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Re: playlist: load_object: Symbol "playlist_setup" not found
by Yves Degoyon 11 Mar '06

11 Mar '06

ola, sorry, ask to the list, i don't use and don't support windows. ciao, sevy aleksey grishchenko wrote: >hi, > >it about playlist extra. wan't load: error "load_object: Symbol >"playlist_setup" not found" >win98se, Pd versions 0.38-4, 0.39-2 > >bye. > > > >

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Re: [PD] Green splitted pictures
by nicolas.sauret＠laposte.net 11 Mar '06

11 Mar '06

thks, here is the result : $ qtinfo no_GISS_fill_2.mov File no_GISS_fill_2.mov: 0 audio tracks. 1 video tracks. 320x240, depth 40, rate 8.333333, length 75 frames, compressor jpeg. Native colormodel: YUV 4:4:4 planar (jpeg) Interlace mode: None (Progressive) supported. Deleting quicktime codecs $ lqtplay no_GISS_fill_2.mov INFO: playing no_GISS_fill_2.mov video: 1 track(s) track #1 width : 320 height: 240 depth : 40 bit rate : 8.33 fps codec : jpeg Timescale: 25 WARNING: no audio stream INFO: Xvideo port 53: is busy, skipping Stream colormodel YUV 4:4:4 planar (jpeg), using 24 bpp RGB Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". WARNING: gl: can't get visual (rgb,db) INFO: using BC_RGB888 + plain X11 INFO: window size is 320x240 Decoded 0 samples Deleting quicktime codecs lqtplay plays the film but in green (I believe it's not the original color). In pd : pdp_qt + pdp_xv : (black screen) pdp_qt: opening /home/nicolas/Stream/no_GISS_fill_2.mov pdp_qt: video stream found (320x240 pixels, 8 fps, 75 frames, jpeg codec) pdp_qt: WARNING: can't find a usable colour model pdp_yqt + pdp_xv : (all green screen, no moving image) pdp_yqt: opening /home/nicolas/Stream/no_GISS_fill_2.mov pdp_yqt: warning : no audio stream pdp_qt: ERROR: no usable video stream found. pdp_yqt + pdp_xgl : (nothing) pdp_glx: can't create visual Notice that the xgl doesn't work since I've installed the nvidia driver. I can actually play my original file with qtplay with the correct colors, but not Yves's file. When I try to transcode my file with lqt_transcode, all the codec crash PD. Does these info help ? thanks a lot all. > ola, > > try this short movie : > > http://___.free.fr/no_GISS_fill_2.mov > > suerte, > sevy > > > nicolas.sauret(a)laposte.net wrote: > > > Same problem after installing the last driver for my VGA card. > > Does anybody have a small mov file that I can test to see whether if > > it is my file or my system that fails. > > Do you have a check list to make sure the PD/PDP/PiDiP is well installed ? > > thanks you > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry I made a mistake on my XF86config file since, FC4 use > > > X.org's system... > > > So here is my xorg.conf file with nvidia driver : > > > [...] > > > Section "Monitor" > > > Identifier "Monitor0" > > > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > > > ModelName "Dell P1130" > > > DisplaySize 400 300 > > > HorizSync 30.0 - 130.0 > > > VertRefresh 48.0 - 170.0 > > > Option "dpms" > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "Device" > > > Identifier "Videocard0" > > > Driver "nv" > > > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > > > BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT" > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "Screen" > > > Identifier "Screen0" > > > Device "Videocard0" > > > Monitor "Monitor0" > > > DefaultDepth 24 > > > SubSection "Display" > > > Viewport 0 0 > > > Depth 16 > > > Modes "800x600" "640x480" > > > EndSubSection > > > SubSection "Display" > > > Viewport 0 0 > > > Depth 24 > > > Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1152x768" > > > "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > > > EndSubSection > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "DRI" > > > Group 0 > > > Mode 0666 > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > > Seems pretty ok to me. I still can't explain my green splitted > > > screen. > > > > > > > > > > > ola, > > > > > > > > ola, > > > > > > > > > seems a problem with the xvideo output, > > > > > can you try to play it with a pdp_glx ? > > > > > > > > same result except it plays slower. glx use opengl i guess. > > > > That's basically what I want escape since I'm doing really > > > > simple processing on big files for this project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then, please, indicate also your graphic driver > > > > > and system.. > > > > > > > > Here i'm limited with my linux knowledge... I'm under Fedora > > > > Core4. Brand new installed and updated according to the > > > > administrator. I've checked the XF86Config and it seems I use > > > > only generic driver. The card is a NVidia GeForce 6600 GT. > > > > here is an extract of the XF86Config.eg that is in this path > > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/Server > > > > Do you think that installing a specific driver would work > > > better ? > > > > > > > > I'm not sure that the info you need to help me. Let me know > > > > what command shell I should type to get the info. > > > > > > > > > > > > # > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > # Graphics device section > > > > # > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > > > > > # Any number of graphics device sections may be present > > > > > > > > Section "Device" > > > > > > > > # The Identifier must be present. > > > > > > > > Identifier "Generic VGA" > > > > Driver "vga" > > > > # Chipset "generic" > > > > # VideoRam 256 > > > > # Clocks 25.2 28.3 > > > > > > > > > > > > thks a lot. > > > > nicolaos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I can play my QT file with lqtplay. The result is not quite > > > > > >smooth and some frames are dropped. Since Pdp or pidip > > > use the > > > > > >same libquicktime, i'm wondering why I get such result (green > > > > > >picture, split)when I play it. > > > > > >Here is the output of lqtplay : > > > > > > > > > > > >$ lqtplay AE_BackRight.mov > > > > > >INFO: playing AE_BackRight.mov > > > > > > video: 1 track(s) > > > > > > track #1 > > > > > > width : 1024 > > > > > > height: 576 > > > > > > depth : 24 bit > > > > > > rate : 25.00 fps > > > > > > codec : jpeg > > > > > > audio: 1 track(s) > > > > > > track #1 > > > > > > rate : 48000 Hz > > > > > > bits : 16 > > > > > > chans : 1 > > > > > > codec : twos > > > > > >Timescale: 25 > > > > > >INFO: Xvideo port 61: 0x32595559 (YUY2) packed [BC_YUV422] > > > > > >INFO: Xvideo port 61: 0x32315659 (YV12) planar [BC_YUV420P] > > > > > >INFO: Xvideo port 61: 0x59565955 (UYVY) packed > > > > > >INFO: Xvideo port 61: 0x30323449 (I420) planar [BC_YUV420P] > > > > > >INFO: Xvideo port 61: 0x3 () packed > > > > > >Stream colormodel YUV 4:2:2 planar (jpeg), using YUV 4:2:2 > > > > > >packed (YUY2) > > > > > >INFO: using BC_YUV422 + Xvideo extention > > > > > >INFO: window size is 1024x576 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Any idea how to make this file work into PD/pdp/pidip ? > > > > > >Any idea what codec will make PD/... play it smoothly ? I may > > > > > >then convert the file with lqt_transcode. > > > > > > > > > > > >thanks a lot, > > > > > >nicolaos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Merci sevY, > > > > > >>sorry, i'm a bit slow for testing the solutions, I'm > > > fulltime > > > > > >>busy with 4-5 projects. > > > > > >>So qtinfo gives me : > > > > > >>$ qtinfo ./AE_FrontRight.mov > > > > > >> > > > > > >>File ./AE_FrontRight.mov: > > > > > >> 1 audio tracks. > > > > > >> 1 channels, 16 bits, sample rate 48000, length 29721600 > > > > > >>samples, compressor twos. > > > > > >> Sample format: 16 bit signed. > > > > > >> supported. > > > > > >> 1 video tracks. > > > > > >> 1024x576, depth 24, rate 25.000000, length 15480 frames, > > > > > >>compressor jpeg. > > > > > >> Native colormodel: YUV 4:2:2 planar (jpeg) > > > > > >> Interlace mode: None (Progressive) > > > > > >> supported. > > > > > >>Deleting quicktime codecs > > > > > >> > > > > > >>It's a pretty big file coming directly from After Effect as > > > > > >>jpeg sequence. YUV 4:2:2 must be the problem, since i'm > > > pretty > > > > > >>sure pdp_qt or yqt can decode jpeg sequence. > > > > > >>I would like to keep it like this since I want keep the high > > > > > >>quality from it. Is there a color mode conversion in > > > pdp/pidip > > > > > >>package ? > > > > > >> > > > > > >>thanks. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>nicolaos. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>ola, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>seems ther's a problem with your codec and the libquicktime > > > > > >>>you are using, which version of libquicktime and which > > > codec > > > > > >>>( do a qtinfo on your movie ) > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>for the font, you are missing this file : > > > > > >>>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/helmetr.ttf > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>you can get it from pidip source code. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>suerte, > > > > > >>>sevy > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>nicolas.sauret(a)laposte.net wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>Hello all, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>It's finally installed. I only have a error loading the > > > > font. > > > > > >>>>Yves propose to make install from Pidip but there is > > > no such > > > > > >>>>things in the Pd-Extended... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>The problem actually is that using pdp_yqt, I get a green > > > > > >>>>screen (all green). > > > > > >>>>Using pdp_qt, I get an interesting split composed of 7 > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >parts : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>bottom half (black) > > > > > >>>>left and right half of the bottom half of the bottom up > > > > (half > > > > > >>>>picture) > > > > > >>>>and so on wich make 7 parts. The picture are green but at > > > > > >>>>least I can see my film. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>the film is in YUV422. I guess the problem comes from > > > here. > > > > > >>>>How to arrange this ? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>thanks > > > > > >>>>++ > > > > > >>>>nic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : > > > www.laposte.net ; > > > > 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34 /mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; > > > 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34 /mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ;/ > > /3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34 /mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn)/ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34 /mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn) Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34 /mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn)

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Re: sndfiler darwin compilation WAS Re: [PD] oggread~ won't read my ogg file?
by Georg Holzmann 11 Mar '06

11 Mar '06

Hallo! > well, i think it is a typo and should read "-lpthread" instead of > "-pthread" - and of course you will need to have pthreads installed. no, it's no typo ... for the compiler I have -pthread as flag ... LG Georg -- Echte DSL-Flatrate dauerhaft für 0,- Euro*! "Feel free" mit GMX DSL! http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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Re: [PD] stability of Gem for video playing
by Nicolas Sauret 11 Mar '06

11 Mar '06

Cool, precious infos. I'm playing 1024*768 files but photo-jpeg codec but I can't make it work so far (cf thread green split pictures). Would GEM work better than pdp/pidip ? what is the avantage of one on another ? I'm playing the videos onwards (forwards in english ?) and using PD essentially for synchronisation issue. thanks ++ nicolaos. >>which was ??? (the codec) >>what did you use ? gem ? pdp ? linux ? >> >> > >I've been using Pd 0.39 GEM 0.90 with a DV camera and video files on a >Debian Linux box for over a year now for several dance and theatre plays >without a single crash during a performance. > >As of today, I use .mov files with the MJPEG codec , encoded through the >MJPEG tools, no sound. My only concern has been the huge amount of CPU >needed by Gem to play a mjpeg movie (about 50% for a 640x480@25fps video >on an Athlon XP3000+ powered Shuttle, although VLC, Cinelerra or Totem >needs at most 10% to play a 1024x768 movie using the same codec). >Unfortunately, I need to play videos at random frames, and sometimes >even backwards, since that I can solely use a spatial compressor. For >"onwards-only" videos, I play .ogg files using theora codec. > >Personnally , I guess the whole system stability is strongly related to >the OS (Linux/Debian Sid, 2.6.15 kernel tuned by a friend of mine), it's >not rare to see the CPU usage jump up to 120% for a while when running >too many FXs at the same time. Nevertheless, it never crashes, the >machine as well as the patch have lately been running flawlessly for 3 >weeks . > >a+ > >Olivier > > > >

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Numberboxes freezing
by Chuckk Hubbard 11 Mar '06

11 Mar '06

I mentioned this before and someone said something about PD "throttling" certain GUIs. My numberboxes just freeze, displaying 0. What does this mean? What makes it happen and how can I stop it? -Chuckk -- "It is not when truth is dirty, but when it is shallow, that the lover of knowledge is reluctant to step into its waters." -Friedrich Nietzsche, "Thus Spoke Zarathustra"

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Re: sndfiler darwin compilation WAS Re: [PD] oggread~ won't read my ogg file?
by Georg Holzmann 11 Mar '06

11 Mar '06

Hallo David! >> I've now switched from gcc 4.0 to 3.3 using gcc_select, but output >> remains the same... yes - should not matter, I compiled it with gcc4 ... > Compiling sndfiler against dev_0_39 instead of MAIN, I get: well, you can do both - compile against devel or main - as said before, for devel use Makefile, for main use Makefile.pd_main ... >> gcc: unrecognized option `-pthread' sorry, I have no experience in compiling on osx ... you will have to adapt the Makefile.pd_main, because I never compiled the new version on osx ... I don't know why gcc does not know -pthread - maybe you have to install pthread on your system ? (maybe an osx experienced developer can help us here?) >>> I don't -have- to do ogg, could do mp3 instead...would that be >>> possible? sndfiler does not support mp3 - only ogg and all formats supported by libsndfile ... LG Georg -- Echte DSL-Flatrate dauerhaft für 0,- Euro*! "Feel free" mit GMX DSL! http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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ddd/gdb with externals
by Rich E 11 Mar '06

11 Mar '06

Does anyone know how to use ddd/gdb for debugging pd externals?I found a site that explained how to debug child processes that are used with fork(), but I don't know if this is the case at hand. If there is an easier way to debug externals, I'm willing to try it...but right now I'm using a million posts, which is getting annoying. Thanks, Richie

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Re: [PD] Green splitted pictures
by nicolas.sauret＠laposte.net 11 Mar '06

11 Mar '06

> > if you have an nvidia card then i don't see a reason why you would want > to "escape using openGL" - that's the thing where your card is good at. > if you don't want to use it, you should have bought a cheaper card. The reason is that I'm using PD only to synchronise the screening of 4 streams on 4 computers with no particular processing for which openGL would have been definitely usefull. Since the bitrate of my QT files are quite big, I believed it would be faster to play it directly through xv. Maybe I'm wrong ? I have managed to convince the technical staff to install 4 linux for my artwork, these are not my pc but university's one. It's already quite a performance to introduce Linux in a Hong Kong's institution, believe me. I have written a paper about OSS and it's the first time i'm actually using it for an artwork (newbees Linux and PD...). And it does make sense to me as an "artist" to developp my work under Open Source OS and software (I guess that's the case of everybody here), but now I need to make it work ;) > if you are not afraid of using proprietary software, then i strongly > suggest getting nvidia's drivers (not just the opensource replacement > "nv"): the performance is far(!) better (but it's not as correct in a > political way) I've installed the driver already. Still the same problem. cf answer to Yves D. Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34 /mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34/mn)

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pd 0.39: no jack?
by Renato Fabbri 10 Mar '06

10 Mar '06

IÂ´ve installed ccrma pack, pd version is 0.37, it suports jack and likes it. IÂ´ve installed 0.39 from source on a different directory, it does not suport jack!! ?? What? Can anyone help me with this? kisses ref __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [PD] GEM 3d movement
by Frank Barknecht 10 Mar '06

10 Mar '06

Hallo, cyborgk(a)nocturnalnoize.com hat gesagt: // cyborgk(a)nocturnalnoize.com wrote: > You almost made me crazy, because you gave the wrong formula, and I > thought expr didn't work! ;) > > I think the 3d distance is: > [expr sqrt(($f4-$f1)*($f4-$f1) + ($f5-$f2)*($f5-$f2) + ($f6-$f3)*($f6-$f3)) ] Ah, yes, of course, I don't know what I was thinking about when I made up my completely wrong formula. Sorry for disturbing you, your version is of course right and mine is utter nonsense for the task at hand. At least [expr] still is the tool to use. ;) ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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