Pd-list October 2007

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repertory for amateurs
by Hans Roels 22 Oct '07

22 Oct '07

Hello, I am teaching electronic music to a group of teenagers (minimum age 15 years)in a music school in Belgium and I mainly use PD for this. We play improvisations and I write some pieces but i am also looking for compositions that I can use. So these are my two questions: - Has anybody made some pieces with electronics that I could use? or do you know pieces like this? I guess there are some composers in this list. If there are parts for acoustic instruments, these can't be too difficult (most of these teenagers have been playing an instrument since they were 9 years old). No Ferneyhough pieces please :) - If anyone would like to make a piece for any combination of instruments and/or electronics (no more than 4 computer performers simultaneously), please do so! Again: if you also want to involve an acoustic instrument, take care that it is playable for an amateur. Let me know if you are interested and I 'll give you some more details. I would like to make a kind of PD repertory project but with live-electronic pieces for amateurs and/or children. The only pieces that I can use at the moment are pieces of Alvin Lucier, Somei Satoh, Daniel Goode,... hans r

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Will Netotchka Nezvanova please sit down...
by Kyle Klipowicz 22 Oct '07

22 Oct '07

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netochka_Nezvanova For some reason I feel that this is appropriate. I hope our community can be a bit more mature...email lasts for n=n+1 years. ~Kyle -- ----- ------------ ---- ----- ---- -------- - ------ http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz

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install latest pd-ext
by Josh Lawrence 22 Oct '07

22 Oct '07

Hello - newbie lurker here. I am attempting to install the latest Pd-extended on my debian testing box, and this is what I get: pd-extended: Depends: tcl8.4 but it is not going to be installed Depends: tk8.4 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libflac7 but it is not installable Depends: imagemagick Depends: libpng3 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmpeg1 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmpeg2-4 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmpeg3-1 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libquicktime0 but it is not installable Depends: libdv4 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libimlib2 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libgsl0 but it is not going to be installed Depends: libmagick++9c2a but it is not going to be installed Depends: x-ttcidfont-conf but it is not going to be installed Depends: libavifile-0.7c2 but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). So no problem, I can go through and install these, except I get tripped right off the bat - there is no libflac7, only 6 and 8. How are the debian folks getting past this issue? The website mentions automatically getting the right dependancies downloaded, but I do not know how to do that. Thank you, -- Josh Lawrence http://www.hardbop200.com

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metastudio released
by Ed Kelly 22 Oct '07

22 Oct '07

Greetings. My electro app, the metastudio is now released as version 0.1 Sorry there's no docs, I'm really busy, but I'll try to get something together soon! Check out the page: http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata/ or download'>http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata/metastudio-v0.1.zip">download Have fun, Ed Lone Shark "Aviation" out now on http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com http://www.myspace.com/sharktracks ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

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Audio drops when I refresh many text in scrolline by external MIDI control.
by Kuba Szczypek 22 Oct '07

22 Oct '07

Dear friends, I have serious problem with my patch. It is hard to write it in proper English for me, but I have no choice - I must try,since I`m looking for help. I would like to show (by scrollist) my list of titles 128 song names. But since I have small space for this on screen, I use only 8 lines in scrollist and "page up" page down" mechanism. I prepared patch who: - first send 128 lines into memory of scrollist - next I mark/unmark proper line. But since I have only 8 line show on display , and list have 128 positions I often must change pages. The problem is that changing pages cause drop. If I change very fast (by fader) from 0 to 127 (song nuber) many times and from 127 to 0 (again again) then I can see that screen is completely frozen and audio drop is very long (like about 3, 4 second). More moving I did = bigger drop and longer frozen screen. When I do the same, but with fader on the screen, no problem there. Problem is only when I use external MIDI fader. (of course normally when I use any MIDI message it work great, problem is only with this setup: scrollist) I tried change thread priority (pd and pd-gui) with many different combinations, but it not solved problem. I use Ubuntu Studio with gnome, oss audio system. Pentium IV 2,4 512 ram Geforce mx 400 with TV out enabled. I would like to ask also is oss better than alsa+jack or not? (I mean performance power). Thank you ---------------------------------------------------- Paul Oakenfold - najdroÂższy DJ Âświata juÂż 7 grudnia wystÂąpi w Hali Stulecia we WrocÂławiu. Zobacz wiĂŞcej: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fgaleria.html&sid…

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building pdj
by Michal Seta 21 Oct '07

21 Oct '07

Hi all. I wanted give pdj a try but i am having trouble building it. I've followed all instructions to setup ant and cpptasks but cannot get the pdj build going. <survey> Has anyone successfully built pdj? </survey> I have tried building pdj with ant's versions 1.6.5 and 1.7.0. Both failed. I have modified build.xml in various ways (following hese directions for cpptasks installation and build config: http://ant-contrib.sourceforge.net/cc.html) and always get the following error: ant package Buildfile: build.xml -init: cl-java: javah: cl: BUILD FAILED /home/mis/cvs/pdj-0.8.2/build.xml:68: Problem: failed to create task or type cc Cause: The name is undefined. Action: Check the spelling. Action: Check that any custom tasks/types have been declared. Action: Check that any <presetdef>/<macrodef> declarations have taken place. Total time: 0 seconds make: *** [all] Error 1 Any pointers/comments would be appreciated. thanks, ./MiS

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Pd-extended on gusty
by kimm furt 21 Oct '07

21 Oct '07

hi hans and list, i just tried to install a Pd-0.40.3-extended...deb on ubuntustudio 7.10 which was released yesterday. but a couple of libaries aren't availible in the repos anymore. for example there's libflac8 instaed of libflac7 and libquicktime1 instead of version 0, and i didn' succeed. is it possible to get the source, that is used for the auto-builds somewhere? so i can try to compile it by myself. will there eventually be a .deb for gusty in the nearer future? or does anyone know any other way to get Pd-extended running on gusty? if not, i'll have to install feisty again... thanks, kimm

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Compilation problems under Fedora 7
by Robert Gruendler 21 Oct '07

21 Oct '07

Hi, i'm trying to compile the cvs version of gem under fedora 7. Here's where it hangs: In file included from ../Pixes/filmFFMPEG.h:24, from filmFFMPEG.cpp:18: /usr/include/ffmpeg/avformat.h:66: error: integer constant is too large for ‘long’ type /usr/include/ffmpeg/avformat.h:67: error: integer constant is too large for ‘long’ type /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2476: warning: attribute ignored in declaration of ‘struct ImgReSampleContext’ /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2476: warning: attribute for ‘struct ImgReSampleContext’ must follow the ‘struct’ keyword /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2487: warning: ‘ImgReSampleContext’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2481) /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2497: warning: ‘ImgReSampleContext’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2481) /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2503: warning: ‘ImgReSampleContext’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2481) /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2508: warning: ‘ImgReSampleContext’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2481) /usr/include/ffmpeg/avformat.h: In function ‘void av_init_packet(AVPacket*)’: /usr/include/ffmpeg/avformat.h:66: error: ‘INT64_C’ was not declared in this scope /usr/include/ffmpeg/avformat.h: At global scope: /usr/include/ffmpeg/avformat.h:295: warning: ‘AVFrac’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/ffmpeg/avformat.h:121) filmFFMPEG.cpp: In member function ‘virtual void filmFFMPEG::close()’: filmFFMPEG.cpp:71: error: cannot convert ‘AVCodecContext**’ to ‘AVCodecContext*’ for argument ‘1’ to ‘int avcodec_close(AVCodecContext*)’ filmFFMPEG.cpp: In member function ‘virtual bool filmFFMPEG::open(char*, int)’: filmFFMPEG.cpp:104: error: request for member ‘codec_id’ in ‘stream->AVStream::codec’, which is of non-class type ‘AVCodecContext*’ filmFFMPEG.cpp:106: error: request for member ‘codec_type’ in ‘stream->AVStream::codec’, which is of non-class type ‘AVCodecContext*’ filmFFMPEG.cpp:120: error: cannot convert ‘AVCodecContext**’ to ‘AVCodecContext*’ for argument ‘1’ to ‘int avcodec_open(AVCodecContext*, AVCodec*)’ filmFFMPEG.cpp:140: error: request for member ‘time_base’ in ‘stream->AVStream::codec’, which is of non-class type ‘AVCodecContext*’ filmFFMPEG.cpp:173: error: request for member ‘width’ in ‘stream->AVStream::codec’, which is of non-class type ‘AVCodecContext*’ filmFFMPEG.cpp:174: error: request for member ‘height’ in ‘stream->AVStream::codec’, which is of non-class type ‘AVCodecContext*’ filmFFMPEG.cpp: In member function ‘virtual pixBlock* filmFFMPEG::getFrame()’: filmFFMPEG.cpp:256: error: request for member ‘frame_number’ in ‘stream->AVStream::codec’, which is of non-class type ‘AVCodecContext*’ filmFFMPEG.cpp:267: error: cannot convert ‘AVCodecContext**’ to ‘AVCodecContext*’ for argument ‘1’ to ‘int avcodec_decode_video(AVCodecContext*, AVFrame*, int*, uint8_t*, int)’ filmFFMPEG.cpp:310: error: request for member ‘width’ in ‘stream->AVStream::codec’, which is of non-class type ‘AVCodecContext*’ filmFFMPEG.cpp:311: error: request for member ‘height’ in ‘stream->AVStream::codec’, which is of non-class type ‘AVCodecContext*’ filmFFMPEG.cpp:312: error: request for member ‘pix_fmt’ in ‘stream->AVStream::codec’, which is of non-class type ‘AVCodecContext*’ filmFFMPEG.cpp:315: warning: ‘img_convert’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2636) filmFFMPEG.cpp:315: warning: ‘img_convert’ is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/ffmpeg/avcodec.h:2636) filmFFMPEG.cpp:320: error: request for member ‘frame_number’ in ‘stream->AVStream::codec’, which is of non-class type ‘AVCodecContext*’ make[1]: *** [filmFFMPEG.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/sobert/src/Gem/src/Pixes' make: *** [Pixes] Error 2 Does anyone know if this is a libffmpeg version-problem ? I'm using libffmpeg version 0.4.9. Any help greatly appreciated. -robert

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pyext crashes on pd startup
by olsen wolf 21 Oct '07

21 Oct '07

buenas on a feisty ubuntustudio i installed pyext - no nagging during installation but as soon as i start pd with -lib py -path -path /home/olsen/pd/extra/grill/py/scripts it crashes with Pd: signal 4 - without pyext works flawlessly. i tried it with Pd-0.39.3-extended-ubuntu-feisty-i386.deb & Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071020-ubuntu-feisty-i386.ded & py-0.2.0-pd.tgz pyext is using python 2.4 - strangely enough same settings on my laptop (kubuntu feisty)works... any hint welcome thanks olsen -- Planet Pluto bleibt!

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Re: [PD] [OT] Re: about sexism is TERMINATE THREAD PLEASE
by Alexandre Castonguay 21 Oct '07

21 Oct '07

Hi all, Yves, Here are some facts may help explain and paint a correct picture of the convention's gender distribution. Number of applications received for the exhibition component : 9 (F) 26 (M) Invitations sent : 6 (F) 12 (M) Number of applications for performances (* I am unsure as to the gender of one applicant as we didn't ask people to specify it in their application.) 3 (F) 32 (M) Invitations sent : 2 (F) 18 (M) As Andrew Brouse noted, the applications for papers did not carry the author's names so it makes it hard to get a picture of the gender breakdown. Out of 46 'papers invitations', 2 were extended to women and I believe that may unfortunately be the number of applicants? Andrew may be able to answer to that. I believe that the impression Yves got is justified. It is just that the community is overwhelmingly male and 'white' (another thread!). It also seems that the juries for the papers, exhibition and performances were conscious of the fact as it is somewhat reflected in the final breakdown of invitations sent. Some observations on other parts of this long thread that may yet yield something positive. * The component of the convention that had the highest representation of women applicants was the exhibition. It shows that this form of contribution is often the way through which women enter the community. It should be maintained and expanded through other conventions. * I heard through the application process that some women were intimidated by the perceived technological sophistication of the pd scene and thought that their work may not be 'pure' enough to warrant an application. In that light, dismissing people whose work process calls on external expertise to be realized does not help with that perception of purity. * I am personally glad that our efforts of providing better documentation and access to the software got a renewed push through the work groups and discussions happening at the convention. * Building a more representative community will take time and many more pd-conventions, workshops, efforts through documentation and packaging, participating in long email threads and chats. Let's keep in mind that most of us take part in these efforts because we believe we can make the community more inclusive, make good work and have fun while doing it. A bientot, Alexandre On Friday 19 October 2007 08:24:26 ydegoyon(a)free.fr wrote: > ola, > > > Honestly I wasn't even sure this sevy was really Yves, and for that > > matter I know nothing about Yves. As I said- the original statement was > > completely untrue; and the original poster hasn't responded to that fact. > > I honestly did not believe the subject was a problem on this list. > > wrong! i sent this after reading 'wettest dream' in a mail from 2 weeks > ago, but anyway it was 2 years or more that this was going on, > and was also a general feeling from pd convention > ( seems work groups were only constituted of men ), > too bad some people speaking here were not there. > > saludos, > sevy > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Pd-list October 2007