Pd-list May 2006

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toxy alpha19 on winxp
by patco 10 May '06

10 May '06

Hello I've tried extended 0.39-2 test3 and toxy doesn't work, I've replaced this alpha19 dll version with the alpha15 available in miXed site, and it works fine, even the multiscale widget that didn't work before. thanks for all other improvements in extended (help browser, new libraries) patco. --------------------------------- Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services prÃ©fÃ©rÃ©s : vÃ©rifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualitÃ© en temps rÃ©el. Cliquez ici.

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Re: [PD] amplitude of modal synthesis
by frablanc 10 May '06

10 May '06

Sorry, me again.... For some reasons (non identified), the abstraction [modale2] seems not to work properly, so i re-send the original abstraction in a "triggered" version. Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34 /mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn)

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Pd stuck at launching on Terminal
by Sylvain Le Beux 10 May '06

10 May '06

Hi all, I have been installing Pd 0.39.2 from the src files (from MSP home) on Mac OS X and everything just work fine for compiling but as I try to launch the 'pd ' command in a terminal, it seems to get stuck and nothing happens... I am then ought to stop execution by a double Ctrl+c command during which some closing messages (whereas nothing before) appear. Here's exactly what I get on Terminal window : kecak:/Applications/pd-0.39-2/src slebeux$ pd *(blocked) (1rst Ctrl+C)* ^CPd: signal 2 Pd: signal 2 closing audio... closing MIDI... closing audio... ... done. kecak:/Applications/pd-0.39-2/src slebeux$ closing MIDI... ... done. *(2nd Ctrl+C)* kecak:/Applications/pd-0.39-2/src slebeux$ Has anyone an idea of what going wrong ? Any help appreciated. (And, of course, do not advise me to get binaries : I want to be able to run it from Terminal after compiling) Sylvain

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Re: [PD] amplitude of modal synthesis
by frablanc 10 May '06

10 May '06

Hello, Of course, you can steal it. I agree with the trigger thing (and i also had fun with your patch !), and Cyrille made corrections. I send it back with the amplitude correction. Have fun! FranÃ§ois. > Hallo, > frablanc hat gesagt: // frablanc wrote: > > > Finally, i solved the problem in a quite empiric way, but it > > seems to work ... I agree, it deserves a lot of cleaning, i > > put a lot of [bang] to be shure that the coefficients are right... > > > > I send the final abstraction, and a patch which uses it. It's > > quite fun and i think it sounds great ! ;-) > > Yes, it sound really wonderful I like it a lot (so much I'll steal it, > if you don't mind ;) > > Only with the execution order you still didn't get it right. it might > work now, but as soon as you do some further editing it *will* break. > Better fix it now. The [bang] objects don't help at all, let me > explain why: Every "connection fanning" in your patch still has an > undefined order. If two or more connections come out of a message > outlet, you cannot tell which one will fire first. If order is > important, and it practically *always* is, then you must use a trigger > object instead of connection fanning. > > So you should generally avoid more than one connection coming out of a > single message outlet. It's trouble waiting to happen, you don't want > to marry such patches. > > Attached patch shows some of the things that can go wrong with > connection fanning. > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34 /mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn)

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Gem Fragmentor
by timon 10 May '06

10 May '06

Hi, are there any objects in gem that can fragment an image or model into cubes or similar? Thanks Timon.

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cyclone prepend crash
by marius schebella 10 May '06

10 May '06

hi, pd crashes when I use cyclones [prepend] on xp with pd-0.39.2-extended-test3 version (for example sending the outlet of prepend to a [print]). For now, I will use the prepend from cxc instead. Has anyone else that problem? marius.

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osc objects
by Martin Peach 10 May '06

10 May '06

I've posted source and dlls for [routeOSC], [packOSC], and [unpackOSC] here: http://puredata.info/Members/martinrp/OSCobjects They work with [udpsend] and [udpreceive] or [tcpsend] and [tcpreceive] which are here: http://puredata.info/Members/martinrp/netobjects They could probably also work to send OSC messages through [comport] if some kind of length was prepended to the list, otherwise comport doesn't know how long the message is. Also MIDI could work if there was a way to pack 8bits into 7bits for system exclusive. routeOSC is settable using messages like [set /path/one /path/two( ...but you can't set more paths than were in the original arguments of the object. Martin

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[Pdmtl] pdmtl#20 (fwd)
by Mathieu Bouchard 10 May '06

10 May '06

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 19:52:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)artengine.ca> To: pdmtl(a)artengine.ca Subject: [Pdmtl] pdmtl#20 .-------------------------. | Le dimanche 14 mai 2006 | | 13:00 à 17:00 | `-o-----------------------' | ,-o---------------------. | PUREDATA MONTRÉAL #20 | `-o---------------------' | [t a a]-----. | | ,-o-----, ,-o-----------------------------------, | $0 / | ; at Vidéographe-PARC / | \ | 4550 Garnier, corner of Mont-Royal \ `-o-----` `-------------------------------------` | [t a a] | | | .-o------------------------------ -------- ----- --- -- - - | | Sara Kolster and Derek Holzer have toured their "resonanCITY" | | audiovisual performance to festivals and artist-run centers across | | Europe, Canada, the US and Brazil. This performance was created with | | Pure Data and GEM, and uses found objects, medium format | | photography, field recordings and digital synthesis in a realtime, | | improvised setting to create a live cinema experience something | | between a dream and a roadtrip. Kolster and Holzer will discuss the | | PD and GEM programming behind "resonanCITY" and perform a short | | improvisation for the PD Montreal meeting. | `-o------------------------------ -------- ----- --- -- - - | | | [s bios] | [t a a] | | | .-o------------------------------ -------- ----- --- -- - - | | Alexandre Castonguay & Mathieu Bouchard présentent Éléments, | | qui a été exposé au Musée d'Art Contemporain de Montréal de | | septembre 2005 à janvier 2006. Il sera question des parties | | matérielles (contrôleurs DMX et projecteurs DIY), des parties | | logicielles (patches PureData/GridFlow) et des intentions | | artistiques. | `-o------------------------------ -------- ----- --- -- - - | [t a a] | | | .-o------------------------------ -------- ----- --- -- - - | | Discussion de groupe sur une éventuelle PureData Convention | | Montréal 2007, se présentant comme une suite de PureData | | Convention Graz 2004. Réflexion sur la forme que la | | Convention devrait prendre et presentation des contacts | | établis à ce jour. Discussion du rôle de pdmtl et de la | | coordination possible avec New York dans la tenue de | | l'evenement. | `-o------------------------------ -------- ----- --- -- - - | ,-o-----, | ; pd / | quit \ `-o-----` [r bios] | -o------------------------------ -------- ----- --- -- - - Kolster [NL 1978] is a video and media artist with a background in web / graphical design and web-based projects. The focus of her work shifted more towards video and film; capturing details from urban locations, visualizing fragments of stories of these environments. She uses different strategies, from time-based media (video, film) to appropriated research methods belonging to different observational disciplines (journalism, documentary & archeology). Recently, her work concentrates on the integration of sound and image, using different techniques - from medium format slides, 16 & 35 millimeter film and video to database-systems, live processing programs such as Pure-Data and web-interfaces. "I choose my images carefully, with a main focus on details and close-ups. The camera observes, looking for stories behind objects and locations. In my work, I emphasize the uninhabited environment in which human appearance seems to be even more accentuated. This environment, obviously designed by humans, shows inevitably their traces. Questions such as who lived there or what has happened, I leave to be answered by the viewer." Sara Kolster is supported during 2005-6 by the Fonds voor Beeldende Kunsten Vormgeving en Bouwkunst (Fonds BKVB) of The Netherlands. ---------------------------- Derek Holzer [USA 1972] is a sound artist with a background in radio, webstreaming and environmental recording. His work focuses on capturing and transforming small, unnoticed sounds from various natural and urban locations, networked collaboration strategies, experiments in improvisational sound and the use of free software such as Pure-Data. He has released tracks under the Nexsound, Sirr, and/OAR and Gruenrekorder labels, and has co-initiated several internet projects for field recording and collaborative soundscapes including Soundtransit.nl. Holzer has been using and teaching Pure Data for the last 5 years. "One of the central concepts of my work is that every object and space around us is a recorder. Each one has collected the resonances of its surroundings for as long as it has existed. You could call it an acoustic version of particle physics or genetics, because the idea remains the same--in the smallest details you will find a representation of the greater whole. My task as a sound artist is often just to listen, and to listen very closely, to the histories hidden inside our everyday world." Derek Holzer is supported during 2005-7 by Fonds voor Beeldende Kunsten Vormgeving en Bouwkunst (Fonds BKVB) of The Netherlands. _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada _______________________________________________ Pdmtl mailing list Pdmtl(a)artengine.ca http://ns.artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/pdmtl

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Re: [PD] Re: [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test3
by patco 09 May '06

09 May '06

Hi, >From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > >Date: May 9, 2006 > >But in general, when an object is missing from a library in Pd- >extended, that's a bug in the build system. I made a Pd-extended >category for bugs, so please submit all such bugs there. The memento examples doesn't work with pd-extended-0.39 test 3 but it's alright with the last Miller's version. Also since i've installed extended 0.39 test 3, my objects that uses widget doesn't work anymore in both versions unless I open the toxy test patches first. I guess it's a problem with setup.wid but in that case, why did it work correctly before I've installed extended test 3? I've mentionned before that I had to replace toxy alpha19 with the alpha15 because it wasn't working at all. (my objects also doesn't work on linux because toxy doesn't understand "INI" and almost all my objects with widgets are customized with a INI message) thanks for attention patco --------------------------------- Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services prÃ©fÃ©rÃ©s : vÃ©rifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualitÃ© en temps rÃ©el. Cliquez ici.

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splitting a symbol into individual characters & ascii
by Thomas Ouellet Fredericks 09 May '06

09 May '06

I am trying to make a pair of abstractions for serial communication: 1) pd2ascii: converts any message into ascii codes 2) ascii2pd: converts ascii codes into any message ascii2pd is done and working, but pd2ascii is difficult to implement because there is no efficient way to split a symbol into it's individual elements as in converting symbol bob into list b o b I tried: 1) ascii library but it is not maintained anymore and has some bugs. 2) ascseq but it is scheduled so structures like the following are impossible: [AAAA< | [t b a] | \ | \ [13< [ascseq 0] | / [print] It will output "65,13,65,65,65" instead of the expected "65,65,65,65,13" 3) Toxy but it suffers the same limitations as ascseq Anyone have any suggestions for try number 4? Tom

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