Pd-list July 2008

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Creating music notation with GEM
by David Powers 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Hello, I have a question, how hard do you think it would be create a notation engine for GEM? What considerations would go into the design? On the simplest level, I'm imagining doing non-rhythmic notation to display chords and cells for improvisors. Since the number of notes on a chord would be determined on the fly, would it be better to create the max amount of objects and turn off unwanted ones, or better to use dynamic patching? This would simply be to create circles representing noteheads.... Here's my imaginary prototype: [gemhead] | | | [cell G Ab F# F ( or [chords c4 e4 g4 , F#4 G4 B4 ( or [cell 0 4 3 5 2 1 ( | / | / [treble_clef] Anybody have any idea what kind of messages I might send such an object? ~David

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdpedia is back!
by info＠thesaddj.com 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Hi Hans! everything working great also in italian... best Marco ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: Jack <jack(a)rybn.org> To: pd-list(a)iem.at Cc: pd-announce(a)iem.at Subject: Re: [PD-announce] [PD] pdpedia is back! Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:30:22 +0200 > Hola Hans ! > > It seems to work nice for french version. > ++ > > Jack > > > Le 10 juil. 08 à 21:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > > > > > After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is > > back! Please let me know if it isn't working for you: > > > > http://pdpedia.org > > > > .hc > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------ -- > > ---- > > > > "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity > > , but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit > > those who profit from scarcity." -John Gilmore > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-announce mailing list > > Pd-announce(a)iem.at > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-announce mailing list > Pd-announce(a)iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM
by David Powers 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Okay, I guess I need to check out the pdmtl stuff, I don't have pd2ascii and ascii2pd but it definitely looks useful. (It took me a second to realize you wrote a note explaining where pd2ascii was from, I thought my pd-ext was missing something at first...) In fact, I definitely better revisit both pdmtl and the RTC-lib before I spend hours stupidly reinventing the wheel. One point, you missed the note 'B' on the right hand side of your patch. Anyway thanks, you just allowed me to cross off an item from my todo list! ~David On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Luigi Rensinghoff <luigi.rensinghoff(a)freenet.de> wrote: > Well.. > > not terribly tedious ;-) > > > > > > > Am 17.07.2008 um 21:55 schrieb David Powers: > > I'm wondering if I should use something like PyExt to do some of the > > mapping, as I don't know of any simple way to do hash dictionaries in > > PD itself. As a test last night, I built a simple abstraction to take > > notes C C# D etc. and output pitch numbers 0-11, and i found it quite > > tedius to do compared to a function in code such as (this is in PHP > > because that is what I do all day long at my day job): > > function note2number($note) { > > $num = array ('C'=>0,'C#'=>1,'Db'=>1); > > return $num[$note]; > >>---------------------------------------< > Luigi Rensinghoff > luigi.rensinghoff(a)freenet.de > skype:gigischinke > ichat:gigicarlo > > > > >

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Re: [PD] How to read .mid files
by Spencer Russell 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:26:28 +0200 > From: Costis Benardis <c.benardis(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: [PD] How to read .mid files > > Hi > > I have a simple (i hope) question. How can i read a midi file stored in my hd. What i want to do is to read data from a .mid file and write them in a table. > > Thanks > If you don't mind a little compilation, I wrote an object called midiopen that opens a midi file and dumps the data to its outlet. Check out the SVN repo with svn checkout http://pdhmm.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ pdhmm if you're on linux you should be able to compile it just by typing "scons" it's still pretty preliminary, but it should work on most midi files that don't have any SysEx messages in them. One of these days I'll clean it up and perhaps add it to pd-extended. -spencer

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How to read .mid files
by Costis Benardis 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

Hi I have a simple (i hope) question. How can i read a midi file stored in my hd. What i want to do is to read data from a .mid file and write them in a table. Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=…

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the fastest way to read/write a lot of information from memory/hard disk
by hard off 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

i have a couple of sequencers with 16 steps and about 5 parameters for each step , and then a bunch of synths and drum machines running. i have always used textfile for saving sequence and control data for such setups, but if i have a hundred patterns or more, it gets really slow. i guess its something to do with the way textfile accesses the hard disk. it's just not very efficient for large amounts of data. what are my other options?

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Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
by Dafydd Hughes 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

Hey folks Just in case there are Pd users hanging about in or around Toronto that I'm not in regular contact with who don't have anything to do next Thursday night. This is bound to be loads of fun. All the participants are really cool and funny people. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Anything you can do (in Max), I can do better (in PD) Date: Thursday, July 24, 8pm onwards Cost: Free! Yes, FREE. No need to register- come one, come all! With Celebrity Guest Host Misha Glouberman Competitors: Frank Tsonis vs. Dafydd Hughes and David McCallum Come take sides in this fight to the death between those open-source PD Commies and the right-wing, proprietary, puppy-hating MAX/MSPers. There has been a long and bloody rivalry between those who would make new media art with Pure Data, a free, open source graphical programming language, and proponents of MAX/MSP, Pd's slick, commercial half-brother. We intend to open these old wounds, pour salt, beer and whatever else we can find into them, push both programs and programmers to the brink of collapse and determine once and for all which is better. Join host Misha Glouberman as he leads our contestants through a series of increasingly difficult challenges with play-by-play commentary by Nicholas Stedman and game show music with Graham Collins. Watch as Frank Tsonis (team MAX) and David McCallum and Dafydd Hughes (team Pd) try to come up with the fastest, sexiest and most effective solutions, all the while fighting against each other, the clock, and the inevitable nerds who think they can do it better. If you have experience with either of these programs (or if you don't) and you think you can do better than our resident gurus, or even if you just want to play along, feel free to bring a laptop, work on the challenges, aid or abuse our contestants or just check your email. The popcorn's on us; it's free to watch, participate, heckle, throw fruit, and bet on who's gonna get an ass-beating. Information and downloads: Pure Data: http://puredata.info/ MAX: http://www.cycling74.com/products/max5 Interaccess Electronic Media Arts Centre: http://interaccess.org/ 9 Ossington Ave, Toronto ON Canada Facebook event is here: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=19191668235 ----------------------------------------------------------------- cheers dafydd -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass

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vst~ again Status and Questions
by Luigi Rensinghoff 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

Hi List.... What about the infamous vst~ object ?? I am trying it on XP now...installed pd-extended 0.39.3 and there is no help file ??? Ok...i took it from somewhere else and i can load the plugins .. just fine But i cant get the edit window to work (on XP) is it supposed to work ?? And on Mac ? is somebody on a version with Edit-window ?? Thanks Luigi >---------------------------------------< Luigi Rensinghoff luigi.rensinghoff(a)freenet.de skype:gigischinke ichat:gigicarlo

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Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
by Dafydd Hughes 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

You're the second person who's mentioned video or streaming. There's a pretty good chance we'll record it - streaming is less likely. I'll make sure I post links to whatever video we make. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:50 PM, PSPunch <shima(a)pspunch.com> wrote: > > Hi there. > > Sounds like a great event you've got going! > I am all excited just imagining all the joy that may be there. > > Do you by any chance have plans to shoot video recordings and posting them > to hint us how it turns out? > > Just thought I'd ask in case no one in your crew had considered it.. > > > Regards, > -- > David Shimamoto > > >> Hey folks >> >> Just in case there are Pd users hanging about in or around Toronto >> that I'm not in regular contact with who don't have anything to do >> next Thursday night. This is bound to be loads of fun. All the >> participants are really cool and funny people. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> Anything you can do (in Max), I can do better (in PD) >> Date: Thursday, July 24, 8pm onwards >> Cost: Free! Yes, FREE. >> No need to register- come one, come all! >> With Celebrity Guest Host Misha Glouberman >> Competitors: Frank Tsonis vs. Dafydd Hughes and David McCallum >> >> Come take sides in this fight to the death between those open-source >> PD Commies and the right-wing, proprietary, puppy-hating MAX/MSPers. >> >> There has been a long and bloody rivalry between those who would make >> new media art with Pure Data, a free, open source graphical >> programming language, and proponents of MAX/MSP, Pd's slick, >> commercial half-brother. We intend to open these old wounds, pour >> salt, beer and whatever else we can find into them, push both programs >> and programmers to the brink of collapse and determine once and for >> all which is better. >> >> Join host Misha Glouberman as he leads our contestants through a >> series of increasingly difficult challenges with play-by-play >> commentary by Nicholas Stedman and game show music with Graham >> Collins. Watch as Frank Tsonis (team MAX) and David McCallum and >> Dafydd Hughes (team Pd) try to come up with the fastest, sexiest and >> most effective solutions, all the while fighting against each other, >> the clock, and the inevitable nerds who think they can do it better. >> >> If you have experience with either of these programs (or if you don't) >> and you think you can do better than our resident gurus, or even if >> you just want to play along, feel free to bring a laptop, work on the >> challenges, aid or abuse our contestants or just check your email. The >> popcorn's on us; it's free to watch, participate, heckle, throw fruit, >> and bet on who's gonna get an ass-beating. >> >> Information and downloads: >> >> Pure Data: http://puredata.info/ >> MAX: http://www.cycling74.com/products/max5 >> >> Interaccess Electronic Media Arts Centre: http://interaccess.org/ >> 9 Ossington Ave, Toronto ON Canada >> Facebook event is here: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=19191668235 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> cheers >> dafydd >> > > -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass

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Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
by Dafydd Hughes 17 Jul '08

17 Jul '08

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)artengine.ca> wrote: > > So, how is the Pd community in Toronto nowadays? Ask me again next Friday. -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass

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