Pd-list August 2006

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Problem with linuxevent object.
by Diego Azar 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

Hi, I'm having a problem with the PureData objects linuxmouse and linuxevents on Agnula 1.3.0 while opening /dev/input/event$; it fails. I use to have this problem in pd 0.38 in agnula 1.2.1, but the problem was that I needed root permission to access it. But now it even fail while logged on as root. Any one know something I could do? Thanks, Diego. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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my "microtonal" sequencer
by Chuckk Hubbard 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

OK, here goes... This patch is for composing in extended just intonation tunings. The idea is that every interval between two notes is based on a small integer ratio of the frequencies. DO is always 1/1, and in my program this starts as middle C. Csound and Scala both have text-based score formats for writing this way, in which any arbitrary frequency can be used; I made this for a couple of reasons. Mainly, you can enter JI (just intonation) notes with the mouse and see them on the screen. Of course, you could do this with any sequencer, if you fed it a series of samples that were pretuned to just ratios. But with my program, you can transpose the whole score to a new "1/1" with one keystroke, allowing you to sequence themes, modulate, etc, without having to do all the fraction multiplication. If you don't feel like going through all this, at least try opening a few of the scores I included. The actual scores are the .ji files. The instructions for using it are pretty dense. Here's a primer, and I'll see if I can write it up more conciselyl later. _LIBRARIES_ The patch uses toxy, cyclone, and zexy. _OPERATION_ The patch to open is JI.pd. This should open a control window and a blank score. The 8 "JIvoice" abstractions in the main control window are the instruments. Each has a different color, since they are all on the same spread. The numberbox next to each JIvoice is for assigning MIDI program numbers to colors. The vertical radio buttons are for selecting which voice to add to the score. The colored toggles right next to the JIvoice abstractions were to be for muting, but this hasn't yet been implemented. Underneath the JIvoice boxes is a horizontal radio with three options. MIDI turns off all audio processing and sends pitch bends, program changes, and notes to MIDI out; this won't work with any softsynths I know, because each note is sent to a different channel. It will only work with samplers or soundfonts. By default, PD output is turned on, and audio is on. This will generate audio according to the parameters for each voice: click on a JIvoice to see the parameters. The only thing I'll say about this window is that the FOF parameters at the bottom are only set up for MIDI control as of now; changing the numbers manually won't work. The only other thing I'll say is that the preset system has been getting jiggy with it... use caution if you use presets. They are saved in the .prs file with the same name as the .ji file for each score. To open a piece, click on the symbol box under "Filename" in the upper right. Type in, for instance, "sonata04rondo" and hit enter, then click the "load" messagebox. You should see the score for the 4th movement of my JI sonata. Next click on the gray and purple JIvoice boxes in turn, and play with some of the parameters. Just make sure there is some kind of waveform in the box. Click the PLAY toggle in either the main window or a JIvoice panel. Music. _TRANSPORT_ The buttons should be self-explanatory. To record to an audio file, select wave or AIFF under the RECORD button. Type the name for the output file, hit enter, and hit RECORD/STOP once. The num2 GUIs in the middle of the main window show the time in minutes and seconds for PLAY, but not for RECORD The transport can be controlled with the keyboard. Control-I starts playback, and "I" alone stops it. Control-PageUp moves the playback cursor back one quarter-note, and Ctl-PageDown moves it forward one quarter note. Clt-Home moves the playback cursor to the beginning. Under Windows, Ctl-Help and Ctl-Delete move the cursor forward and back by 4 quarter notes at a time. _SCORE EDITING_ This is the main reason for this patch to exist. With the main window active, switch to the score window. This should enable the mouse control. The important keys to know: Q: prepares the mouse cursor to enter notes. You should see a black preview note jump to the mouse when you hit Q, and it cycles through common note ratios when you move the mouse. If you now click the mouse, you create a note. E: disables note entry so it's safe to click on the score, and sets the score window to edit mode. You can now select wrong notes and delete them, or whatever. Ex2: hitting E again returns from edit mode, but does not prepare the score for editing. This way, you can drag on the right end of a note line and change the duration. Hit Q again to enter more notes. 1-0: the number keys change the duration of the preview note. Shift+1-8: Shift and numbers 1-8 changes the voice to be entered, as well as the color of the preview note. T: the most important one of all. This causes the entire score to transpose to the key of the preview note; whatever ratio is showing by the mouse cursor will become 1/1 and the whole score changes to reflect the new DO (not an abbreviation... DO as in "a female deer"). G: also important. If you accidentally hit T without looking, or go through a series of changes and lose track of the original key, G will return the entire score to 1/1 = Middle C. Y and H: Y and H change the volume of the note to be added. You will see the small vertical block on the preview note increase or decrease. , and . OR < and >: these change the rhythmic quantizing of the preview note placement. < snaps to 1/6 of a quarter note, and > snaps to 1/4 of a quarter note. All of the score editing is enabled by the toxy external. So have it. _MEASURES_ This only works from the main window. To the right and just down from the main Volume, select the number of measures to add, and underneat that, select the time signature. Hit the button to the right of the number-of-measures-to-add to add them. Hit Clear if you want to remove all of them. Changing existing measures is a biaiaitch at this point. Not sure how to fix it. _TEMPO_ The 'Add Breakpoint' button will insert a tempo marker with the current value wherever the playback cursor is. It will be relative to whatever note value you select to the right, but this will not be visible in the score. Also, only exponential tempo currently works. I came up with a solution to make the tempo change exponentially, and never got around to reconnecting the linear tempo change. "Ignore Tempos" will playback a score at whatever speed you select, instead of what the markers say. _MIXING_ Open pd mixer if you like, it's hiding to the right of the Tempo section of the main window. _CAUTIONS_ There are many other features that I created and don't use much anymore, or just aren't as essential. Experiment, but save your stuff if you come up with anything you like. The save feature won't ask about overwriting, so make sure you type a new name for each file before saving. The zoom has worked and not worked correctly at various stages; everything I added after the zoom had to incorporate a sort of "zoom cosmological constant" called "zoomfact", and I can't guarantee I put it everywhere it should be. The "EDIT THE SCORE" section is pretty much replaced by mouse editing. It still works; it highlights individual notes in red... but sometimes leaves them red. That whole section is scary. The selecting/copy/paste/move/transpose section is also scary, but a little more reliable. It reads the location of the playback cursor and selects what's between the Start and End spots. This "transpose" function actually changes the heights and pitches of the selected notes, instead of just the ratio names. _BIG BIG CAUTION_ The worst thing you can do is edit the patch itself and save it while a score is open. The preset memory function stores the entire waveform for each preset added in memory, and if you save the patch it will grow in size giamongously. If this happens, edit JI.pd in a text editor and remove everything between "canvas .... presetmemory" and "restore .... presetmemory", and between "canvas ..... score" and "restore ..... score". If you edit the patch itself, I suggest closing it using the "Close" messagebox to the right of the Zoom function. This clears the presets and score, and saves and closes the patch. _LICENSE_ You may not become a millionaire off of my JI scoring idea and not split it with me. Pretty much anything else is okay. Unless you're already a millionaire, in which case you must pay me to write music. -Chuckk -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt

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[urn] in Zexy vs. [urn] in maxlib, cyclone and Max/MSP
by Frank Barknecht 12 Sep '06

12 Sep '06

Hi, while porting RTC-lib, I've found, that the [urn] object in Zexy behaves slightly different from the one used in Max, Maxlib and Cyclone. The difference is small but can be nasty: [urn] in Max, maxlib and cyclone does not send out a random number if the urn is empty and the right outlet bangs. To clear the [urn] and start with a fresh supply, one has to manually send a "clear" message in Max. [urn] in zexy however does send the new nummber directly and also automatically clears the urn. There seems to be an undocumented "noauto" flag in zexy-urn to control this behaviour. This flag defaults to "automatic", but I would suggest to make it default to the "manual" mode as in the other three [urn]s use to avoid confusion. Nameclashes are bad only, if the behaviour you get differs. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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how to open max patches via cyclone??
by Kevin McCoy 12 Sep '06

12 Sep '06

Hello list, I am sure this has come up before, but I have max patches that I cannot get to open under pd-extended .38 for OS X. I haven't tried it on Linux yet. None of them will open. I read that cyclone should be able to read both binaries and text files... can someone walk me through this, or is there a wiki or how-to somewhere? I searched the list and couldn't find anything. When I try to open one, renamed to pat, Pd does... nothing. The open dialog closes and nothing happens. Help appreciated! And cheers to Frank for his work on RTC-lib! I have the cyclone library enabled along with zexy and a couple others. Kevin

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joypad rumble
by Max Neupert 12 Sep '06

12 Sep '06

hi list, i've got an saitek impact joypad here and it works nicely with hcs [hid]. i was wondering if there is any way to get the human output device to work too (the “rumbling” vibration feedback motors function). thx, m.

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OT: Computer music grad school
by Chuckk Hubbard 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

Hi. I am entering senior year as a composition major, at Univ Arts in Philly. I'm interested in going to grad school for computer music, and I want a little more of a challenge. I like freedom to pursue lots of things, but at my current school that has meant pursuing things the faculty can't really help me with. Ideally, I want a good mix of computer and musical studies. I am interested in learning all I can about computers, but I don't want to abandon "traditional" things like melody and themes. I've tried to learn C in the past, but I can't justify spending lots of time on it while studying here. It's mostly live performances, and mostly jazz, here. I've checked out some stuff about UCSD, and their including of music cognition as an actual field of study is great, it's my other favorite subject. Not so big on algorithmic composition, but I'd be curious. Does anyone have any recommendations for other places I should check out? I'm willing to relocate, considering I would probably have to. Thanks. -Chuckk -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt

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[PD-announce] pd 0.40 test 03 released
by Miller Puckette 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

Hi all, The first test version of Pd 0.40 (test03) is out on the usual: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm cheers Miller _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[popup] disappearing with "new" GoP standard thingie
by David NG McCallum 08 Sep '06

08 Sep '06

Howdy, I've just started fiddling around with the versions of Pd past the point where the outline was added where you can see the GoP space of a patch. I recently resaved an old abstraction with Ben Bogart's [popup] in it and now the popup doesn't show up in the GoP. Any ideas? Running .40-0t04 on an Intel Mac. mactel. D -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org

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data structures - color?
by João Miguel Pais 08 Sep '06

08 Sep '06

I just made a patch to see which colors are available in the data structures. it seems that they're not the same as in the normal pd scheme, and that they repeat themselves. is it normal that colors 0 == 100 == 200 == 300, 400 == 500 and 600 == 700? wouldn't it be useful for all color schemes to be synchronised? JoÃ£o -- Lugostr. 14 79100 Freiburg i. Br. Deutschland +49 (0)761 7074997 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp

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pix_freeframe
by Max Neupert 08 Sep '06

08 Sep '06

hi list, is the [pix_freeframe] working only with .frf files? on the freeframe.org site the majority of filters are there as .dll files. anyone working with those freeframe plugins? the site looks a bit out of date. is this a dead project? thanks, m.

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