Pd-list May 2006

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Gem, blocked pipes on OSX
by timon 12 May '06

12 May '06

Hi, I have been running HC's PD 0.38.04 Extended RC-7 for some time and its been performing like a DREAM! Two days ago I installed PD 0.39.2 extended test 3. Since then both versions have meed performing very poorly (at least in comparison to before). In the past, when there has been an issue like this I have been able to go back and use the older version. Unlike before, the older version perform just as bad. Also when doing pix_grabs the whole machine stutters (Finder as well as PD). I have zapped the P ram without any success. It appears as the machine is freezing up while the Gem window does its stuff, like the pipes are blocked. Is there anything I can do to fix it? In General 10.4.6 is really shit, and Im not allowed to downgrade to 10.4.5. Any suggestions are WELCOME! Thanks Timon.

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GEM: pix_write on Windows, HELP!
by David Powers 12 May '06

12 May '06

Hello, Does pix_write work on Windows? Can someone provide me a working example? I can get it to write a jpg or tif, but for some reason, all I ever get is something that is solid black. The documention is poor for this object, but I'm using settings like [pix_write 0 0 400 400] which gives me a 400x400 black square. I tried putting it in the chain like this: [pix_image] l [pix_write] l [pix_texture] and this: [pix_image] l [pix_texture] l [pix_write] This REALLY bugs me - I have to use an outboard screen capture to get GEM images otherwise, which: a) means I'd have to advance frame by frame and click each time to make a movie and b) means I have to open Gimp and crop out the GEM window borders for every shot. ~David

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tcpclient
by Martin Peach 11 May '06

11 May '06

For anyone interested in playing with tcp, I have uploaded a first try at [tcpclient] here: http://puredata.info/Members/martinrp/netobjects along with a help patch. It's based on Olaf Matthes' [netclient] but like my other net objects, works with bytes instead of pd messages. Please let me know if you have any problems or feature requests. Note that if you you try [print] -ing a long (kB) message as output by [tcpclient] (like a webpage) pd will hang for several minutes probably because of the pd-tcl bottleneck...it's probably more useful for short messages such as OSC or telnet. The [dump 1( message will print received data to the main window and is much faster. Martin

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Re: [PD] Graph embedding with PMPD
by Tim Boykett 11 May '06

11 May '06

Well, not quite sure about that smiley, but the small experiments I have done using a spring-type relaxation embedding system have worked really quite well. So it seems to work. Of course I am asking a bit much, it's what I always do :-> summary: pmpd seems to work "really quite well" for graph embedding and I hope someone has done the hard work of making a little package to do it all easily. chrz, tm On May 11, 2006, at 1:59 PM, adam wrote: > yer asking a bit much arent ya? ;) > > adam > > > ..on Thu, May 11, 2006 at 01:50:54PM +0200, Tim Boykett wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> >> has anyone developed patches to do graph embedding using the >> pmpd objects? I have been playing with some and before I dive >> in too deep, I thought it would be good to see whether someone else >> has >> already done the hard work and has some lovely patches to be used. >> >> If not, then I will have to share mine..... >> >> cheers, >> >> tim >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > -- > > > > Adam Hyde > ~/.nl > > selected projects > http://www.xs4all.nl/~adam > > the streaming suitcase > http://www.streamingsuitcase.com > > r a d i o q u a l i a > http://www.radioqualia.net > > Free as in 'media' > email : adam(a)xs4all.nl > mobile : + 31 6 186 75 356 (Netherlands mobile) > > ----- Tim Boykett TIME'S UP::Research Department \ / Industriezeile 33b A-4020 Linz Austria X +43-732-787804(ph) +43-732-7878043(fx) / \ tim(a)timesup.org http://www.timesup.org ----- http://www.timesup.org/fieldresearch/setups/index.html

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Graph embedding with PMPD
by Tim Boykett 11 May '06

11 May '06

Hello, has anyone developed patches to do graph embedding using the pmpd objects? I have been playing with some and before I dive in too deep, I thought it would be good to see whether someone else has already done the hard work and has some lovely patches to be used. If not, then I will have to share mine..... cheers, tim

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starting pd-extended from terminal
by B. Bogart 11 May '06

11 May '06

Hey all, So I want to run pd on OSX from the terminal. Running the MacOS/Pd binary works, but ignores any arguments. the Resources/bin/pd binary does not seem to find the tk stuff: ESMAC001:~/Desktop/Ben lpine$ /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -open menu-bartest.pd dyld: /Applications/Wish Shell.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish Shell version mismatch for library: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Tcl (compatibility version of user: 8.5.0 greater than library's version: 8.4.0) So for now I'll just copy the frameworks from pd-extended into the system frameworks, but it would be nice in the future that the bin/pd binary knows how to find the frameworks in the .app. Alas that does not work either: ESMAC001:/Library/Frameworks lpine$ /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -open menu-bartest.pd dyld: /Applications/Wish Shell.app/Contents/MacOS/Wish Shell can't open library: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Tcl (No such file or directory, errno = 2) I just copied the tcl/tk frameworks from pd-extended into the /Library. Thanks all. .b.

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Gem: Change blending mode ?
by Alexandre Quessy 11 May '06

11 May '06

Hi list, I am much playing around with alpha blending in Gem these days and I was wondering how I could change the default blending mode between geos. I think it is feasable with openGL objects, but there are only two openGL examples in the example/help patches. The default blending mode between geos is "add". I would like to set it to "multiply" in some cases and "mask", so that when we are viewing a geo with a pix texture on it, we don't see the other geos' pix textures behind it ? I am sure this is possible. How ? regards, aalex

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memory with native objects
by patco 10 May '06

10 May '06

hello I am trying to make a memory from scratch I am encountering two problems that maybe someone in the list could resolve. First, my memory object only allows list of numbers, because I am triggering [list] and the cold inlet only allows list of numbers I just don't undrstand why. Second, I would like to find a way to ignore redondant entries of memory index. memory.pd #N canvas 0 0 578 582 10; #X obj 9 12 inlet; #X msg 129 299 \, 1 cat \, 2 cat dog \, 3 test \, 4 5 6 7; #X msg 214 211 addcomma; #X obj 129 140 pp add2; #X msg 183 211 set; #X obj 181 139 spigot 1; #X msg 214 110 0; #X obj 130 108 t b a b b b; #X msg 245 111 1; #X obj 245 88 r \$1-init; #X obj 201 427 ==; #X obj 158 447 spigot; #X obj 158 468 outlet; #X obj 292 216 inlet; #X obj 129 324 list split 1; #X obj 314 47 route clear; #X obj 339 171 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 284 252 t b b b a; #X obj 200 396 f; #X obj 154 422 list; #X connect 0 0 7 0; #X connect 0 0 15 0; #X connect 1 0 14 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 6 0 5 1; #X connect 7 1 3 0; #X connect 7 2 6 0; #X connect 7 3 5 0; #X connect 7 4 2 0; #X connect 8 0 5 1; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 11 1; #X connect 11 0 12 0; #X connect 13 0 17 0; #X connect 14 0 18 1; #X connect 14 1 19 1; #X connect 15 0 16 0; #X connect 16 0 4 0; #X connect 17 0 19 0; #X connect 17 1 18 0; #X connect 17 2 1 0; #X connect 17 3 10 1; #X connect 18 0 10 0; #X connect 19 0 11 0; memory-test.pd #N canvas 0 0 454 304 10; #X obj 215 189 memory; #X msg 149 63 1 cat; #X msg 189 62 2 cat dog; #X msg 126 37 3 test; #X msg 105 14 4 5 6 7; #X msg 390 105 1; #X msg 400 130 2; #X floatatom 404 62 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 266 57 clear; #X obj 221 231 print mem; #X msg 389 168 3; #X msg 391 209 4; #X connect 0 0 9 0; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 0 0; #X connect 4 0 0 0; #X connect 5 0 0 1; #X connect 6 0 0 1; #X connect 7 0 0 1; #X connect 8 0 0 0; #X connect 10 0 0 1; #X connect 11 0 0 1; --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail rÃ©invente le mail ! DÃ©couvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface rÃ©volutionnaire.

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Re: Fwd: another developer
by João Miguel Pais 10 May '06

10 May '06

Hello, I am JoÃ£o Miguel Pais, and some of you might know me from my (mostly) questions in the list. I guess it's part of protocol to tell something about me, so here it is: - I studied composition in Lisbon, London and Freiburg (Germany), where I still live - I worked with Csound, Max-MSP, and later Pd - I am not a C programmer, so my work is in the form of abstractions. Since I am using Pd everytime ofter, I try to implement higher-level objects, so that repeated operations will be easier to do (openfile dialogs, editing GUIs, level metering, etc. etc.). I would like to learn C and go deeper, but I didn't had time/courage until now (but there's still hope). - I work on windows, but am now going slowly to ubuntu (as you might have learned by some angry frustrated mails some weeks ago). - My work plattform is an IBM Thinkpad R51 (1.6 Ghz, 1G RAM), RME Hdspa card + Multiface, Behringer BCF2000, and some other smaller stuff. In windows I worked with the "official" version and maintained it myself, but since I am going to use Pd simultaneously on both win and lin, I'm changing to pd-ext (as it is already post-0.39) - My main interests / uses of Pd nowadays are for my own personal work: with composition (eithter Tape or live-electronics), and improvisation (as part of the Laptop trio Endphase - www.endphase.net) [- To earn money I work nowadys as a notesetter (Sibelius); I am planning on moving to Berlin after the Summer.] - my Pd page is in http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp if any other information is required, let me know. Greetings, JoÃ£o Miguel Pais >> Since we are on the topic, I'd like to propose adding Joao Miguel Pais >> as a developer. I am here in ZÃŒrich working with him, and he's got a >> lot of really nice GOP objects that should be included. >> >> Also, his GUI-edit program made me realize that we should be making all >> of the Properties and Pd-specific app panes in Pd itself. Max does >> this, and I think it makes good sense that Pd should too. >> >> So I'll leave it to Joao to introduce himself and wait for the >> obligatory waiting period.

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0.INTRO.txt as pd patch
by Orm Finnendahl 10 May '06

10 May '06

Hi, enclosed is the "0.INTRO.txt" file from the 5.reference directory converted into a pd patch. I prefer this way of looking at the reference to the text form as it can be used as a content browser for pd's help files in that directory by right clicking on the object boxes. Another advantage is that it becomes obvious, which objects are missing in the running version. In my version (pd-0.39-2), these objects can't get initialized: rmstopow~ powtorms~ scalar scope~ Miller, are there any objections to add this file to the reference? -- Orm

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