Pd-list February 2008

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Re: [PD] [OT] mini-ITX again (Derek Holzer)
by Ingo Scherzinger 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hi Derek, we are doining a project with mini itx boards here. I have had very bad experience with different VIA chipset boards (computer noise in the audio path) so we went for the Intel D201GLY or D201GLY2 (fanless - needs extra cooling) with a Midiman Audiophile 24/96. It needs a BIOS update to run with the Midiman card, however. CPU is 1,4 GHz Celeron. Very clean audio running on a buffer of 64 or 128 samples. The board has a SIS chipset which really surprised me to work but it actually did! It also has a better a better performance that VIA boards at the same CPU speed. On top of it it is the cheapest mini itx board at all. Ingo

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Re: [PD] Midifile Object
by saint 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

ah cheers thanks a million martin, you're a lifesaver! am looking forward to getting stuck into your external properly now! thanks, john. ----- Original Message ---- > From: Martin Peach <martin.peach(a)sympatico.ca> > To: saint <saintidle(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Sent: Tuesday, 19 February, 2008 2:09:05 PM > Subject: Re: [PD] Midifile Object > > It's fixed now in svn and works as advertised (opens files in patcher > directory unless absolute path given). > You can get source code and a compiled dll from > http://puredata.info/Members/martinrp/ > > Martin > > saint wrote: > > hi martin/all, > > > > sorry for buggin you about this again, but unfortunately i can't use your (or > any) midi external > > for my purpose if i can't get this to work. > > > > the problem i'm having with midifile is this: i can't get midifile to read a > .mid file that's in the > > same folder as the pd patch by referring to it by it's short name only > > i.e. without the full path c:/progra~1/etc/etc (which does work btw, thanks) > > > > is there anyway to get this... > > > > [read test.mid( > > | > > [midifile] > > > > ...to work?! > > > > (where the midi file and pd patch are in the same folder of course) > > > > basically i need to copy multiple instances of the patch and run it from lots > of different folders > > each referring to different midi files > > > > again thanks a million in advance you've been more than helpful so far! > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Martin Peach > > To: saintidle(a)yahoo.com; pd-list(a)iem.at > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 February, 2008 8:53:59 PM > > Subject: Re: [PD] Phasor Driven Midi File Playback? > > > > The latest versions are part of pd-extended in > > http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/ but the last functional WinXp > > version is in late 2007. The spaces in path names cause trouble throughout > > pd and other "cross-platform" programs, the only workaround I know of is to > > rename your directories without spaces. I usually use underscores instead. > > "Program Files" always causes trouble. Sometimes you can access it using > > something like C:\PROGRA~1 (the short DOS name) > > This works on my system: > > > > [read C:/PROGRA~1/pd/doc/5.reference/textfile.txt( > > > > but > > > > [C:/PROGRA~1/pd/doc/5.reference/textfile.txt( > > | > > [read $1( > > > > does not work. > > > > Martin > > > > > >> From: saint > >> To: pd-list(a)iem.at > >> Subject: Re: [PD] Phasor Driven Midi File Playback? > >> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:39:53 -0800 (PST) > >> > >> hmmm. i did try that but it seems to stumble at the first space in the full > >> path (as pure data does) > >> > >> unfortunately the patch will need to be ported around when it's done so > >> specifying a full path won't fulfill my needs. > >> > >> is there a .dll of the midifile external for w32 knocking around for which > >> this read message works for shortened paths? > >> > >> > >> > >> again, thanks all of you for your time! > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Mike McGonagle > >> To: saint > >> Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February, 2008 7:22:29 PM > >> Subject: Re: [PD] Phasor Driven Midi File Playback? > >> > >> I think what is happening is that [midifile] is expecting a full path for > >> the file name when using read. This is why it works for the [openpanel] > >> because it returns a complete path. Did you try using the full path with > >> [read $1(? > >> > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> > >> On Feb 12, 2008 12:33 PM, saint wrote: > >> > >> thanks for the quick reply again martin, > >> > >> it's a strange problem that i seem to be having. > >> > >> because i definitely have all the midifiles in the same folder as the patch > >> but > >> > >> [midifile test.mid] > >> ...or... > >> [read test.mid(---[midifile] > >> gives... 'error: midifile: unable to open test.mid' > >> > >> > >> but when i do > >> [bang]---[openpanel]---[read $1(---[midifile] > >> and point it to 'test.mid' it seems to work? > >> > >> hmmmm... > >> unfortunately for what i want to do i need to be able to automate opening > >> different midifiles. > >> > >> i'm using your zip from > >> http://puredata.info/Members/martinrp/midifile/midifile.zip/view > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > > > __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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[PD-announce] New solar / magnetic sound art on You Tube
by joe banks 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strange Attractor vs Disinformation "Circuit Blasting" + "National Grid" Wed 5 March 7.30pm £5 Life Theatre Centre For Life Times Square Newcastle upon Tyne http://www.life.org.uk/contact/ + Shunt Vaults, London Bridge, 4 + 5 June 2008, details TBC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope you enjoy :) 1. Disinformation "Stargate" sound installation Solar noise recordings on Ash International 1996 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytkRng7GZKk 2. Disinformation "Ghost Shells" sound installation VLF radio noise from geomagnetic whistlers 1996 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZQXMfcl-M 3. Disinformation "Angel" video installation Based on the "Antiphony" CD artwork 1997 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wST0Wd8JEs 4. Disinformation "London Underground" 2002 Based on an idea published on the R&D2 CD in 1997 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSGNRiU1bfo 5. Disinformation vs Semiconductor + text Sunspots, Solar Flares and Coronal Mass Ejections http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HEoLm7Zhgs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies for any cross postings... __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[Fwd: Re: [OT] mini-ITX again]
by olme 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

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pix_crop arguments
by marius schebella 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

hi, the pix_crop help file says pix_crop does not take arguments, but actually it does, the only problem is that the order is switched. the four inlets are size_x, size_y, x_off, y_off but the arguments have to be given as x_off, y_off, size_x, size_y I guess it is not possible to change that because of backwards compatibility issues, although it is not documented, so people maybe don't know at all?? marius.

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[PD-announce] cat `hello process` > /dev/Workshop+Openlab+Lecture - March 2008 Groningen - NL
by propaganda＠goto10.org 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

sorry for >< please >> -- `hello process` -- Workshop `hello process` 5-6-7 March 2008 10:00 - 13:00 and 14:00 - 17:00 Sign, Winschoterkade 10, Groningen, NL Booking: signnl -at- gmail -dot- com Costs: Free! Max: 12 participants Level: Beginner Chaos theory, finite state machines, randomness, entropy, non linear systems and non deterministic automata, l-systems, self-similar series, recursions and iterations. WTF? LOLZ During this 3 day workshop, the participants will be introduced to dataflow programming, simple Digital Signal Processing, generative and algorithmic techniques that they will be able to apply in any other field once the course is completed. The goal of the workshop is not to learn a new software, but to get acquainted with certain techniques and strategies for the creation of a media art work or design. The software Pure Data will be used to illustrate most of the different techniques, but the emphasis will be put on introducing and explaining the generative processes so the participant can understand them and will be able to implement these techniques in his/her work. The participants who are interested in learning more about the software used in the workshop, can come to the Openlab sessions following the workshop. The workshop is based on 100% Free/Libre/Open Source Software. All the material used during the workshop will be available on-line under an open content license. During the workshop we’ll work with the pure:dyne GNU/Linux operating system. No previous knowledge of programming is required, but knowing how to use computers is :) more information: http://metabiosis.goto10.org/2008/02/26/workshop-hello-process/ http://puredata.info -- Openlab Groningen Kickstart 11, 13, 18, 20, 25 and 27 March 2008 between 14.00 and 18.00 Sign, Winschoterkade 10, Groningen Costs: Free! Join us for 6 afternoon sessions of Openlab Groningen! The Openlab is a workspace equipped with 6 workstations running a wide variety of open source software for artists and designers. The goal of the lab is to kick start a community in Groningen that brings together local artists/designers/programmers that work with or are interested to work with open source software. The lab in Groningen will kick off with the 3 day workshop 'hello process'. After the workshop the lab will be open for 3 weeks on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 14.00 until 18.00. The lab is open to everyone interested in making, researching, exchanging, learning or simply working, having a (lot of) coffee and a chat. Permanent inhabitants of the lab: 'hello process' artists Aymeric Mansoux and Marloes de Valk from digital art collective GOTO10 (bring cookies plz). Openlab Groningen will be the third European Openlab. The first Openlab started 3 years ago in London. The lab organises performances, exhibitions and meetings. The project stimulates the use of open source software through the organisation of events. The second lab in existence is Openlab Glasgow. It started a year ago, and is a collective that is open to artists who are interested in the use of technology within their arts practice. The group is based on the sharing and exchange of skills, collaborative projects and the exchange of ideas. more info: http://metabiosis.goto10.org http://www.pawfal.org/openlab http://www.openlabglasgow.org -- `hello process` lectures: in rand() we trust! 13 March 2008, 20.00 - 22.30 Sign, Winschoterkade 10, Groningen Guests: Florian Cramer, Dave Griffiths, Arie Altena, Adger Stokvisch, Aymeric Mansoux, and Marloes de Valk Costs: Free! During this evening we will be questioning the nature and purpose of generative art. With 4 lectures and an open talk, we investigate whether or not generative art is indeed an art form or just a technique. Is it possible to make a distinction between generative processes, applications of generative processes and generative processes as a conceptual ground for software art? Does the term generative art apply to screen savers, alife, fractal art,, conceptual software/code art and poetry alike? Is it even important to make this distinction? The term generative art has been around for a while now, and is applied to extremely diverse works and opposite artistic approaches. No more! It's time to fork! (again!) more info: http://metabiosis.goto10.org/2008/02/27/in-rand-we-trust/ http://cramer.plaintext.cc:70/ http://www.pawfal.org/dave/ http://ariealt.net/blog/ http://www.adgerstokvisch.nl/ http://320x200.goto10.org http://no.systmz.goto10.org -- :* http://goto10.org _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Summer of Code 2008
by Martin Eckart 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Since I missed the Google Summer of Code boat last year I decided to search a bit and see what's up for this year... Turns out it was just announced today! http://code.google.com/soc/2008 Any ideas on whether pd (iem) will include projects as a mentoring organization this year? I'd be really interested in applying as a student. -martin

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Re: [PD] synchronised video outputs
by enrique franco 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

Hi Simon, Where Can we see the video patches you talk about? I´m very interested. Thanks, Enrique On 25 Feb 2008, at 10:32 PM, altern wrote: > >>> I need to have several video outputs that run in sync. A friend who >>> works in a art exhibition space told me there would be couple of >>> solutions for this but both involve buying pretty expensive >>> equipment >>> like special DVD players. >>> >>> I thought then that a solution for this issue could be to have >>> several >>> computers on a local network playing video (with GEM) and >>> synchronise >>> them via OSC. But I dont have any experience doing such a thing, >>> never >>> used OSC for anything similar. Also I dont have a clue about how to >>> synchronise together videos. >>> >>> Has anyone done anything similar? any experiences to share? >> >> yes. >> we used a dual-head machine (actually it was a quad-head, so we had >> plenty of space for editing...) running a single gemwin covering both >> screens and 2 [pix_film]s that were controlled by the same counter. >> >> since Gem allows you frame-accurate access, the 2 videos were in >> perfect >> synch. > > but we might need up to 6 to 8 video outputs, thats too much for the > same machine. Thats why I thought about having a machine per video > output connected to a LAN and synchronised via OSC. I've done it often, the basic principle for keeping the LAN machines in constant frame sync, allowing scrubbing etc, is each projector has a slave patch that uses [pix_film] to play by frame number rather auto, and receives those frame numbers (via [netreceive]) from a master patch which has a metro counting the frames and which plays any sound required. Works very cleanly and doesn't put much data through the network. Two [pix_film] Gem-chains in each slave will give you X-fades etc. I could post the set of patches which add quite a bit more functionality than that if you like, I've built up a collection over several projects. simon -- Enrique Franco Telefono/Phone: +572 5552334 ext 388 Webpage: http://richie.idc.ul.ie/~enrique/ http://www.iua.upf.es/~ffranco/pfm.htm

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vbap on Pd-extended (osx)
by potax flan 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

howdy, i can't seem to load "rvbap-demo.pd" without getting errors (see below) i'm on Pd-0.40.3-extended (20080117), and running osx 10.5.2 on intel help? define_loudspeakers 3 -45 0 45 0 0 45 180 45 ... couldn't create define_loudspeakers 2 -45 45 135 -135 ... couldn't create mtx 8 3 ... couldn't create mtx_*~ 8 3 20 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create rvbap 0 0 ... couldn't create error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored) error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored) error: signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)

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load abbreviated objects
by marius schebella 25 Feb '08

25 Feb '08

hi, what is the problem that (in pd-extended) abbreviated object classes like mtx_+ cannot be instantiated, I have to create mtx_add before. I think this is a known problem, but is there a solution to fix this? also, some of the objects can't be created, but I am not sure why for example mtx_add is one of these. is there a nameclash so that iemmatrix is not loaded by default? mtx_div seems to be an extra problem (can't be loaded). dumpOSC xx is another object that will not be created only with oscx/dumpOSC xx. what's the rule behind that? hans, do you want bugreports for that kind of stuff? are you planning to fix this at all or wait for 0.41? marius.

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