Pd-list December 2007

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Music made with Pd
by Marko Timlin 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

To whom it may concern... January 2007 I played a solo concert at the "le placard headphone festival" in Helsinki. The music was entirely improvised using pure data. The audience in the concert space could only listened to the concert via headphones - which was a very extraordinary experience I have to admit. If you are interested, you are cordially welcome to listen to the two tracks that are now in the net. You can find them under: http://www.timlin.de/music.html Best, Marko

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freeverb~ roomsize / damping not working
by patrick 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

hi, i compiled freeverb~ without any problem, but the controls are not modifying the sound. a theora video of the problem can be seen here: http://www.workinprogress.ca/pd/pdmtl/freeverbbug.ogg (vlc, mplayer etc...). i am on linux / pentium 4. freeverb~ v1.2 pat

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Re: [PD] Music made with Pd
by Marko Timlin 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

Hi Hans, Hi shift8, thanks for the mails. Attached you find the main patch I used for the performance. The basic idea was to create several independent "trigger-delay lines" that create kind of non-quantized polyrhythmical structures. One warning: the patch is incredibly messy, as I never cared to "clean it up" once it worked, and it was designed from the start for controlling it with a UC-33 midi-controller. The UCs' 33 faders and buttons allowed me to "improvise" freely with the patch (that would have been impossible with a single mouse). m.t. cool! i really enjoyed the headphone festival - i participated this year as well in the san francisco session as "lna" (aka low noise amplifire) i performed using only a patch i made in pd and a home-brew 24 element OSC controller. pd patch is 4 instances of one abstraction - a sample-slicer/ playback deally w/ random segment playback, random segment seq gen. it uses a slight adaption i made of 3.phase.vocoder.pd for sample playback and manipulation. i made it mostly during last minute patching sessions in the days b4 (and of :) the show, so it's a bit messy and undocumented. i've attached it to this mail if you want to check it out. load up some samples, increase the volume. play around w/ controls :) if you dig around a little it's not to hard to trace out what the gui elements do. still waiting on the the official archive, as i didn't record my set myself. you can check out an example of a track/performance i created live with it here though: https://admin.vocoid.com/files/active/0/bloerp-retouched.mp3 all samples are snippets of compositions of mine from over the years and some nice archive.org bits. regards, -shift8 On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 22:42 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Some nice textures there, did you post the patches anywhere? > > .hc > > On Dec 1, 2007, at 12:34 PM, Marko Timlin wrote: > > > To whom it may concern... > > January 2007 I played a solo concert at the "le placard headphone > > festival" in Helsinki. The music was entirely improvised using pure > > data. > > The audience in the concert space could only listened to the > > concert via headphones - which was a very extraordinary experience > > I have to admit. > > If you are interested, you are cordially welcome to listen to the > > two tracks that are now in the net. You can find them under: > > http://www.timlin.de/music.html > > > > Best, > > Marko > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- > > All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, > one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better > language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- Mechanize something idiosyncratic. ---------------------------------- cell : 415.828.1625 yahoo : the_shift8 aim : og_shift8

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pd 0.41.0 test07 font size
by cyrille henry 08 Dec '07

08 Dec '07

hello, i'm using latest pd test version on miller website. depending on my screen(s) resolution the size of pd font change a lot. see : http://nusmuk.free.fr/pd_font/ cyrille

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[tabread~~] (again)
by Roman Haefeli 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

hi i wanted to play with [tabread~~] and checked out a fresh zexy and compiled and it went fine. when instantiating [tabread~~], i get an error though: load_object: Symbol "setup_tabread40x7e_tild" not found tabread4~~ ... couldn't create grep -d recurse "setup_tabread40x7e_tild" externals/ showed me only: externals/zexy/src/tabread4~~.c:void setup_tabread40x7e_tilde(void) Binary file externals/zexy/src/tabread4~~.o matches Binary file externals/zexy/src/tabread4~~.pd_linux matches note the 'e' at the end of "void setup_tabread40x7e_tilde(void)" while pd says: Symbol "setup_tabread40x7e_tild" not found (without 'e'). i don't get it. help appreciated. roman ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de

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very slow metro?
by Oded Ben-Tal 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

Is there a downside to using a very slow metro object e.g. [metro 1000000] ? (in terms of cpu or memory usage). I am looking for the best way to get pd to do something every 15 or 30 minutes. thanks Oded -- ___________________________________________________ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded oded(a)ccrma.stanford.edu

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metastudio 0.2 released
by Ed Kelly 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

Hi all, Metastudio v0.2 is released. Some bugfixes (e.g. the sequencers now copies the current pattern properly when "new" is banged) and some improvements - the demoresynthfx patch contains an explaination of some machines, and a new effect - tabmask~ - an FFT phaser. get it here: http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata/metastudio-v0.2.zip read about it here: http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata enjoy ;-D Ed Lone Shark "Aviation" out now on http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com http://www.myspace.com/sharktracks __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [PD] segmented patchcords (was Re: PD & MAX)
by Daniel Wilcox 07 Dec '07

07 Dec '07

Now there's an idea! If some donations could be had to offer up bounty money, I'd say a few more of us would be inclined to pitch in. Also, has pd been in the Goggle Summer of Code? ... I'm unfamiliar with the dev setup but have there been any "coding camps" where people get together to just implement something, just do it for like a weekend? It is always nice to tackle a problem with someone to bounce ideas off of in person. Couchsurfing.com, an online lend-your-couch travel networking collective, has a week long code session every 6 months I believe. Of course the participants get a free place to stay, etc but I don't see how something like that couldn't be sponsored for pd. Personally, I'd like to jump into some pd dev but I am no so sure where to start where it would be most effective (other then segmented patch cords :P). >>i read your mail as a pledge for a bounty system - is that right? >>Am 06.12.2007 um 20:08 schrieb Kyle Klipowicz: > And this is precisely the unfortunate reason why the open source world > will (almost) always lag behind the commercial world of consumer > software. When developers make their bread and butter based upon if > the consumer buys, they're more likely to pay attention to and > implement the wishes of their users. Take Ableton. They actively parse > their online forums for feature requests...and then implement them > when a critical mass is reached. > > There are some exceptions in the FOSS world. Ubuntu is quite user > friendly (with the support of a large endowment from a very wealthy > organization with a charter specifically devoted to bringing Linux to > the non-programmer set of the world). Firefox is giving IE a run for > it's money (although the primary codebase from FF comes from the old > commercial, closed source Netscape). > > I know that Hans' statement re everyone becoming a developer is true > in theory, but in reality people who want to rapidly prototype a > project with something like Pd or Max are using these applications > precisely because they do not want to code in C. > > After reading Marius' post re GEM vs. Jitter, it is painfully apparent > that the capitalist/consumer model of software engineering has a few > aspects to it that are difficult for the FOSS community to compete > with. Namely monetary and human resources and the external pressure to > meet the requests of the user in order to ensure a continuous flow of > financial support. When you code for a hobby or yourself, it is > difficult or even impossible to be bothered with these things, and > rightly so. Without compensation, there's often little scope (or time) > outside one's own projects for developers in the FOSS world. This is > unfortunate, but as I see it, true. > > Question is, what can be done to change this or compete? Or should Pd > just become the thing that hobbyist programmers use, while Max takes > the stage as the "serious" tool for rapidly prototyping interactive > A/V artworks? I hope that this is not the case... > > No flames meant in this mail, just compassionate thought-mulling. > > ~Kyle > > > On Dec 6, 2007 1:21 AM, Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote: > >> That's exactly the point: From this thread it seems that many of >> those >> people who would be able to implement segmented patchcords aren't >> interested in that feature. (You'd be one of the exceptions.) So >> until >> someone comes along who wants seg-cords in Pd and at the same time >> could write the code, the feature stays missing. That's not unusual >> wiht open source software: features, the developers need, get >> implemented faster, others maybe never. > > -- > ----- > ------------ > ---- ----- > ---- -------- - ------ > http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com > http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ PD-list mailing list PD-list(a)iem.at to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Dan Wilcox danomatika www.robotcowboy.com

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Object to store images and movies.
by Donal Carey 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

Hi This is my first post to the list so I'll do a quick intro and backround. My name's Donal Carey and I'm currently studying for a Masters in Multimedia Systems in Trinity College Dublin (Ireland). I'm starting work on a PD project for use by DJ's in a live performance context. The basic premise of the project is that the PD patch will select and display media (still images & video) automatically based on the tempo and complexity of the music. So at the start of the performance when the music is minimal the patch will select and display only black and white still images, as the tempo and complexity increases the patch should start displaying black and white videos also. After a certain threshold is reached the patch should display only colour videos. Hopefully the effect will be that as the night progresses and the music gets faster and more complicated the images displayed should move from B&W stills into B&W video and from there into colour video, all automatically of course. My question is, is there a PD object (like an array) that will store these sets of media for me? Thanks and regards Donal

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italian infobox
by Fabio Buda [mbutUbuntu] 06 Dec '07

06 Dec '07

hello folks, I've just translated the Firts Page of the italian wiki... here there is the IT translation of infobox

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