Pd-list January 2007

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connect pd and max in network???
by Andres Ferrari 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

hello, is possible to connect pd and max/msp in a net with any object similar to netsend or other?(in the same computer or in 2 computers in network. thnaks a lot. AndrÃ©s Ferrari G. http://puredata.org/Members/anfex __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam Â¡gratis! RegÃstrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/

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Re: [PD] pictures from a digital camera
by raphy.ilias＠free.fr 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Selon Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org>: > Hallo, > IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > raphy.ilias(a)free.fr wrote: > > > Hello ! > > > > > Another question : I'm now working with the pure:dyne (I think you know > it). I'd > > > like to display the Gem window in fullscreen on an external > > > monitor/videoprojector. I manage to get an « extended desktop » (with > Xinerama) > > > but not to display the gemwin on the external monitor : with [fullscreen > 1( it > > > is always displayed on my laptop, and with [fullscreen 0( the video of > the Gem > > > window is no more rendered when i pass it on the external screen. I tried > lots > > > of settings in my xorg.conf, but it never worked more than once (if it > works > > > one time, it doesn't anymore when i restart X). I think Gem refers to the > > > Screen 0 to choose where it is displayed, but even if i define the > external > > > screen as the Screen 0, it doesn't work, the « display screen » or the « > > > rendering buffer » remains on my laptop. My graphic card is a Intel 855 > GME, so > > > i'm using i810 as driver. Has anyone got the same problem ? > > > > this should be a problem with your gfx card (though i have no experience > > with your specific model; probably frank can help you here) > ... > > there is nothing you can do about this, but: > > a) try to mirror the output of the built-in screen to the external > > screen. this way you have less possibilities to interact with your patch > > (since your primary display is occupied by the fullscreen gem window), > > but at least you might get output. > > Well, how to set up the PIPEs on Intel chips still is a mystery to me > as well, so I'm avoiding it. I also don't use Xinerama, but instead > just rely on your solution a) which is the default setup anyways for > xorg AFAIK. My laptop has a special key which cyccle between > disabled/enabled builtin screen/VGA output like (builtin on, vga off), > (b off, vga on) and (b on, vga on). Normally I then get the same image > on both screens and all is well (unless a Ben-Q beamer is connected to > VGA, as these seem to dislike my laptop.) > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > Thanks IOhannes and Frank ! So, if i understand (as my french-english is quite bad), there's no solution to get the gemwin on the external screen and the patch on the laptop screen, with that type of card. I had managed to display "clone" and "extended" screen. But under windows 2K (glups !) i can get an extended desktop and the video is rendered (for example, with VLC player) on the external screen. Maybe this because this is not OpenGL. In this case, couldn't it exist a trick to render it as non-3D (wich doesn't interest me, i'm doing 2D with Gem, because i know it better) or something like passing it from Gem to pdp ? If I remember well the workshop i did, there's something like gem_to_pdp... Or should I use pdp in case of Gem ? About the Intel Graphics, I heard that Intel had just made their drivers more open, dont't they ? Do you think, there will be more support for these cards later with linux ? However, now, I'll try with my girlfriend laptop ; i hope her graphic card is different ! Thanks once more nota : excuse me, i send this mail to your personnal adress instead of sending it to the pd-list

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compiling iemmatrix OSX 10.4
by Kevin McCoy 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Hi listy, I have really really been wanting to get started on using mtx_mul~ as per a previous thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-12/044988.html I decided in the end since it is: a: not working for me in pd-extended 0.38 (see prev thread) b: not included in any pd-extended builds for OS X after that that I need to compile it myself. I try to run the autoconf in the src directory and I get: klangisch:~/externals/iem/iemmatrix/src kmccoy$ autoconf configure.ac:40: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CHECK_CFLAGS If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. configure.ac:155: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CHECK_LDFLAGS I don't have much experience compiling and I'm not quite sure where to go from here. This set of objects would be really exciting for me to use, so if anyone can help me with this I would *very* much appreciate it. Kevin -- ++++ http://pocketkm.blogspot.com

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[PD-announce] fix for [#import_pix], [#export_pix]
by Mathieu Bouchard 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

I've just committed a fix for [#import_pix] and [#export_pix], that I had made a while ago but forgot to commit. It allows those to work with Ruby 1.8 on OSX, or something. It's in the GridFlow CVS now. _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: connect pd and max in network??
by Jaime Oliver 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

/////////////// Sorry If I double posted this e mail, but i'm not sure if it got through since i was changing e mail adresses /////////////// Hello Andrés, I have recently tried to accomplish that same thing, in my case to send messages from Max to Pd in the same machine. (just so that we are on the same track I'm using OSX 10.4.8 PowerPC G4 1.67GHz 512MB, Max 4.6.2 and Pd 0.40-1) Now I still haven't tried OSC, but netsend/netreceive in UDP gave me messages in the max window of this sort: netsend: warning: blocked 17 msec but I have gotten messages up to 282ms. this behaviour is quite erratic, sometimes it is 16-17 for a while and then suddenly 85, 156, 256, etc. Now this is the answer I got in the max-list from Olaf Mathes who i believe made or maintains these objects for Max... > Right. It just means that delivering the messages took 17 milliseconds. > You get a waring for every attept to send that takes longer than 5 ms. > However, the data gets through anyway, if not you'd get a warning > telling you so. > I will probably update netsend ibn a few days because I think it uses > the wrong time functio (systime_ms()) to figure out how long sending > takes. I will change this to clock_getftime() because I have the slight > feeling that ntsend is complaining far too often. So... I have tried to send only one or two floats every 50ms and it complains very little, but i am not trusting netsend too much right now... let me know how it works for you... good luck, Jaime

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Re: connect pd and max in network??
by Jaime Oliver 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Hello Andrés, I have recently tried to accomplish that same thing, in my case to send messages from Max to Pd in the same machine. (just so that we are on the same track I'm using OSX 10.4.8 PowerPC G4 1.67GHz 512MB, Max 4.6.2 and Pd 0.40-1) Now I still haven't tried OSC, but netsend/netreceive in UDP gave me messages in the max window of this sort: netsend: warning: blocked 17 msec but I have gotten messages up to 282ms. this behaviour is quite erratic, sometimes it is 16-17 for a while and then suddenly 85, 156, 256, etc. Now this is the answer I got in the max-list from Olaf Mathes who i believe made or maintains these objects for Max... > Right. It just means that delivering the messages took 17 milliseconds. > You get a waring for every attept to send that takes longer than 5 ms. > However, the data gets through anyway, if not you'd get a warning > telling you so. > I will probably update netsend ibn a few days because I think it uses > the wrong time functio (systime_ms()) to figure out how long sending > takes. I will change this to clock_getftime() because I have the slight > feeling that ntsend is complaining far too often. So... I have tried to send only one or two floats every 50ms and it complains very little, but i am not trusting netsend too much right now... let me know how it works for you... good luck, Jaime > > Andres Ferrari a écrit : > > hello, > > is possible to connect pd and max/msp in a net with > > any object similar to netsend or other?(in the same > > computer or in 2 computers in network. > > "netsend max" on sroogle give this page : > http://www.akustische-kunst.org/maxmsp/ > where you can download netsend / netreceive object for max on os9, osX intel, PPC or windows. > they work fine, and exactly like in pd. > > but as other people says, you can also use OSC. just stay away for OSC for max < 4.5 and windows (i've got bad experiences). > > cyrille >

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OT: video automated compsiting
by Max Neupert 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

hi list, i need advice or a contractor for the following programming work: there is a battery test, where batteries are tested for safety. batteries are overcharged and exposed to pressure. one test can take up to 9 hours. the test is put on video by a hard disk video camera which produces movie pieces of 1.99 GB each. here are some examples (edited) http://www.extraenergy.org/files/ENAX_BatteryTest.mp4 http://www.extraenergy.org/files/EE_BatteryTest.mp4 from the test 7 sensors take data and save it in an table this is the device taking the data JUMO LOGOSCREEN cf http://www3.jumo.de/pio/product.do?uuid=dde161330a0a025d224701f0dfb8ca89 it stores the values on a cf-card / send it over serial port. the final thing should be a movie file with the sensor data visualized on top of it as a kind of overlay. the visualization and compositing should be an automated process. also the most of the time nothing happens in the video. in this case (sensors don't report a sudden change of values) the video should be displayed in fast forward. what should be developed is a software which creates the visual overlay for the video data. sync with the video data should be ensured. ok. any advice on how to approach this is very welcome. if you think you would like to do this as a contract, please answer me privately and include price and development time needed. it its kind of last minute, because there is a meeting with the customer tomorrow (in 6 hrs) so if anyone is interested react quickly. price can be an estimation but should include a maximum. max.

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wiiremote b4
by Stefano Papetti 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

Hello Hans, thanks for porting it! I'm not able to compile the cvs version with make under MacOSX 10.4.8. Could you please tell me which are the commands to get it compiled? Many thanks, Stefano

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pictures from a digital camera
by raphy.ilias＠free.fr 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

Hello ! I'm working on an installation which displays a GEM video. This video is generated with pictures taken by a digital camera and some random tools. At this state, the patch just loads photographs from the harddrive with the object [pix_image] or [pix_multiimage]. Now, i'd like to insert new photographs in the video, while the patch is running. In fact, the installation should be a real-time video and a digital camera which lets the spectator free to take a photograph of himself, and being automatically integrated as new material for the patch to generate video. That's the idea. Now, I don't know if there's a way to control a digital camera, or a videocamera (maybe it's easier, with the firewire protocol) to make it take a picture which can be then stored in a GEM object. All I've got is a USB digital camera (for photo) and a DVcamera (so with a firewire link). I'm not interested in having a huge resolution, 640x480 is the maximum (because I haven't got a very fast computer and I prefer to have lot of photographs (I hope there will be a lot of spectator !)). Is it possible to control theses devices with pd, or to create an external program (in a different language) which communicates with pd. Is there documentation about this ? Another question : I'm now working with the pure:dyne (I think you know it). I'd like to display the Gem window in fullscreen on an external monitor/videoprojector. I manage to get an « extended desktop » (with Xinerama) but not to display the gemwin on the external monitor : with [fullscreen 1( it is always displayed on my laptop, and with [fullscreen 0( the video of the Gem window is no more rendered when i pass it on the external screen. I tried lots of settings in my xorg.conf, but it never worked more than once (if it works one time, it doesn't anymore when i restart X). I think Gem refers to the Screen 0 to choose where it is displayed, but even if i define the external screen as the Screen 0, it doesn't work, the « display screen » or the « rendering buffer » remains on my laptop. My graphic card is a Intel 855 GME, so i'm using i810 as driver. Has anyone got the same problem ? Thanks a lot and sorry again for my newbie's questions, Raphael

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[PD-announce] [Studio XX] Fête de l'art :: Art's Birthday
by annonces＠studioxx.org 15 Jan '07

15 Jan '07

<http://studioxx.org> [english] <#en> Le 17 janvier 2007, à partir de 17h, le Studio XX vous convie à une soirée festive à l'occasion de la Fête de l'Art! **Point de rencontre à OBORO** **Apportez votre lecteur CD portatif (ghettoblaster), lampe de poche, chapeau de fête, flûte, et thermos.** /Depuis la proclamation de l'artiste Fluxus, Robert Filliou, en 1963, le 17 janvier est la Fête de l'Art. Ainsi, l'art est né il y a environ 1,000,000 d'années, et des artistes et groupes d'artistes un peu partout sur la planète s'activent à célébrer cet anniversaire en organisant des événements internationaux et des happenings en réseau, en mangeant du gâteau et en offrant des cadeaux à l'Art. À chaque année, la Fête de l'Art devient une occasion d'échange entre artistes et entre événements. La « Fête Permanente » s'agrandit ainsi d'année en année tout en explorant les arts des télécommunications./ HORAIRE *:: 17h00* Rendez-vous à OBORO, 4001 Berri, local 301 (thé, chocolat chaud seront servis // apportez votre thermos !) Installation interactive de *Jason E. Lewis*, /Everything You Thought We'd Forgotten/ *:: 17h45 PM* Départ de OBORO du parcours psychogéographique sonore, organisé par *UpgradeMtl*, avec musique expérimentale et électronique de : *I8U, Fishead, Tim Hecker, Saibotuk*. *Apportez votre lecteur CD portable - ghettoblaster (n'oubliez pas vos piles !). Des cds seront distribués.* *:: 18h30* Rendez-vous au Carré St-Louis où *Jasa Baka* et *Tyr Jami* (Parlour Treats) nous attendent pour une courte performance festive et colorée (**apportez chapeaux de fête et lampes de poche**). //// Parlour Treats est un duo farfelu composé des deux soeurs Jasa Baka et Tyr Jami. Elles vous invitent à une performance festive autour de l'imaginaire du gâteau et de l'enfance. Essayez de venir en attraper un morceau ! *:: 19h00+* La fête se poursuit Au StudioXX Performance de *Tyr Jami* (violoncelle) Performance en réseau de *Kelly Andres* notre artiste résidente virtuelle de Lethbridge, Alberta. Musique, gâteaux et boissons des fêtes. En collaboration avec Upgrade Mtl Upgrade est une organisation autonome, internationale et rhizomatique de rendez-vous mensuels pour la culture numérique et les arts technologiques. Upgrade Montreal bénéficie du soutien généreux de la Société des arts technologiques [SAT], ainsi que de ses réseaux formant Upgrade International, des divers partenaires avec lesquels il collabore, des artistes faisant don de leur temps, et de l'énergie bénévole de son triumvirate organisateur formé de tobias c. van Veen, Sophie Le-Phat Ho & Anik Fournier. [+ de info] <#info> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <http://studioxx.org> On January 17th 2007, starting at 5pm at OBORO, Studio XX invites you to a celebration for The Art's Birthday! **Meeting at OBORO** **Bring your portable cd player (ghettoblaster), flashlight, party hat, and thermos.** /Since the proclamation of Fluxus artist Robert Filliou in 1963, January 17th happens to be Art's Birthday. Art was thus born 1,000,000 years ago and artists and artist groups everywhere around the globe celebrate this important anniversary by organizing international events and network art happenings, and by eating cake and offering gifts to Art. Every year, Art's Birthday becomes an occasion for exchange between artists and art events. The Eternal Network grows this way by exploring the telecommunications arts./ SCHEDULE *:: 5 pm* Gathering at OBORO, 4001 Berri, suite 301 (tea and hot chocolate wil be served // bring: your mug / thermos ! Interactive installation from *Jason E. Lewis*, /Everything You Thought We'd Forgotten/. *:: 5:45 pm* Departure from OBORO for the psychogeographique sound walk, organized by *UpgradeMtl*, with electronic music of : *I8U, Fishead, Tim Hecker, Saibotuk*. *Bring your portable CD ghettoblaster to broadcast the music in public. (don't forget the batteries!). Cds will be distributed.* *:: 6:30 pm* Carré St-Louis with *Jasa Baka* and *Tyr Jami* (Parlour Treats) for a short festive performance (**bring birthday hats and flashlights**) //// Parlour Treats are Jasa Baka and Tyr Jami, an outlandish sister team. They invite you into their outdoor Parlour for an experience of cake. A treat you knew you wanted when you were five but couldn't reach through to your imaginary world for. Come have a piece, if you can catch it! *:: 7 pm +* Art's Birthday party at the StudioXX *Tyr Jami* performance (cello) On-line performance by *Kelly Andres*, virtual resident from Lethbridge, Alberta. Music, cakes, drinks! En collaboration avec Upgrade Mtl The Upgrade is an autonomous, international and grassroots organization of monthly gatherings for digital culture and the technology arts. Upgrade Montreal is generously supported by the Society for Arts and Technology [SAT], through networks of the Upgrade International, the various partners we work with, the artists who donate their time and the personal energies of its organizer triumvirate of tobias c. van Veen, Sophie Le-Phat Ho & Anik Fournier. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * INFORMATION : StudioXX : 514-845-7934 studioxx.org <http://studioxx.org> programmation(a)studioxx.org <mailto:programmation@studioxx.org> www.artsbirthday.net <http://www.artsbirthday.net> upgrademtl.org <http://upgrademtl.org> theupgrade.sat.qc.ca <http://theupgrade.sat.qc.ca> www.theupgrade.net <http://www.theupgrade.net> <http://studioxx.org> <http://upgrademtl.org> _______________________________________________ Annonces mailing list Annonces(a)studioxx.org http://www.studioxx.org/mailman/listinfo/annonces _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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