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Lua and PD : couldn't create
by Jack 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Hello Claude, I have installed today lua with Pd on MacOSX.4.11 and all is OK (I just change 'wget' to 'curl -O' in the 'Makefile.static' because i use curl). The patch 'lua-help.pd' works fine, when I click on the message [load hello.lua(, i get from the console : 'Hello, you!'. The object [hello] works fine : when i put it in a new patch i get : 'Hello, world!' and when i close the patch or remove this object i get : 'Bye bye, world!'. Now my problem : i have duplicated the file 'hello.pd_lua' in the 'lua' folder and renamed it 'testjack.pd_lua'. Now, when i restart Pd and create a new patch and put a new object [testjack], after 10 seconds Pd output : error: maximum object loading depth 1000 reached testjack ... couldn't create Any idea about this problem. Thanx. ++ Jack

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Re: [PD] OS X PD-Extended - help-path question
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

FYI: I'm cc'ing the list since I think this could be of general interest. Keep watch on the disappearing plist. That would be an annoying bug if something was causing the internal default plist to be deleted. .hc On Jul 20, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: > Hi Hans Christoph > > Thanks, for some reason the default plist file was destroyed or > disappeared.I recovered it and everything worked fine again... > > I am having problems with GOP-Abstractions, sometimes the "parent > window" disappeares when updating or changing an abstraction. > > It only comes back when i press "Quit" Application and then it > reappeares. Also the consisteny check fails in that case.. > > But i will start a new thread, when i made a samplepatch subpatch > combination to demonstrate it... > > Anyway thanks.. > > Bye Luigi > > > Am 20.07.2008 um 19:04 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: > >> >> If you put the help files in the same folder as the abstractions, >> then you don't need to set anything. It'll find them automatically. >> >> .hc >> >> On Jul 19, 2008, at 6:03 AM, Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: >> >>> Hi List >>> >>> A Little question about the helppath-startup flag... >>> >>> I am using Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20080622 on OSX Macbook/Intel >>> >>> The lib/path definitions finally work fine, but i wonder where i >>> have to put an additional -helppath folder. >>> >>> I made a patch where all the "mapping" - objects are collected, >>> just to have an overview. And if i right click the objects i want >>> the helpfile to open. >>> >>> But instead the abstractions open. Even though the help files are >>> in the help-browser in the subfolder 5.reference/mapping. >>> >>> >>> What should i do ?? >>> >>> 1) Include the startup flag -helppath ... bla bla ? There i dont >>> know if on apple the path has to be in " "'s" >>> >>> 2) Add a new path ? So it doesnt make a difference if is "path" >>> or "helppath" ?? >>> >>> 3) Modify the puredata.org.plist file ?? >>> >>> 4) Go back to use a .pdrc-file ?? >>> >>> >>> Thanks... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >---------------------------------------< >>> >>> Luigi Rensinghoff >>> luigi.rensinghoff(a)freenet.de >>> skype:gigischinke >>> ichat:gigicarlo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------- >> >> As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should >> be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of >> ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - >> Benjamin Franklin >> >> > > >---------------------------------------< > > Luigi Rensinghoff > luigi.rensinghoff(a)freenet.de > skype:gigischinke > ichat:gigicarlo > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. - David Zicarelli

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Re: [PD] [nosleep] WAS: how to avoid (most/many/some) readsf~ dropouts
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

On Jul 20, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> If you only use / as a char in the first position and only allow >> one / for a separator, like [/] or [math//], then it is doable, >> and that covers basically all of the cases that we need it for. > > so, is [/~] a way to say [~] in the root namespace, or [~] in the > root directory, or [/~] in the default namespace? "/" is only a separator, just like Python's or Java's "." therefore [/ ~] is unambiguous. .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste

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installing flext in pd-extended
by Atte André Jensen 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Hi I installed pd-extended from Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080628-ubuntu-gutsy-i386.deb and now I need to compile pool, which means I need to install flext. I tried to compile flext, but it seems it needs the source of pd, which is not provided by pd-extended.deb. Does this really mean I have to install everything by hand? If so, is there an easy way to something similar to pd-extended (including the source) up and running in one go? -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk

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[OT] Ubuntu Studio and other media-related distros
by Derek Holzer 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Hey gang, In a search for distraction from the project I'm really supposed to be working on, I decided to update my (until now stable but very outdated) Gentoo media editing machine. A couple days of circular package blocks, missing dependencies and vanishing libraries later, I'm really curious why I once decided it was a good idea to compile everything myself ;-) (Note to Gentooers: "emerge --update --deep world" once a month, or get the thing stable and never touch it again! If you wait too long, and your current packages go out of Portage, it can be hellish!). So if and when this machine is hosed, what would be a good distro to put on it? I don't feel much like the super-hacker I was a four or five years ago when I got into Gentoo, but I like a distro that I can configure to be extremely minimal and transparent. And what is absolutely necessary is that it has well-configured versions of all the audio softs that I depend on, such as Ardour (w/ VST support!), Jamin, LADSPAs, JACK, etc. Realtime/prempt kernel = A-OK. Ability to use PD-Extended is of course a plus, and also the ability to mount HFS+ drives without destroying them (as Ubuntu has done to me in the past) is also necessary. I looked at Ubuntu Studio, but I wanted to ask who actually uses it. From the page it seems like maybe it's not well-maintained, and that's another requirement for me after messing around with different audio-related overlays for Portage that eventually get abandoned. If Ubuntu Studio isn't the right one, can anyone suggest another option? My last criteria is that it has a coherent user community and excellent docs (strongest point of Gentoo, and from what I recall a weak point of straight Debian, IMHO). thx + best! D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 84: "How would you have done it?"

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Help on installing pd-extended in ubuntu 7.10 AMD64 x2
by bernardo amorim 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Hello everyone canyou help me with this. I want to install a puredata-extended in my amd64 x2 that has ubuntu 7.10 64bits install in server mode with kde desktop on it. i allready installid it with getlibs and forcearchitecture and so on ..SO please can you post a simple tutorial for me?? i get a lot of erros while loading all the extendions of pd: input channels = 0, output channels = 0 opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s). input channels = 0, output channels = 0 tried ./libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /home/lawnmover/pd-externals/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib64/pd/extra/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/cxc/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/tcl8.4/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/jmmmp/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/sigpack/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/creb/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/cyclone/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/iemlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/list-abs/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/mapping/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/markex/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/mjlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/maxlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/memento/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/flatspace/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/motex/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pddp/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdogg/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pixeltango/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/rradical/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/smlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/toxy/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/pan/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/hcs/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/jmmmp/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/zexy/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ekext/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/toxy/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cxc/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/iemlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/list-abs/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mapping/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/markex/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/maxlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mjlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pan/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/memento/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/motex/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/oscx/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/pddp/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/pdogg/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/pixeltango/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/rradical/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/unauthorized/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/sigpack/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/smlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/unauthorized/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/freeverb/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/ext13/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/ggee/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/flib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ext13/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/ekext/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib32/pd/extra/hcs/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried ./libdir.pd_linux and failed blablabla thnaks bernardo -- Raging_Synth Bernardo Gomes de Amorim - 2007 Confidencialidade de Correio electrónico Este email destina-se exclusivamente à(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigido e não deverá em caso algum ser reencaminhado ou reutilizado para nenhum fim a não ser aquele para o qual foi criado. Aplicável tambem aos attachments.

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[residency_buffer~] missing from fftease lib
by Si Mills 21 Jul '08

21 Jul '08

Hi Does anyone know the whereabouts of this, or if at all it was ported to Pd? Its in the objects list, but doesn't appear to be in the download for Pd. I know it references (max)msp buffers, but would i be a lot of effort to switch that to pd's tables? This one would be very handy many thanks

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background color of instances of abstraction
by Atte André Jensen 20 Jul '08

20 Jul '08

Hi Is it possible (for reasons of visual feedback) to change the background color of one instance of an abstraction? It's an abstraction where only one instance is active at the time, so I'd like to change the background color of the active one. Is obviously should be done programatically from pd... -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk

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Re: [PD] honk -- update
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 19 Jul '08

19 Jul '08

I am cc'ing the list since I think this is of general interest: The best thing to do would be to make them into a libdir, then users can install them by copying them into the externals folders: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help- files-with-pd-extended Basically, create a folder that is named exactly like your library, i.e. 'honk'. Then copy all of the abstractions and help patches into that folder. Then create a 'meta' Pd patch in that folder with the library name, i.e. honk/honk-meta.pd. In that patch you can put info about the library, like the author, copyright, etc. Then to install, users just have to drop that folder into one of the folders listed in that FAQ entry. They'll be able to do [honk/ myobject] as well as [import honk] then [myobject]. .hc On Jul 19, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Johannes Kreidler wrote: > hi hans-christoph, > now i wanted to have included my "honk"-abstractions in pd- > extended, but how does it work? i'm not pretty familiar with the pd- > list. > or can i just give it to you (attached)? > > greets, > johannes > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> On Jan 4, 2008, at 5:13 AM, Johannes Kreidler wrote: >>> hi list, >>> thank you for advices and bug reports. i fixed some things, >>> added another abstractions und help-files. >>> >>> here are the honk abstractions: >>> >>> http://www.kreidler-net.de/honk.html >>> >>> >>> hans-christoph, can it be included in pd-extended? >> Sure, someone just needs to import them to CVS (soon to be SVN) >> and then add them to the build system. If you plan on >> maintaining these, then it would be best if you put them there >> yourself. Just submit a developer CVS request to pd-dev if you >> want commit access. >> .hc >>> >>> greets, >>> johannes >>> >>> >>> honk abstractions >>> >>> collection of abstractions for pd (requires at least pd-extended >>> 0.39) >>> >>> >>> download: http://www.kreidler-net.de/honk.zip >>> >>> >>> >>> help-files are in the same folder, but also included inside the >>> absctractions themselves. >>> >>> >>> ----GLUE---- >>> >>> linvert - inverts order of atoms of a list >>> listerize-fifo - like "serialize" but for symbols, turns a >>> list of symbols into a list, in order: first in first out >>> listerize-lifo - like "serialize" but for symbols, turns a >>> list of symbols into a list, in order: last in first out >>> mergerize-fifo - turns a stream of symbols into one symbol, >>> in order: first in first out >>> mergerize-lifo - turns a stream of symbols into one symbol, >>> in order: last in first out >>> nbangs - sequence incoming bangs >>> prae - glues a praefix and an input together to one list >>> schange - like "change" but for symbols, outputs its input >>> only when it changes >>> serialize-fifo - like "serialize" but for any number of >>> floats. turns a list of floats into a list, in order: first in >>> first out >>> serialize-lifo - like "serialize" but for any number of >>> floats. turns a list of floats into a list, in order: last in >>> first out >>> >>> ----TIME---- >>> malibu - counts in a certain speed >>> zetro - random metronome >>> >>> >>> ----MATH---- >>> >>> noreprand - (almost) exactly like "random", but without >>> repetitions. outputs random numbers in given range. >>> rondom - like "random" but with offset as argument >>> >>> ----TABLES---- >>> >>> ntables - creates a certain number of tables in subpatch >>> >>> >>> ----GUI----- >>> >>> bak - like bang, but size can be given by argument >>> dac - comfortable control of audio output >>> display - displays a number or symbol in variable size >>> hamp - comfortable horizontal potentiometer >>> hr - like horizontal radio, but number of buttons can be >>> given by argument >>> gop - comfortable graph-on-parent control >>> hs - horizontal slider with range as arguments >>> sf - soundfile-player for different formats (wav, mp3, ogg) >>> tok - like toggle, but size can be given by argument >>> vamp - comfortable vertical potentiometer >>> vr - like vertical radio, but number of buttons can be >>> given by argument >>> vs - vertical slider with range as arguments >>> vum - quick-to-build VU-Meter >>> >>> >>> ----MISC---- >>> >>> >>> klist - text-based sequencer with absolute time destinations >>> midi2symbol - MIDI tone numbers to german tone name conversion >>> >>> >>> ----AUDIO GLUE---- >>> >>> compress~ - every amplitude that lies under a certain >>> threshold will be amplified to a reference amplitude >>> limit~ - every amplitude that lies over a certain >>> threshold will be dampened to a reference amplitude >>> pitchshift~ - granular transposition >>> >>> >>> ----AUDIO OSCILLATORS---- >>> >>> sinesum~ - oscillator with various partials >>> waveform~ - waveform oscillator (sine/saw/triangle/square/ >>> pulse/ random) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! >>> Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- ---- >> http://at.or.at/hans/ >> <honk.zip> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White

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new luagl
by marius schebella 19 Jul '08

19 Jul '08

hi, here's the code that I am trying to run: require 'luagl' local testgl1 = pd.Class:new():register("testgl1") function testgl1:initialize(name, atoms) self.inlets = 2 self.max = 1 pd.post(tostring(self)) return true end function testgl1:in_1(sel, atoms) if sel == "gem_state" then testgl1:render(self) end end function testgl1:in_2_float(f) self.max = math.abs(f) pd.post(self.max) end function testgl1:render(myself) max = math.max(myself.max, 1) glBegin(GL_LINE_LOOP) for i=1,max do r = math.random() g = math.random() b = math.random() glColor3d(r, g, b) glVertex2d(math.random(-400,400)/100, math.random(-400,400)/100) end glEnd() end here's the console printout: error: lua: error in dispatcher: [string "testgl1"]:25: attempt to call global 'glBegin' (a nil value) I think this code was running in lua0.3.. thanks, marius.

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