Pd-list September 2006

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creb compilation error woes
by Thomas Greg Corcoran 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

Dear pd-list, I am having a nice time with pd. I just suffer this sort of thing when I try to make the creb 0.90 external under ubuntu (which is just debian-linux-stuff I guess) I type this in terminal after doing $/./configure in the creb directory i unpacked from tarball: $/make ****************then output is as follows************************** make -C system make[1]: Entering directory `/home/thomasgreg/creb-0.9.0/system' cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o setup.o -c setup.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o envelope_util.o -c envelope_util.c make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/thomasgreg/creb-0.9.0/system' make -C modules make[1]: Entering directory `/home/thomasgreg/creb-0.9.0/modules' cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o ead.o -c ead.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o ear.o -c ear.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o eadsr.o -c eadsr.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o dist.o -c dist.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o tabreadmix.o -c tabreadmix.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o xfm.o -c xfm.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o qmult.o -c qmult.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o qnorm.o -c qnorm.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o cheby.o -c cheby.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o abs.o -c abs.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o ramp.o -c ramp.c cc -DPD -DCREB_VERSION=\"0.9.0\" -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -INONE/pd/src -I../include -I../include/dspi -o dwt.o -c dwt.c cc1: warnings being treated as errors dwt.c: In function 'dwt_permutation': dwt.c:193: warning: format '%d' expects type 'int', but argument 2 has type 't_int' dwt.c:193: warning: format '%d' expects type 'int', but argument 3 has type 'long int' dwt.c:195: warning: format '%d' expects type 'int', but argument 2 has type 't_int' dwt.c:195: warning: format '%d' expects type 'int', but argument 3 has type 'long int' dwt.c: In function 'dwt_filter': dwt.c:243: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type dwt.c:248: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type make[1]: *** [dwt.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/thomasgreg/creb-0.9.0/modules' make: *** [current] Error 2 ************************************************************************* so I dunno... .. a fellow called Pun Chik posted this problem a while ago (december 2004) .. but there was no solution... maybe it is such a silly problem that is easily overcome.. (none-the-less it be wrecking my head more than the usual linux woe.) If anybody has some idea I am very much appreciating.. Thanks-a-million, Thomasgregory.

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Re: [PD] pd externals load/unload
by alberto.zin＠poste.it 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

Hi Thomas, Your answers raised me one more (simple?) question: If I want to load the whole PD exec in the debugger I imagine that PD must be compiled with the "debug" flag (-g for gcc) activated, am I correct? At the moment I didn't try to compile PD from the sources yet (I use the H.C.S. extended precompiled version on both Linux and WinXP, that I don't think are compiled with -g ...) Thanks, Alberto Thomas Grill wrote: Hi Alberto, > Q1: suppose I'm working on an external: > start pd, load it, control its behaviour, destroy it, > change the code, recompile it, replace it > *in the same session of PD*: is this supposed > to crash pd? > This happens to me, and the external debugging process means > open/close pd million times (number varies according > to coding skills ;-) Are there shortcuts to this? > it won't crash pd, because once an object (with a certain name) is loaded, it won't be loaded again in the same session. The code stays active until you restart pd. The OS will decide if you can replace the binary file of the external object in use. I think Windows doesn't allow that. > Q2: If I have two externals with the same name, one > in the same directory of the opened patch > (which contains an instantiation of it) and the > other in the pd search path, which one is loaded? you can use -verbose to see the search order. I think the one in the patcher dir is loaded first, but i'm just guessing.... greetings, Thomas -- Thomas Grill http://grrrr.org Alberto Zin http://puredata.org/Members/AlbertoZ

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Survey on Musical Instruments
by altern 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

"Survey on Musical Instruments" [with apologies of cross posting] *To all musicians (acoustic and digital instrumentalists) and composers* We are doing a little survey on people's relationship with their instruments and tools. It is a comparative study of the differences between acoustic and digital instruments from the perspective of usability or ergonomics. Amongst many other things, we are interested in the experience of playing or composing for the different instruments, but also people's views on how the instrument/tool affects the musical ideas and what can be played/composed. Please help us to get an understanding of these issues by filling out the following survey: http://www.ixi-software.net/survey We will of course present our findings when processed with a research paper and online presentations. Thanks in advance. the ixi team

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OT: Computer music grad school
by Chuckk Hubbard 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

Hi. I am entering senior year as a composition major, at Univ Arts in Philly. I'm interested in going to grad school for computer music, and I want a little more of a challenge. I like freedom to pursue lots of things, but at my current school that has meant pursuing things the faculty can't really help me with. Ideally, I want a good mix of computer and musical studies. I am interested in learning all I can about computers, but I don't want to abandon "traditional" things like melody and themes. I've tried to learn C in the past, but I can't justify spending lots of time on it while studying here. It's mostly live performances, and mostly jazz, here. I've checked out some stuff about UCSD, and their including of music cognition as an actual field of study is great, it's my other favorite subject. Not so big on algorithmic composition, but I'd be curious. Does anyone have any recommendations for other places I should check out? I'm willing to relocate, considering I would probably have to. Thanks. -Chuckk -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt

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[PD-announce] pd 0.40 test 03 released
by Miller Puckette 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

Hi all, The first test version of Pd 0.40 (test03) is out on the usual: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm cheers Miller _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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how to open/close a pd-subpatch with a bang?
by pd 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

hi list, how can i open/close a pd-subpatch with a bang? thanks a lot, steve.

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Does sysexout works on linux?
by Stephane ANGOT 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

Hi, I'm trying to send a sysex from pd to my keyboard controller. Does anyone has success in a such operation? Thanks, Stephane.

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(no subject)
by Georg Holzmann 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

Hallo! > I was really happy to see it work finally! > > however... > after a few minutes pd crashes :s > > here are a few observations: > > flatspace: can't load library in C:/pd > what is 'flatspace'? > [import] loaded library: flatspace this is only from H.C.S. namespace idea - you can ignore the error message ! > Now it works! > everything is functional for a while, but then pd crashes. > > I try again... > It works, > if i send |close( to arduino while running, i get: > > Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line > WriteFile error: 6 > > sending it |open 7( again it continues to work as if nothing happened. > after 10 minutes, pd crashes again... > I can't copy paste the windows error report... hm - this seems to be a problem with comport on windows - do you have the latest comport for windows ? I had it running here on linux over a day - but I saw a similar error message on an other linux pc too, then restarting the computer helped ... LG Georg -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal fÃ¼r Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer

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searching for externals in OSX
by Chuckk Hubbard 10 Sep '06

10 Sep '06

I made a Windows installer for my alternate-tuning sequencer, so that folks can just install and then run a batch file to use my program, without having to open Pd separately. The tuning folks seem to like it :) I'm trying to do the same thing for OSX now. I don't want much; I figured I'd just load the externals I'm using into the Extra folder in the Pd-0.39-2.app I already have, and when they open my patch the necessary objects will be found. I actually have pd_darwin files with the names of all the objects themselves, so, if I understand correctly, I should be able to just open the patch and it will search for whatever.pd_darwin in the Extra folder. But for some reason [active] and [tot] aren't loading right. I get a message saying: active ... couldn't create link error 0 dyld: /Users/chuckk/Documents/Pd-0.39-2.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../bin/pd multiple definitions of symbol _hammergui_bindfocus then two messages referencing the tot.pd_darwin definition of symbol _hammergui_bindfocus and the active.pd_darwin definition of the same thing. Am I going about this wrong? I looked up OSX shell files online, and it seems they always have to be called from a terminal. I'd sooner explain how to open Pd and load my patch than to explain how to find a terminal window and type in the shell file name. -Chuckk -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt

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gem: resize a texture / buffering textures
by Thoralf Schulze 09 Sep '06

09 Sep '06

hi there, with regard to this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-09/041759.html - is there a way to resize a texture in gem? i'm aware of pix_resize, but this object is slow as hell and only resizes to the next power of two. i'm looking for something that does a fast resize to an arbitrary size - my plan is to cut the time it takes the pix_buffer-objects to store and recall textures. on a related note: is it possible to buffer textures created by pix_buffer_read so that the texture will only be updated if the content of the buffer has actually changed? i figured that it might be enough to only snap every 4th frame and use a buffered version of the textures for the other render cycles ... but pix_buffer_read does the texture upload every render cycle, and i couldn't get pix_buf to actually buffer a texture ... i'm probably making not much sense here, please have a look at the attached patch to see what i'm up to. thank you very much for your input, thoralf. ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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