Pd-list January 2007

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Re: [PD] Patchmatrix Execution Order Issues
by Phil Stone 20 Jan '07

20 Jan '07

Luke Iannini writes: > Sorry if I'm losing everyone : ), hopefully at least the idea of a > Pd-Message-Patchmatrix makes sense to everyone and I'm just losing > everyone with my implementation and explanation thereof! I don't yet understand the details of what you propose, but I certainly see the value of your goal; it's something I've dreamed about, too -- dynamic patching. Best of luck to you, and I will follow your progress with interest. Phil Stone UC Davis

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Re: [PD] polypoly's second inlet
by Phil Stone 20 Jan '07

20 Jan '07

Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: > > >> > I've been converting a PD synth I've been using from an [nqpoly] voice >> > manager to Frank's new [polypoly]. Mostly, it's working well for me, >> > but one thing about it seems less than optimal, and I wonder if it is >> > intentional. >> > >> > The first inlet sends its {note, amp} pairs to one and only one instance >> > of the polypoly'd abstraction. The second inlet broadcasts its message >> > to *all* instances (see attached patch for simple illustration). >> > >> > I can see reasons for wanting it to work that way, so if it was >> > intentional, so be it. It would work much better for my selfish >> > purposes -- I like to send a big list of parameters to the voice that's >> > about to be fired off -- if it only connected to the same instance that >> > the first inlet connects to. >> > > You could use a little trick by connecting the second inlet to the > right inlet of a [list] object inside your wrapper to store, but not > activate new settings on a per note level. Then bang the left inlet of > this [list] with the "noteon"-message coming in to the left inlet of > your wrapper with a [t a b] or something like that. > Clever -- that would work for getting the parameters to the desired voice and that one only. I still worry a bit about the inefficiency of 64 copies (for a 64-voice synth, which is what I've been using) of my big parameter list flying around needlessly. Frank, if you have a few moments, could you explain a little about how this wiring works in [polypoly]? I see in the [pd init] subpatch of [polypoly] where the connections are made, but I don't understand why the first inlet goes only to the current [poly]-selected voice, while the second goes to all second inlets of all the cloned abstractions. It's hard to envision what the final patch would look like, or why it would look that way, at least. > > (As an aside, it occurs to me that [polypoly] would be much more > > generalizable if the first inlet could send a list *of any size* to the > > poly-allocated abstraction, instead of a hardwired {note, amp} pair. > > > Actually this is a limitation of [poly], and [polypoly] really was > made to be a handy wrapper around [poly] that mimicks most of its > functionality and can alsmost be used as a drop-in replacement without > having to refer to the help patch again. I understand. > It may be nice if [poly] > would support "note amp foo bar etc." lists. > I agree; that would make [polypoly] useful for any conceivable kind of abstraction cloning, not just synth voices constrained to a {note, amp} model. But you can only work with what you have, of course. > Maybe you will be happier with using [ngpoly4] directly? > I have been using [nqpoly4] (specifically, your update of it) quite productively, but I am excited by the possibility of unscheduled (i.e., live) note-offs, which is what [polypoly] offers. I know sometimes it's hard to hear "tone" in email, so I just want to make it clear that I am not criticizing [polypoly]. I think it's awesome, and am very grateful for your work on it. I'm trying to understand it better, though. Respectfully, Phil Stone UC Davis > Ciao > -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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Re: [PD] sort of "pluggo" for pd?
by Kevin McCoy 20 Jan '07

20 Jan '07

I believe that's what the external [vst~] was supposed to do - make your pd patch into a vst module usable in other programs. I am not sure what the state of that one is though.. maybe someone more knowledgeable can chime in. I don't know of anything like jack for Win32 (I assume this is what you mean, since OS X is unix-based too). Sorry! Kevin On 1/19/07, PORRES <mentalosmosis(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > yes, but jack is something different than cardoso mentioned... > > putting it the other way around, is there anything like jack for non-linux > systems? > > and keeping the original query, is there a possibility of making vst > modules out of our pd patches? > > cheers! > alexandre torres porres > > *Kevin McCoy <km.takewithyou(a)gmail.com>* wrote: > > > > If you're on Linux or OS X, see Jack: > > http://jackaudio.org > > Kevin > > On 1/19/07, Miguel Cardoso < mcardoso(a)soopa.org> wrote: > > > > is there any development of some sort of pluggo for pure data? > > > > it would be great to use our patches as audiounits for other audio > > software. > > > > > > thaks > > miguel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > -- > > > ++++ > http://pocketkm.blogspot.com > > -- > > > ++++ > http://pocketkm.blogspot.com_______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > ------------------------------ > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers<http://answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1…>. > Try it now. > > -- ++++ http://pocketkm.blogspot.com

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jack
by Miguel Cardoso 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

since im on macintel, pdvst doesn't work. i downloaded jack, but it isn't compiled. can anyone help on compiling jack for macintel? On Jan 19, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Kevin McCoy wrote: > If you're on Linux or OS X, see Jack: > > http://jackaudio.org > > Kevin > > On 1/19/07, Miguel Cardoso < mcardoso(a)soopa.org> wrote: > is there any development of some sort of pluggo for pure data? > > it would be great to use our patches as audiounits for other audio > software. > > > thaks > miguel > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list > > > > -- > > > ++++ > http://pocketkm.blogspot.com

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Re: [PD] (pthreadVC.dll) was vst~ , was pluggo for pd
by martin.peach＠sympatico.ca 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

PORRES said: > where should this dll be? the only ones I have are in pd instalation folders (not even in the installed directoty [program files/pd]), there are none in my system 32 folder. > You can get it by downloading Miller's pd from his site. It's in the pd/bin folder. Martin _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Re: [PD] sort of "pluggo" for pd?
by Kevin McCoy 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

If you're on Linux or OS X, see Jack: http://jackaudio.org Kevin On 1/19/07, Miguel Cardoso < mcardoso(a)soopa.org> wrote: > > is there any development of some sort of pluggo for pure data? > > it would be great to use our patches as audiounits for other audio > software. > > > thaks > miguel > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- ++++ http://pocketkm.blogspot.com -- ++++ http://pocketkm.blogspot.com

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sort of "pluggo" for pd?
by Miguel Cardoso 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

is there any development of some sort of pluggo for pure data? it would be great to use our patches as audiounits for other audio software. thaks miguel

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[PD-announce] PureData Montréal Users Group, 23rd gathering
by Mathieu Bouchard 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

moin moin everybody :) time for the 23rd gathering of the pd club. = PUREDATA MONTRÉAL #23 = '''20 janvier 2007 13:00''' '''at RATS, salle 401 du 6545 Durocher, Montréal.''' Carte routière : http://artengine.ca/pdmtl/rats_map.jpg == 1. La librairie d'abstractions PdMtl == Patrick Coulombe, Alexandre Quessy et Thomas Ouellet Fredericks présenteront la librairie d'abstractions pdmtl: La première partie portera sur la librairie en général. La deuxième plus particulièrement sur le format "sample". === Première partie === Le concept central de la librairie d'abstractions pdmtl est de classer les abstractions par ce qu'elles font, et non par leur auteur! La librairie propose aussi des méthodes pour uniformiser l'utilisation des GOP (graph on parent), des échantillons et du "state saving", etc. La librairie intègre déjà et intégrera aussi davantage d'abstractions, tel LEM de Patrick et MUZAQ d'Alexandre. Contrairement à d'autres logiciels du genre, Pure Data est conçu pour offrir des outil très flexibles, de bas niveau, plutôt que des objets englobant plusieurs fonctions, de haut niveau. C'est pourquoi nous croyons qu'il est nécessaire d'encapsuler ces objets dans des abstractions afin de faciliter leur utilisation. Ceci permet d'accélérer l'appropriation des possibilités qu'offre Pure Data, par une mise en boîte noire de détails plus compliqués. L'utilisateur peut tout-de-même retirer les algorithmes qui lui plaisent de ces abstractions pour les inclure directement dans ses propres patches. === Deuxième partie === Le format sample tire son origine du projet 8teen qui a été morcelé en modules qui communiquent avec des "sample id". C'est similaire à Gem, mais pour l'audio. Le format "sample" permet de : * Charger des fichiers wav en mémoire sans glitchs audio. * Alterner immédiatement entre plusieurs fichiers différents. * Afficher graphiquement le sample, ainsi que de réagir à des interconnections/déconnections en temps réel. * D'interconnecter facilement toutes les abstractions sample entre elles. * De gérer les fichiers mono et stéreo automatiquement (le multicannal pourrait être supporté). * Fixer le samplerate des différents fichiers à celui de Pure Data. * etc... Bref, rendre la gestion des échantillons audio beaucoup plus facile. == 2. Congrès PureData == Mise à jour par Marc Fournel, Darsha Hewitt, Andrew Brouse et Alexandre Castonguay. _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[PD-announce] beyond the mouse
by steve symons 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

Hi Felt that this might be of interest to the list .... I have just discovered that there are a few places left on these two workshops (makes a good 2 day grounding in the field). They will be run at FACT, Liverpool UK at the start of February. Though the blurb says Director (!) and MAX/MSP (!!) there is the opportunity or individuals to explore other software such as SuperCollider, PD, P5 or even Flash. Please feel free to contact me directly about content enquiries, otherwise book a place via the email below. Best Steve > BEYOND THE MOUSE INTRODUCTION TO INTERACTIVE SYSTEMS > 01 FEBRUARY 2007 | TUTOR: STEVE SYMONS > Many artists have found that the only way to construct the > interactive environments they > need is to work with sophisticated programming tools such as MAX/ > MSP and to build > control devices directly into programmable integrated circuits. > This session aims to > support an understanding of these fairly esoteric tools and to > demonstrate the devices and > processes that have been used by others. The workshop will be based > around hands on > demonstrations of a range of systems (physical interfaces and video > sensing devices) and > the technical overview required to build them. > 1 DAY 10.30-5PM, COST £35/£105 + VAT > > BEYOND THE MOUSE MAKING ALTERNATIVE INTERFACES > 02 FEBRUARY 2007 | TUTOR: STEVE SYMONS > This one-day practical workshop will focus on the electronics (and > coding) required to > turn objects and small spaces into interactive systems. > It is aimed at the practitioner/trainer with working knowledge of > Director or MAX/MSP > and an awareness of the possibilities of alternative interface > systems. Participants should > bring a small number of short Quicktime Movies or sounds with them > on a CDROM. > > To book please contact newtools(a)fact.co.uk or 0151 707 4433 _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 19 Jan '07

19 Jan '07

(let's keep this on the list since it's of interest to others) That's odd, so I guess it is hard to pin down. Do you have an example patch that you used to test it? .hc On Jan 18, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Miguel Cardoso wrote: > delread~ and delwrite~work great on my macintel > > using test7 on macbookpro > > > > On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:19 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> >> Strange, works for me on Mac OS X 10.4.8/PowerPC/G4. Any other >> Mac/Intel users? >> >> .hc >> >> On Jan 14, 2007, at 3:04 PM, dafydd hughes wrote: >> >>> Hey Hans-Christoph >>> >>> Just installed test 7 on a MacBook Core 2 >>> >>> Are delwrite~/delread~/vd~ broken? I can't get any sound from >>> them... >>> Maybe I'm missing something specific to the new computer. >>> >>> cheers >>> dafydd >>> >>> On 1/6/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok, this should be approaching release readiness, let's stress >>>> test! >>>> This is the last test release before release candidates, so report >>>> bugs now! >>>> >>>> * Gem should be installed and working on all platforms >>>> * the MSD (Mass-Spring-Damper) externals are included >>>> * included Thomas Grill's Mac/Intel fixes for iemlib and >>>> cyclone >>>> * Universal binaries for flext externals >>>> * working 10.3 build >>>> >>>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have >>>> three >>>> meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their >>>> minds, >>>> and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin >>>> Luther King, Jr. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PD-announce mailing list >>>> PD-announce(a)iem.at >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>>> listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.sideshowmedia.ca >>> skype: chickeninthegrass >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a >> more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in >> practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity." -John Gilmore

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