Pd-list March 2006

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plugin~ for mac pd
by Libero Mureddu 09 Mar '06

09 Mar '06

Hi, I would like to know if there is any plan to make the plugin~ object working for mac osx, I'm using the ladspa plugins within ardour, but I'd really need to control them with pd. Not being able to program anything, I'd be happy to test any possibility! Thank you Libero Mureddu mac osx 10.4.4 ibook g4 pd-extended

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[Fwd: fe.cda 0.9.5]
by Thomas Grill 09 Mar '06

09 Mar '06

Hi also, made for Max, but should also run under PD. greetings, Thomas -------- Original-Nachricht -------- hello Thomas, if you got time, the last stable version of fe.cda.py (my script to handle audio cds on windows) is here : http://francois.eudes.free.fr/fe.cda.htm CDDB support included. cheers f.e

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RE: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing
by Patrick Pagano 09 Mar '06

09 Mar '06

ubuntu has a nice LIVE CD it found everything on my G4. the tricky part was, yes the VIDEO output for a projector/monitor that was difficult but everything else was easy. Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2082 -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at]On Behalf Of David Powers Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:28 PM To: Georg Holzmann Cc: B. Bogart; PD List send Subject: Re: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing Yes, I can get Live CD's to run (Demudi Live) - but note that I need to dual boot and partition my hard drive correctly, and that was where I got stuck. Additionally, I couldn't get my wireless working, and without the wireless, I can't get on the net, to look up Google and figure out what's wrong!!! Also, I couldn't figure out how to access files on my hard drive, through Linux - will Linux even read my Windoze partitioned drives? The dual-boot is a necessity, I have a lot of important music and other files that I've made with windows software that I really can't give up on. But I'd prefer, at least, to browse the web, and run PD and such, on Linux. Even without audio, if GEM was as stable as people say, it would have some interest for me, when I run live visuals (but can I get the output out of my laptop easy in Linux?)... I'm on a Toshiba Satellite, btw. I think it would be easier, if I had a desktop, but my old one doesn't really work it always freezes (regardless of operating system, must be hard drive or motherboard). ~David Georg Holzmann wrote: > Hallo! > >> I'm sorry, but - some of you Linux people really don't understand the >> beginner viewpoint. Linux is not that easy, and some people like me JUST >> DON'T UNDERSTAND IT! I've tried, 15 minutes to install, no way; more >> like, >> 5, or 15 hours, than give up in frustration. And googling, when you >> don't > > Well, try to download e.g. the installer cd from http://kanotix.com ... > You cannot tell me that you don't manage to install this when you are > able to use a program like pd ... > > LG > Georg > _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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RE: [PD] Re: stability of Gem for video playing
by Patrick Pagano 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

have you tried it with playlist~? could be cool used with randoms for glithced out jpeg sequences Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2082 -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at]On Behalf Of patco Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:36 PM To: pd-list(a)iem.at Subject: RE: [PD] Re: stability of Gem for video playing Hello cinepack crashes pd with my computer under winXP, gem-90.1, uncompressed avi files are running fine, and some quicktime files are running good too (jpg codec particulary) My favorite format for playing a video in GEM is the image files with using a metro connected to [pix_image] or something similar patco --- list-pd(a)robmunro.net a écrit : > I have been using GEM on windows for a while now and had crash problems a while back but i have > settled on the follwing process and i havent had any crashes lately. its not the best way, just > the way that work for me. > > 1. using GEM 0.87 (no qt!) > 2. encode video to avi (using virtualdub) with cinepack (400x300) (not a great codec, i know) - > because i want position control of the video i encode the video with a keyframe every 1 frame. > 3. dimensions of the video should match standard aspect ratio. and be a multiple of 4. > > I found that the larger the dimensions the more likely a crash (not sure if its bit rate related > or something else) but i am using [pix_delay] in my patch and found if i took that out vids that > did crash - didnt crash after removing the [pix-delay]. And using video with different codecs > seemd to make more crashes so i encoded all my video to one codec (cinepack). > > rm. > - Original Message ------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:57:37 -0600 > From: "chris clepper" <cgc(a)humboldtblvd.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing > To: PD-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: > <a8e0bc960603071557u1d1e0280nfe2b42a4c18179e3(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On 3/7/06, David Powers <cyborgk(a)nocturnalnoize.com> wrote: > > > > Yes, just to be clear, I think on MacOSX and Linux performance may be > > much more stable. From what I know the PC version has some problems, > > particularly with video playing. > > > > Yes, the Windows version 0.90 does crash when loading Quicktime clips. I > have done some work to fix this and hopefully the results will be available > soon. > > The other recommendations for Photo-Jpeg on OSX are good ones. > > cgc > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___________________________________________________________________________ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Re: stability of Gem for video playing
by list-pd＠robmunro.net 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

I have been using GEM on windows for a while now and had crash problems a while back but i have settled on the follwing process and i havent had any crashes lately. its not the best way, just the way that work for me. 1. using GEM 0.87 (no qt!) 2. encode video to avi (using virtualdub) with cinepack (400x300) (not a great codec, i know) - because i want position control of the video i encode the video with a keyframe every 1 frame. 3. dimensions of the video should match standard aspect ratio. and be a multiple of 4. I found that the larger the dimensions the more likely a crash (not sure if its bit rate related or something else) but i am using [pix_delay] in my patch and found if i took that out vids that did crash - didnt crash after removing the [pix-delay]. And using video with different codecs seemd to make more crashes so i encoded all my video to one codec (cinepack). rm. - Original Message ------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:57:37 -0600 From: "chris clepper" <cgc(a)humboldtblvd.com> Subject: Re: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing To: PD-list(a)iem.at Message-ID: <a8e0bc960603071557u1d1e0280nfe2b42a4c18179e3(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On 3/7/06, David Powers <cyborgk(a)nocturnalnoize.com> wrote: > > Yes, just to be clear, I think on MacOSX and Linux performance may be > much more stable. From what I know the PC version has some problems, > particularly with video playing. Yes, the Windows version 0.90 does crash when loading Quicktime clips. I have done some work to fix this and hopefully the results will be available soon. The other recommendations for Photo-Jpeg on OSX are good ones. cgc

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RE: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing
by Patrick Pagano 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

if i was able to figure it out surely you can. Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2082 -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at]On Behalf Of cyborgk(a)nocturnalnoize.com Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:21 PM To: Georg Holzmann Cc: B. Bogart; PD List send Subject: Re: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing Okay, well if I ever have $200 extra and anybody is smart enough to partition my hard drive and get Linux dual-booting on my laptop, recompile the kernel for audio, and get all the software I need working -- I'd pay someone to do it. Because I've never been able to figure it out... :-) ~David > Hallo! > >> *sigh* wish i could afford a mac ... ! > why that ? > just install linux ... > > LG > Georg > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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RE: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing
by Patrick Pagano 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

everything seems to work fine on linux as well, similar to OSX except GEM, with ubuntu breezy, i must "touch" Gem window to see movies/images in gemwin. but i have been using pdp_xv, and pdp_glx instead. Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2082 -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at]On Behalf Of Georg Holzmann Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:14 PM To: cyborgk(a)nocturnalnoize.com Cc: B. Bogart; PD List send Subject: Re: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing Hallo! > *sigh* wish i could afford a mac ... ! why that ? just install linux ... LG Georg _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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neural networks & PD
by Julian Villegas 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

I'm new in PD and I will like to know if someone have worked before with neural networks in pd, and how fast they can be. I found something in La kitchen, and in some papers, but any 'light' on how to do it and how fast they run, or whatever I should be aware before to start will be highly appreciate it ! :) Thanks in advance Julian Villegas University of Aizu Synthetic Worlds Laboratory Aizu - Wakamatsu Fukushima Japan 965 - 8580 Me pregunto de un modo pensativo Que significa ser colombiano? No se le respondi. Es un acto de fe JLB. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

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RE: [PD] neural networks & PD
by John Harrison 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

If you are talking about the FANN external library for Pd, I have used the library outside of Pd and found it to be very fast. I would imagine the Pd wrapper wouldn't cause much overhead so I suspect you will get very good results. -John >===== Original Message From Julian Villegas <julovi(a)yahoo.com> ===== >I'm new in PD and I will like to know if someone have worked before with neural networks in pd, and how fast they can be. I found something in La kitchen, and in some papers, but any 'light' on how to do it and how fast they run, or whatever I should be aware before to start will be highly appreciate it ! :) >Thanks in advance > > > >Julian Villegas > >University of Aizu >Synthetic Worlds Laboratory >Aizu - Wakamatsu Fukushima >Japan 965 - 8580 > >Me pregunto de un modo pensativo >Que significa ser colombiano? >No se le respondi. Es un acto de fe > JLB. > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Mail >Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > >_______________________________________________ >PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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RE: [PD] playback pix_film Gem stutters
by Patrick Pagano 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

on osx for reliable .mov playback with pdp_qt or _yqt i try to make sure they are Sorenson320x240 [not-3] Patrick Pagano, B.S., M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2082 -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at]On Behalf Of james tittle Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:49 AM To: sara kolster Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] playback pix_film Gem stutters hey sara, On Mar 6, 2006, at 12:42 AM, sara kolster wrote: >> ...since you've tried these things and they don't help, I'm >> inclined to believe there's something special about this clip: is >> it an edited clip from a longer sequence? I ask this because it >> could be that the last frame is somehow doubled/repeated, but >> there may be a loop point which quicktime player sees and obeys, >> but gem simply ignores... > It's not one clip, all clips [quicktime/photo-jpg codec] don't play > properly. As I wrote before, Gem is able to play the 'loop' while > in [auto $1 (lft inlet of pix_film] mode, but its playback > stutters. Using the left inlet of pix_film gives me a smooth > playback but a stuttering last frame. ...hmm: all I can say is that I don't see anything like this with my clips, so I've uploaded a copy of the latest gem cvs compile to my website, maybe that'll work? http://www.tigital.com >> ...my experience with pdp_qt has been spotty on osx, mainly being >> a matter of finding a codec that actually gets recognized >> correctly...it's been awhile since I really played with it, but I >> seem to remember either cinepak or sorenson consistently doing >> pretty well...? > It has been a while for me too. But I believe that the codec > quicktime/photojpg was recommended. ...unfortunately not all compressor programs make the same kind of file: it's very easy to think you're compressing as one thing, only to have it be another...I've been bitten with this, and in practice have found I just need to keep fiddling with parameters in order to find something that works as expected in [pdp_qt]... good luck, jamie _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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