Pd-list March 2006

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Problems compiling flext on windowsXP with mingw
by .: monsular :. 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

Helloe! after changing some information in the config files, the compiling works more and more finally. :-/ but at this step, i don't know what to do... do i have to change the header files? why i'm doing this? i want to create an external.. i read so much about this, but i really don't know what to do first before continue with the steps explaines in the how-to of johannes m zmölling. i'm going bananas... here's the post of my cmd: C:\Programme\PureData\flext>build pd mingw mingw32-make -f C:/Programme/PureData/flext/buildsys/gnumake-sub.mak PLATFORM=win RTSYS=pd COMPILER=mingw BUILDPATH=C:/Programme/PureData/flext/buildsys/ PKGINFO=package.txt BUILDCLASS=flext USRCONFIG =config.txt USRMAKE=build/gnumake-win-mingw.inc TARGETMODE=release TARGETTYPE=single _build_ mingw32-make[1]: Entering directory `C:/Programme/PureData/flext' mkdir pd-mingw mkdir pd-mingw\release-single g++ -c -DNDEBUG -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x500 -mms-bitfields -DFLEXT_USE_SIMD -DFLEXT_EXPORTS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -I"C:/Programme/PureData"/src source/flbase.cpp -o pd-mingw\release-single\flbase.opp g++ -c -DNDEBUG -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x500 -mms-bitfields -DFLEXT_USE_SIMD -DFLEXT_EXPORTS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -I"C:/Programme/PureData"/src source/flext.cpp -o pd-mingw\release-single\flext.opp g++ -c -DNDEBUG -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x500 -mms-bitfields -DFLEXT_USE_SIMD -DFLEXT_EXPORTS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -I"C:/Programme/PureData"/src source/flbuf.cpp -o pd-mingw\release-single\flbuf.opp g++ -c -DNDEBUG -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x500 -mms-bitfields -DFLEXT_USE_SIMD -DFLEXT_EXPORTS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -I"C:/Programme/PureData"/src source/fldsp.cpp -o pd-mingw\release-single\fldsp.opp g++ -c -DNDEBUG -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x500 -mms-bitfields -DFLEXT_USE_SIMD -DFLEXT_EXPORTS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -I"C:/Programme/PureData"/src source/fllib.cpp -o pd-mingw\release-single\fllib.opp g++ -c -DNDEBUG -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x500 -mms-bitfields -DFLEXT_USE_SIMD -DFLEXT_EXPORTS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -I"C:/Programme/PureData"/src source/flxlet.cpp -o pd-mingw\release-single\flxlet.opp g++ -c -DNDEBUG -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x500 -mms-bitfields -DFLEXT_USE_SIMD -DFLEXT_EXPORTS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -I"C:/Programme/PureData"/src source/flattr.cpp -o pd-mingw\release-single\flattr.opp g++ -c -DNDEBUG -D_WIN32_WINNT=0x500 -mms-bitfields -DFLEXT_USE_SIMD -DFLEXT_EXPORTS -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -I"C:/Programme/PureData"/src source/flattr_ed.cpp -o pd-mingw\release-single\flattr_ed.opp In file included from source/flattr_ed.cpp:32: C:/Programme/PureData/src/m_imp.h:48: 't_savefn' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. C:/Programme/PureData/src/m_imp.h:49: 't_propertiesfn' is used as a type, butis not defined as a type. mingw32-make[1]: *** [pd-mingw\release-single/flattr_ed.opp] Error 1 mingw32-make[1]: Leaving directory `C:/Programme/PureData/flext' mingw32-make: *** [build-release-single] Error 2

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[Fwd: lopping patch]
by altern 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

i just discovered that the date on my computer was one day behind. I sent this email today before i realised about this error. Maybe some people hasnt read it, so here it goes again. sorry for the ones that already read it... -------- Jatorrziko Mezua -------- Gaia: lopping patch Data: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:26:56 +0100 Nork: altern <altern2(a)gmail.com> Nori: the PureData - mailinglist <pd-list(a)iem.at> hi all i have been developing this patch and i thought someone else could find it useful. The original idea came for a sound installation with a friend few years ago. It can be downloaded from this link (svn server) http://devel.goto10.org/dl.php?repname=ixi&path=%2Fpd%2Fautoloop%2F&rev=0&i… It is a system that takes a sound input, i use either a snd file or adc, and samples it according to set of timers putting the sound into buffers and looping them. So the timers could be like this: 2-5-1 (in secs) and we could use, say 4 layers (buffers). Then it would sample 2 secs into buffer 1 then 5 into buffer 2 then 1 into buffer 3 then 2 into buffer 4, then 5 into buffer 1 again and so on... it keeps cycling unless you stop it. The result is several layers of sound looping independently. Not very good description i know, but maybe you want to use it and see it with your own eyes, then you might one to send me a better description :) I use it for concerts and installations. Let me know if it is helpful or if someone adds something. It is distributed with GPL license. It used both py and xsample externals from Thomas. have fun -- enrike

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accessing mysql database
by Tina Shah 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

Hi, still trying to get used to pd/gem so i've got a couple newbie questions: 1. How do I get average color info of an image? Basically I want to analyze an image and get the most prominent color. I saw some patches like pix_set, dump, histo, but I'm not sure if they are the right ones... I really only want one value, or one RGBA value. 2. I would like to store this value in a mysql database. How do I get pd to send data to a mysql database? I'm so new at all this I really don't know where to start... Once I get a bunch of values in a database, I will want to compare the values of a current image with values in the database. I have looked through the lists at a bunch of things like pool, pd container, osc, postgresql, but I am just getting more confused. I really am just looking for a basic tutorial that will teach me how to get pd to send/receive data from a mysql database. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks! -T

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RE: [PD] more lib to install -- help
by Patrick Pagano 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

for apt-get try sudo apt-cache search Imlib2-dev or sudo apt-cache search imlib2 etc.... then if you find the appropriate one sudo apt-get install foo.* HtH Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2082 -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at]On Behalf Of nicolas.sauret(a)laposte.net Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:00 PM To: pd-list Subject: [PD] more lib to install -- help Hello everybody, trying to run pd with pdp and pidip... I've installed a few library one by one and so far it was ok. I'm now completely stucked with imlib2 that is requested when I launch pd -lib pidip does anyone could guide me to install more efficiently all those lib ? I've tried to install apt-get but it seems I don't use it properly. thanks a lot. I'm under Fedora Core 4. Here are the error message I have : /usr/local/app/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test1-linux-i686/lib/pd/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux: libImlib2.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Basically I don't understand the trick to install this lib. Here is the Readme.txt that comes with imlib2...: "php foo: To use your new extension BUILT IN to php, you will have to execute the following steps: 1. $ cd .. 2. $ vi ext/imlib/config.m4 2b. <you may need to run aclocal here> 3. $ ./buildconf 4. $ ./configure --with-imlib2 5. $ make 6. $ ./php -f ext/imlib/imlib.php 7. $ vi ext/imlib/imlib.c 8. $ make " What is this ?? help .) ++ nicolaos. Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34 EUR/mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34EUR/mn) _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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plugin~ for mac pd-extended
by Libero Mureddu 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

Hi, I would like to know if there is any plan to make the plugin~ object working for mac osx, I'm using the ladspa plugins within ardour, but I'd really need to control them with pd. Not being able to program anything, I'd be happy to help test any solution! Thank you Libero Mureddu mac osx 10.4.4 ibook g4 pd-extended

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Re: [PD] Gerard van Dongen/Gilcher 1967-2006 (Geändert von Thomas Grill)
by Thomas Grill 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

Hi all, sorry for the misrouted email. I'm bewildered about the death of Gerard. He never mentioned his illness while being always positive about preparing a piece for our ensemble. My condolences to his wife and to all who had the chance to meet Gerard personally. all the best, Thomas Am 08.03.2006 um 05:56 schrieb derek holzer: > hmmm, liebe Leute, der holländische Komponist, der was für uns > komponieren wollte, ist leider verstorben... > > --------- > > Gerard van Dongen/Gilcher passed away on Friday the 4th of March, > after a brave battle with colon cancer. Gerard worked as a composer, > musician and computer programmer in Rotterdam as well as played live > with many improvisational and electronic musicians in the Netherlands > including Bart Maris, Tom Wouters, Joe Williamson, Henk Bakker, Peter > van Bergen and Ann LaBerge. He performed solo-concerts with > electronics and/or piano compositions and played for numerous dance > and theatre productions, produced radio-plays for the internet, and > was a technical designer and software programmer for multimedia > theater. Gerard was also an active member of the Pure Data and Linux > Audio Developers communities, and contributed code for the user > interface of the Ardour project. > > Gerard kept a very positive outlook throughout his illness, and he > will certainly be missed. > > Marie Louise Gilcher has organized a memorial service for Thursday, 9 > March at the "Crooswijk" Cemetery in Rotterdam. >

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Re: stability of Gem for video playing
by Rob Munro 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

I have been using GEM on windows for a while now and had crash problems a while back but i have settled on the follwing process and i havent had any crashes lately. 1. using GEM 0.87 (no qt!) 2. encode video to avi using virtualdub with cinepack (400x300) (not a great codec, i know) - because i want position control of the video i encode the video with a keyframe every 1 frame. 3. dimensions of the video should match standard aspect ratio. and be a multiple of 4. I found that the larger the dimensions the more likely a crash (not sure if its bit rate related or something else) but i am using pix_delay in my patch and found if i took that out vids that did crash - didnt crash after removing the pix-delay. And using video with different codecs seemd to make more crashes so i encoded all my video to one codec (cinepack). rm. - Original Message ------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:57:37 -0600 From: "chris clepper" <cgc(a)humboldtblvd.com> Subject: Re: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing To: PD-list(a)iem.at Message-ID: <a8e0bc960603071557u1d1e0280nfe2b42a4c18179e3(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On 3/7/06, David Powers <cyborgk(a)nocturnalnoize.com> wrote: > > Yes, just to be clear, I think on MacOSX and Linux performance may be > much more stable. From what I know the PC version has some problems, > particularly with video playing. Yes, the Windows version 0.90 does crash when loading Quicktime clips. I have done some work to fix this and hopefully the results will be available soon. The other recommendations for Photo-Jpeg on OSX are good ones. cgc

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some doc for envgen
by patco 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

hello, I've made a patch that might help for understanding how to manipulate ggee envgen. https://puredata.info/Members/megale/envgen_help_pat.pd/download Any comment is welcome. Patco ___________________________________________________________________________ Nouveau : tÃ©lÃ©phonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! DÃ©couvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. TÃ©lÃ©chargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com #N canvas 251 166 729 399 12; #X obj 72 189 envgen 200 140 1 0 ; #X floatatom 45 32 5 0 100 0 - - -; #X obj 43 96 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 115 340 print; #X obj 46 53 / 100; #X floatatom 103 32 5 0 200 0 - - -; #X obj 103 52 / 100; #X floatatom 156 32 5 0 100 0 - - -; #X obj 156 52 / 100; #X floatatom 207 32 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 207 55 / 100; #X obj 103 77 t b f; #X obj 207 79 t b f; #X obj 155 77 t b f; #X text 318 201 creation argument: [envgen x y stepnumber]; #X text 320 238 shift+mouse = move 100th; #X floatatom 258 33 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 258 53 / 100; #X floatatom 311 33 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 311 53 / 100; #X floatatom 362 33 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 362 56 / 100; #X obj 258 78 t b f; #X obj 362 80 t b f; #X obj 310 78 t b f; #X floatatom 411 34 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 411 57 / 100; #X obj 411 81 t b f; #X msg 87 159 \$1 \$2 \$3 \$4 \$5 \$6 \$7 \$8; #X obj 133 -13 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X text 161 -16 delete unexpected points; #X obj 93 134 pack 0 0.2 1 0.3 0.4 0.25 0.3 0.4; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 4 0 31 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 11 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 13 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 10 0 12 0; #X connect 11 0 31 0; #X connect 11 1 31 1; #X connect 12 0 31 0; #X connect 12 1 31 3; #X connect 13 0 31 0; #X connect 13 1 31 2; #X connect 16 0 17 0; #X connect 17 0 22 0; #X connect 18 0 19 0; #X connect 19 0 24 0; #X connect 20 0 21 0; #X connect 21 0 23 0; #X connect 22 0 31 0; #X connect 22 1 31 4; #X connect 23 0 31 0; #X connect 23 1 31 6; #X connect 24 0 31 0; #X connect 24 1 31 5; #X connect 25 0 26 0; #X connect 26 0 27 0; #X connect 27 0 31 0; #X connect 27 1 31 7; #X connect 28 0 0 0; #X connect 29 0 1 0; #X connect 29 0 5 0; #X connect 29 0 7 0; #X connect 29 0 9 0; #X connect 29 0 16 0; #X connect 29 0 18 0; #X connect 29 0 20 0; #X connect 29 0 25 0; #X connect 31 0 28 0;

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lopping patch
by altern 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

hi all i have been developing this patch and i thought someone else could find it useful. The original idea came for a sound installation with a friend few years ago. It can be downloaded from this link (svn server) http://devel.goto10.org/dl.php?repname=ixi&path=%2Fpd%2Fautoloop%2F&rev=0&i… It is a system that takes a sound input, i use either a snd file or adc, and samples it according to set of timers putting the sound into buffers and looping them. So the timers could be like this: 2-5-1 (in secs) and we could use, say 4 layers (buffers). Then it would sample 2 secs into buffer 1 then 5 into buffer 2 then 1 into buffer 3 then 2 into buffer 4, then 5 into buffer 1 again and so on... it keeps cycling unless you stop it. The result is several layers of sound looping independently. Not very good description i know, but maybe you want to use it and see it with your own eyes, then you might one to send me a better description :) I use it for concerts and installations. Let me know if it is helpful or if someone adds something. It is distributed with GPL license. It used both py and xsample externals from Thomas. have fun -- enrike

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stability of Gem for video playing
by ruben patiño 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

hi list, im working on a gem patch for a theater piece, the idea is that the scenography is gonna be made with the projection of 3 videos at the same time .... for synchronizing the videos i created a gem patch that is gonna be in each computer(3 computers: 2 osx and 1 with windows) connecting this 3 computers via netsend and netreceive....... I would like to know which is the best file extension for video supported by Gem (in osx and windows) and also which is the best codec for both windows and osx. Im interested in something really stable, if one of my computers with pd crashes at the middle of the piece, im gonna be dead. which factors influences the stability of opening and playing videos in gem? Does the video reading stabitlity comes from the amount of the video file size too? any hints would be gratefully appreciated --------------------------------- LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y mÃ³viles desde 1 cÃ©ntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com

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