Pd-list March 2007

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problems with installing pd extended test5(after running extented test7 )
by "Marco Döttlinger" 09 Mar '07

09 Mar '07

i worked with extented test 5 without any problems for some time but after i have tried extented test 7 i was not able to run pd ext. test 5 ( iÅ½m working on the latest mac book with intel core duo....) md -- "Feel free" - 5 GB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX ProMail testen: www.gmx.net/de/go/mailfooter/promail-out

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sfplay / playing with soundfile from disk
by moritz 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

eo list im sure this question was asked before, im not a good archive-hunter.. i want to play soundfiles directly from the harddisk, but also sometimes from the middle/anywhere from the soundfile. i found the sfplay from zexy with the message [goto x( , but how precise is that? it tells me i can play from a byte n, but i'm always confuse what means bytes related to samples with a samplingrate 44100? ok, i want to can play soundfiles precise started from any chosen sample.. any other suggestions than sfplay and goto? is reading sounds from a harddisk more click-free than loading into a table? thanx morritz

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Superdiscounter
by Frank Barknecht 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

Hi, attached is a little toy for the weekend. Oh, it's Tuesday already? Anyway, [superdiscounter] is an irregular metro/counter. It's possible to edit the irregularities graphically using a data structure interface, or supply them as a list. The main use is to try out the Tatum-approach by Jeff Bilmes to foster drum machine expressivity as outlined in Blimes' 1993 ICMC paper: http://ssli.ee.washington.edu/people/bilmes/mypapers/icmc93_paper.pdf or with much more detail in his thesis. No externals required I think, but you need pd-0.40 at least because I'm much too lazy to construct pd-$0-x senders with makefilename as in the old days. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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gem - cube without edges
by Nikola Jeremic 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

Hi list im curently working on a project to design a short logo animation with pd/gem. I have a rotating cube on witch is a texture (logo) with black background. the problem is that i can still see the "edges" of a cube and i would like to remove them. the patch is here if you would like to see it. www.echoplex-label.de/njeremic/tmp/echoplex-logo.zip Some hints? thanx Nikola Jeremic -- www.echoplex-label.de/njeremic

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Re: [PD] puredatabase
by robbert van hulzen 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

No, I didn't forget... But the discussion (eg Pluggo4PD) is getting to a point where I think "wow, interesting!" rather than "I can help here." Here's a few thoughts anyway. More to show what goes on in the mind of someone who's just getting into the construction of the telescope after a bit of star gazing. All this (incl below) said, I'd still love to help out in some way, by eg cleaning up / clarifying help patches, eg with some help from the developer. When first starting to use pd, I attempted to make a manual for myself, starting out with listing all the objects (internals, then) with descriptions. When getting deeper into pd, I abandoned that idea because I preferred to spend my time on learning by doing. Still, a readable list of what-does-what would be welcome, and would have been then. As a sidenote: a glossary of computer related terms would also have been helpful. By now i know what a subroutine is, but a year ago the first sentence of the template1-about.pd (at http://puredata.org/dev/pddp/template1-about.pd/view) would've already puzzled me, just like the term "metadata" does now. I can guess what it means, I can find some info, there's a wiki, but I think when you just get into pd there's a lot to deal with, so you don't necessarily want to get into even more. Mind you: I'm not saying everybody should be able to use pd with no effort. Of course this is an app you must want to use and be willing to dive into, I just mean that sometimes knowledge is taken for granted that not necessarily everyone jumping into pd has. Maybe this is not pd's responsability, I'm just mentioning what was / is troublesome for me. padawan12 <padawan12(a)obiwannabe.co.uk>wrote: > > Yes. At the risk of building a whole content management system (is > puredatabase still built on Zope/Plone?) this seems the sensible format. > At some point I would like to move some tutorials I've made onto the system. > These are mainly HTML with diagrams and links to patches and sounds. A really > thorough system would allow this and make it easy. > > But, from a development POV might I suggest that this is ambitious and one > would be best to concentrate on just getting it to work right with .pd files > to begin with, then add the bells and whistles to allow richer content. But > being mindful of future content types cant hurt. > > One interesting and challenging enough problem that already exists is how to > make sure that help/tutorial/exmaple patches that depend on certain > abstractions and externals will always load. > > This is a dependency issue not dissimilar to the pakage management needed > in something like the Debian apt repository system. It may be possible > to tag each resource with its minimum version and libraries needed, or it > might be better to hold multiple verions of the same resource and be able > to browse by platform and current Pd version. > > The way I see it, Puredatabase is not just there to organise and structure > documentation, it is there to make maintainance as easy as possible. We have > an ongoing struggle to keep helpfiles up to date. One of the views, for > maintainers, should reflect those needs. It should be easy enough to use > so that anyone who spots an error or omission can quickly log in and make > changes Wiki style. > > Hope I'm not just prattling on about issues you've already considered. >

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in Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 msg 'reset' and 'clear' doesn´t work as before
by Jukka Boehm 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

Hello in Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 msg 'reset' and 'clear' doesn´t work as before. error: counter: no method for 'reset' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. error: counter: no method for 'clear' is there a new help-file available? Best Jukka P.S.:Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7-macosx104-i386.dmg

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machine-o-matic (was: kit model)
by robbert van hulzen 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

and yet another great one...! this is fun, i can sit here for hours and annoy my fellow berliner coffeedrinkers with leakage from my headphones ... padawan12 wrote: > And there's a few new sound effects generators here too > http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/news/news.html > The machine-o-matic (with deluxe quadruple action) is a > good laugh if you like making weird machine sounds.

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hot do you get a comma into a symbol?
by Rich E 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

Is it possible to make one symbol that looks like "26,0,0" ? I'd like to be able to do the command: (amixer -c 1 cset numid=5 26,2,32768 ( | shell which would control the hdsp matrix mixer. But the commas make message part before "2", then again on "32768". Any way to get the whole thing in one message? Regards, Rich

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kit model
by padawan12 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

I had a mess about with modelling drums using delay based laminas with feedback and fm to make non linarity. I was inspired by some Eduardo Miranda and Perry Cook work. It's pretty rough, and basically it doesn't really work so well because I found the scalings hard to set up, getting the parameters is fiddly. All the same I thought it worth posting because someone might want to play with it improve it. Changing to lower blocksizes might give a smoother sound for the snare , the controls could be scaled better and the kickdrum needs a phase reset and envelope zero to stop occasional clicks. And plenty more could be done with note velocity parameters. Anyway there's a snare drum that has a separate snare and skin and two exitor sources, a displacement impulse and a rattle from the snare coil. Theres a kick drum that has a beater and skin. For both you can set the pitch (tightness), and diameter, but I left all 3 delay parameters accessible to mess with. Snare skin model has self-feedback. The kick drum there is FM with self feebcak which gives the effect of a loose skin which tightens with the displacement impulse if you get the settings just right. Finally there is an FM hi-hat, which is a bit shit but I am still scratching my head over how to build a model of two cymbals that can rattle against one another, some way to express a symmetrical coupling. Attached is the kit to listen to. And there's a few new sound effects generators here too http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/news/news.html The machine-o-matic (with deluxe quadruple action) is a good laugh if you like making weird machine sounds. best, Andy

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dynamic gui object creation / setting size
by Gernot Tutner 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

hi pd-list! i've encountered the problem while trying to dynamically creating gui objects that i cant set the size of the gui's. i've tried tgl and hradio. OS = windows please help! cheers, gernot #N canvas 138 301 1263 703 10; #X obj 8 7 namecanvas seq; #X obj 101 9 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X msg 101 29 \; seq obj 50 100 tgl 5; #X connect 1 0 2 0;

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