Pd-list December 2006

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Re: [PD] wiiremote b4
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 29 Dec '06

29 Dec '06

Let's keep this on list, since it might be of interest to others. A crash log would be interesting. Also, a transcript from the Pd window, and what you had to do to get it to crash. (I don't even have bluetooth, so I am flying blind ;) .hc On Dec 28, 2006, at 7:09 PM, nick weldin wrote: > Hi Hans > > Still crashing for me I'm afraid. Am downloading latest builds on > the off chance. > > Can send crash report from the log if that sany use. > > Cheers > > Nick > >> Ok, Masayuki Akamatsu released updated code for the wiiremote >> object. It looks complete, so here's the Pd version again. >> Please try it and let me know if it works for you: >> >> >> Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:wiiremote_b4.tar.bz2 >> ( / ) (00B8B373) >> >> .hc >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others >> of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power >> called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as >> long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it >> forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver >> cannot dispossess himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler

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Re: [GEM-dev] Re: pix_video and dv1394 capture on Edgy
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 29 Dec '06

29 Dec '06

As I suspected, issue is much more acute. I just tried the identical setup on vanilla FC6 and it exhibits *exactly* the same problem (Kino works, but Gem doesn't using the same ieee1394 device, namely ADVC-100). So, now we have Dapper, Edgy, and FC6 for sure having this problem and I would not be surprised to hear that there are more recent distros which exhibit this issue (Debian for sure due to its relationship to Ubuntu). Regarding your questions Studio, please see my previous e-mails, they are pretty verbose as to what is missing and/or what is the behavior. FWIW, I do not have /dev/dv1394-0, but rather /dev/dv1394/0 device. This is the case on both FC6 and Ubuntu. The problem is exhibited via pd-extended install, totally from scratch source install (mine on Ubuntu had everything yes except for libmpeg1 and ffmpeg; libmpeg3 was also yes), and now also the CCRMA build. This may seem that newer udev plus latest ieee1394 libs/drivers are at odds with the Gem way of addressing them. I have traced the problem down to Gem/src/Pixes/videoDV4L.cpp which deals with dv1394 device and from which all of the errors come. Commenting any of the tripwires simply triggers the next one (i.e. closed error, then ioctl WAIT_FRAMES, then ioctl GET_STATUS, etc.). Commenting all "return NULL" evokes these errors on every frame flodding the shell. I could probably take a stab on this one if I knew more about ieee1394 and more precisely dv1394 stuff but I don't. Learning so would take way too much time and more importantly it would be redundant as I am sure the community already has those who are well-versed in this area. I will, however, gladly provide necessary access/feedback and even code provided I am given some help in understanding dv1394 stuff so that the code is altered accordingly. I hope you will agree with me that this is a pretty big deal as it will preclude use of dv1394 in conjunction with Gem without exceptions until this issue is resolved. My plea is please push this to the top of the TODO list and I'll do all I can to assist in resolving the issue. Many thanks! Best wishes, Ico On 12/28/06, Studio Zodiak <studiozodiak(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: > > This is interesting. > Like I said before, > I asked this list before with the same problem. > > maybe we can share info. > > Are you compiling Gem? > > I have used the compiling options --with-ieee1394-includes > and --with-ieee1394-libs > -I don't know where to set the libs thaugh- /usr/lib/? > > Anyway, at the end of the configure, I get no for the ieee1394 option. > > even disabling v4l is not doing much. > > I went on the ieee1394 website and saw that the api relies on two > libraries. > > Just for you information, > last time I succeeded in making my dvcamera work with Gem on linux was on > red hat 9. > > This I have tried on breezy and dapper with no success. > > I grepped for /dev/ieee1394 in the Gem's src directory and found that it > is supposed to default to ieee1394 from v4l (is this correct?). > > I remember having to send a driver 1 message to pix_video like on a mac. > > Only on my Edgy machine the repertoire is /dev/ieee1394-0 > > could one do as such perhaps? > > 1. ln -s /dev/ieee1394 /dev/ieee1394-0 > > 2. permissions > > Anyway, just my 2 cents for now. > > Sylvain > > > > > > > > *Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico.bukvic(a)gmail.com>* wrote: > > > Despite those thoughts I still haven't had a look at unicap yet, still > too > > many other things TODO first. > > Well, I just wasted another 2 hours trying to get my 5+ (!) year old > webcam > working which is still unsupported in Linux (intel pocket pc cam cs780, > even > though CS630 and CS430 are supported). Ironically, in Windoze everything > "just worked." > > Based on my tests I am suspecting that this is a lib/distro-independent > issue, and as such am also wondering what will happen with pd/gem on Linux > in 6 months when most of the other distros pump out their next release > with > libs similar to Edgy (maybe some of them already are?) leaving gem video > for > all intents and purposes broken. I also looked at the videojack project > Mathieu pointed out and it really looks, well, promising, but it is by no > means a complete and/or well supported product despite its huge potential. > Perhaps this video issue should be bumped higher on the gem TODO list > given > the current situation? > > Thanks for all your help! > > Best wishes, > > Ico > > > _______________________________________________ > GEM-dev mailing list > GEM-dev(a)iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >

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float parsing
by Mathieu Bouchard 29 Dec '06

29 Dec '06

If I type something like this in a messagebox: list +1 +1 +1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +1 then should the +1 be floats or symbols? (currently, they're symbols) _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada

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Re: [PD] project feedback
by alberto.zin＠poste.it 29 Dec '06

29 Dec '06

Hi Daniel, I saw the video, looks damn cool! The java user interface seems extremely powerful according to what you do with the mouse. Could have been done something similar with PD data structure? At least the way you change cutoff, fm parameters seems doable, not sure about the sequencing tools the way you do it. I do not know why, but in some way the video remembers me the Lemur device capabilities. Have you tought about a touch screen to do some of the things you do with the mouse, is it feasible? BTW, I tried to download the program but it seems that the link is broken. Cheers, Alberto Zin http://puredata.org/Members/AlbertoZ

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mouse movement in PD causes audio dropout
by jeff bechtel 29 Dec '06

29 Dec '06

Hi list, So, I'm running a new Pentium D dual core 2.66 ghz Dell. Win XP Pro. While in PD ( no other sound apps) mouse movement causes the audio to drop out altogether. The sound resumes to normal when I stop moving the mouse. A look at the task manager performance monitor reveals the cpu activity spikes way way up during mouse movement- like 89-90% (whew!). This happens with both asio port audio, and the onboard audio My Dell laptop ( XP pro ) performs great in PD , both ASIO and standard audio. The same spike in cpu activity doesnt do a thing to the audio playback etc They are running exactly the same screen resolution 1024*768 32bit I found the method on the PD archives for setting the prioity for PD to HIGH, and put it into the batch that starts all of my externals. PD runs normally, loading all libraries as expected, but the problem persists I adjusted the windows gui to run for optimized performance as well is it even remotely possible that it needs to be compiled for this type of processor? Thanks so much, PD RULES!!!!!!!!!! JEff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Compilation of externals on Mac-Intel
by Luigi Rensinghoff 29 Dec '06

29 Dec '06

Hi again i ended in a "dead end" still trying to connect PD to a database. I was on Linux before and after a while i learned how to compile the various externals, including flext. Now i want to do the same on my macbook, which turns out not to be such an easy task. My goal is to connext PD to a postgres database, be it via sqlsingle or the py-external and python. In both cases there are no binaries available for intel-macs, or at least i did not find them. So i send out general question to all the Mac-Intel Users here. Whats the best way, to be most flexible ? a) Lern how to compile the externals, maybe via fink ? Is that a good approach ? b) wait until the pd-extended-installers include them all ? c) swith back to linux Thanks for suggestions Bye Luigi

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msgfile busted?
by timon 29 Dec '06

29 Dec '06

Hi, Im trying to get msgfile to work on OSX 10.4.8 (G4) using HCS's PD 0.39.2 extended (test 4). No luck. Wont read, write or anything. Just printing [done] bang. Is there a known bug/break here? Cant find anything on the list... Thanks, Timon

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wiiremote b4
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 29 Dec '06

29 Dec '06

Ok, Masayuki Akamatsu released updated code for the wiiremote object. It looks complete, so here's the Pd version again. Please try it and let me know if it works for you: .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson

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wave morphing
by Patco 28 Dec '06

28 Dec '06

Hi list, I am trying to fade beetween waveshapes, doesn't find how to get an average of the morphed signal between 0 and 1, Anyone has an idea? #N canvas 0 0 454 304 10; #X obj 117 74 noise~; #N canvas 454 176 514 430 module 0; #X obj 139 23 inlet~; #X obj 176 343 outlet~; #X obj 233 71 osc~; #X obj 232 50 / 100; #X obj 197 94 >~ 0; #X obj 140 122 samphold~; #X obj 232 24 inlet; #X obj 283 23 inlet; #X obj 318 63 fade-morph 63 128; #X obj 176 234 +~; #X obj 195 194 *~ 2; #X obj 176 267 +~; #X obj 324 87 fade-morph 0 126; #X obj 334 114 fade-morph -63 126; #X obj 195 173 *~ 0; #X obj 177 151 *~ 0; #X obj 234 209 *~ 1; #X obj 176 298 /~ 2; #X obj 189 213 -~ 2; #X obj 235 239 +~ 3; #X connect 0 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 16 0; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 5 1; #X connect 4 0 14 0; #X connect 5 0 15 0; #X connect 6 0 3 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 7 0 12 0; #X connect 7 0 13 0; #X connect 8 0 15 1; #X connect 9 0 11 0; #X connect 10 0 18 0; #X connect 11 0 17 0; #X connect 12 0 14 1; #X connect 13 0 16 1; #X connect 14 0 10 0; #X connect 15 0 9 0; #X connect 16 0 19 0; #X connect 17 0 1 0; #X connect 18 0 9 1; #X connect 19 0 11 1; #X restore 141 137 pd module; #X obj 243 102 hsl 128 15 0 127 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 235 64 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 132 272 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 133 178 unsig~ 50; #X text 121 13 waveshape morphing; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 1 2; #X connect 3 0 1 1; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #N canvas 0 0 339 233 10; #N canvas 29 318 179 311 fade-morph 0; #X obj 42 8 inlet; #X obj 41 267 outlet; #X obj 42 114 change; #X obj 41 245 /; #X obj 42 157 -; #X obj 109 50 \$2; #X obj 127 118 / 2; #X obj 42 178 abs; #X obj 42 200 -; #X obj 42 222 abs; #X obj 42 135 - \$1; #X obj 42 30 t a b; #X obj 80 72 + \$1; #X obj 42 91 clip \$1; #X connect 0 0 11 0; #X connect 2 0 10 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 7 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 5 0 12 0; #X connect 6 0 4 1; #X connect 6 0 3 1; #X connect 6 0 8 1; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 3 0; #X connect 10 0 4 0; #X connect 11 0 13 0; #X connect 11 1 5 0; #X connect 12 0 13 2; #X connect 13 0 2 0; #X restore 163 121 pd fade-morph; #X text 161 47 \$2 = ending fade out; #X text 161 26 \$1 = begining fade in; #X text 148 66 \$2/2 = top level; #X text 86 44 inlet; #X text 72 189 outlet = value between 0 and 1; #X obj 163 94 inlet; #X obj 163 145 outlet; #X connect 0 0 7 0; #X connect 6 0 0 0;

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Re: [GEM-dev] Re: pix_video and dv1394 capture on Edgy
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 28 Dec '06

28 Dec '06

Thanks for the advice but I am hoping to avoid webcam due to inherent quality/fps decrease. Also, what makes me wonder is because Kino works fine but Gem doesn't and given that Edgy is more-or-less supposed to draw from the bleeding edge lib versions that this kind of a problem will eventually trickle down to other distros which may be currently relying upon older versions of supporting libs, hence requiring update in Gem. If this is so, I think sooner rather than later is probably a good idea. Best wishes, Ico On 12/28/06, Studio Zodiak <studiozodiak(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: > > I tried to get 1394 running with ubuntu edgy without success also. > Maybe try using a webcam before you die of frustration. > > I did. It changed my life : ) > > Sylvain > > *I* >

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