Pd-list November 2006

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mmm-devel
by Christopher Charles 04 Nov '06

04 Nov '06

hi eni ich hab ne ganze menge änderungen am control-fluss gemacht, ich versuche mmm als receiver ganz rauszukürzen und hab jetzt folgendes schema: >mmm-transport ist der bus, der zum code des transport-panels führt, also getbpm und sowas mmm-transport> ist das, was aus dem transport panel rauskommt, wie bpm und timecode >mmm-seqgui ist das, was ans gui des sequencers geschickt werden soll mmm-font> ist der receiver, der alle fontspezifischen sachen empfängt und so weiter. ich hab teilweise mmm/controller/* schon aufgelöst, an mmm/modul/* hab ich mich noch fast garnicht ran gertraut. das ergebnis bei mir ist, dass die performance schon tausendmal besser ist, jetzt kann ich ganz mmm mit kilodrums vollladen, und tatsächlich ein einziges sauber, ohne aussetzter spielen lassen, das ging vorher nicht. außerdem finde ich es einleuchtender, wenn man anhand der namen der receiver erkennt, in welche richtung der code geht, anstatt nur einen bus für alles zu nutzen. muss los, tschö!

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PD, macbook, fedora 6
by bbarros 04 Nov '06

04 Nov '06

Hullo! install fedora core 6 in a macbook pro "2" is a good idea to work with pd in the meantime? Is there any other thing useful in having this other system on a mac computer? Any experiences? Cheers!

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Re: [PD] error: pix_video: could not initialise COM
by Drew Browning 04 Nov '06

04 Nov '06

Hey Chris, The OS is 32 bit: Windows XP Home Edition, Version 2002, Service Pack 2 Drew At 02:49 PM 11/3/2006, chris clepper wrote: >Hi Drew > >I tested the DirectShow code on an Athlon64 laptop (much of it was >written on one). I don't have any AMD machines to test with now >though. The COM initialization is the very first check done before >DirectShow is even called and all DirectShow code has to have that COM >code. I haven't even seen that error happen since COM is pretty basic >for the MS OSes - kind of like saying you don't have any OS installed. > >Which service packs do you have installed? Is this a 64bit or 32 bit OS? > >Chris > >On 11/3/06, Drew Browning <drew(a)uic.edu> wrote: >>List, >> >>I'm trying to use PD/GEM on my Shuttle, AMD Athlon 64 machine with WinXP >>and a ATI Radeon X800 graphics card. GEM seems to work fine except for >>pix_video. When I load a pix_video patch, like 00.SimpleVideo.pd from the >>examples, I get the following: >> >>MAN::resetState entered >>error: pix_video: could not initialise COM. >>MAN::resetState entered >> >>When I send the message "device 0" the pix_video object, I get the following: >> >>error: pix_videoDS: COM has not been initialized. >> >>Here's what I have done to try to solve the problem: >>- I've tried different versions of PD/GEM but I still can't use pix_video. >>I'm currently using Pd version 0.40-1 and GEM version 0.91-cvs. >>- I've updated my graphics driver to the most recent version. >>- I've tried both USB web cams and DV cam but both give the same error. The >>cameras work in other applications. >>- pix_video works fine on my Pentium machines. I thought it might be an AMD >>problem but when wrote to the list about this a year ago others replied >>they had no problem with their AMD Athlon 64 machines. >>- Per another suggestion I ran services.msc and made sure COM, DCOM and WMI >>services were started and they are. >>- I've updated my DirectX to the latest version. >> >>I'm hoping there might be someone who can help me find a solution. >> >>Drew >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _________________________________________________________________ Drew Browning, Assoc. Prof.; Director, Design Visualization Lab Industrial Design and Electronic Visualization Programs UIC School of Art and Design (mc 036), Rm. 106 JH 929 W. Harrison, Chicago Illinois 60607-7038 Office: (312) 996-0156; Dept: (312) 996-3337 DVL: (312) 413-1497; EVL: (312) 996-3002 http://www.evl.uic.edu/drew, email: drew(a)uic.edu UNIVERSAL DESIGN IS GOOD DESIGN _________________________________________________________________

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Re: [PD] tabosc4~ in .40-1 on MacTel
by mrcarp＠comcast.net 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

Thanks a lot! -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Miller Puckette <mpuckett(a)imusic1.ucsd.edu> > Wow, I haven't heard sounds like that since Xenakis died. > > I'm guessing osc~ is broken too. Will fix&test tomorrow... > > thanks > Miller > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 09:26:18PM +0000, mrcarp(a)comcast.net wrote: > > is anyone else experiencing strange/incorrect behavior with the tabosc4~ > object in .40-1 in OS X on a MacTel machine? > > i don't experience this behavior on an XP Pro machine... > > essentially, tabosc4~ doesn't work correctly and can blow up easily (i.e., > loud!). open the tabosc4~ help and try it out. > > thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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error: pix_video: could not initialise COM
by Drew Browning 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

List, I'm trying to use PD/GEM on my Shuttle, AMD Athlon 64 machine with WinXP and a ATI Radeon X800 graphics card. GEM seems to work fine except for pix_video. When I load a pix_video patch, like 00.SimpleVideo.pd from the examples, I get the following: MAN::resetState entered error: pix_video: could not initialise COM. MAN::resetState entered When I send the message "device 0" the pix_video object, I get the following: error: pix_videoDS: COM has not been initialized. Here's what I have done to try to solve the problem: - I've tried different versions of PD/GEM but I still can't use pix_video. I'm currently using Pd version 0.40-1 and GEM version 0.91-cvs. - I've updated my graphics driver to the most recent version. - I've tried both USB web cams and DV cam but both give the same error. The cameras work in other applications. - pix_video works fine on my Pentium machines. I thought it might be an AMD problem but when wrote to the list about this a year ago others replied they had no problem with their AMD Athlon 64 machines. - Per another suggestion I ran services.msc and made sure COM, DCOM and WMI services were started and they are. - I've updated my DirectX to the latest version. I'm hoping there might be someone who can help me find a solution. Drew

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[PD-announce] Pd 0.40-2 released (2 minor bugs fixed)
by Miller Puckette 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

Hi all, Pd 0.40-2 is out... this fixes the tabosc4~ object for Intel Mac and gives the "correct" result when sending non-list messages to "list length". Available from: http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html cheers Miller _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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processing audio and render in gem simultaneously???
by Andres Ferrari 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

hello everybody. is possible to process audio in pd and work with gem simultaneously???. i have mac osx with 1.33 mhz and 768 ram., but always i obtanin clicks and interference in audio when I apply a process in gem...like change from videoA.mov to videoB.mov...is a simply task but audio generate a click. may be gem is not designed to work with audio processs in the same time....i don't know....may be there are problems in my mac...in max/jitter i don't have these problems. some suggestion or advice? thanks a lot. AndrÃ©s Ferrari G. http://puredata.org/Members/anfex __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam Â¡gratis! RegÃstrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/

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pd 0.40.1 won't build with --disable-alsa
by John Harrison 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

In my effort to find out why Pd crashes my system on startup, I thought I'd rebuild and upgrade to 0.40.1: $ ./configure --enable-jack --disable-portaudio --disable-portmidi --disable-alsa $ make The build breaks: s_main.o: In function `sys_argparse':/home/iradio/Desktop/installs/puredata/pd-0.40-1/src/s_main.c:632: undefined reference to `alsa_adddev' s_audio.o: In function `audio_getdevs':/home/iradio/Desktop/installs/puredata/pd-0.40-1/src/s_audio.c:573: undefined reference to `alsa_getdevs' s_audio.o: In function `sys_close_audio':/home/iradio/Desktop/installs/puredata/pd-0.40-1/src/s_audio.c:416: undefined reference to `alsa_close_audio' ... ... ... If I leave out --disable-alsa when it builds fine. -John

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[PD-announce] mmm-0.1.0-eden
by Christopher Charles 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

hi list. we proudly announce the first public release of our compact composer for pd, mmm. grab it at http://netpd.org/mmm-0.1.0.zip mmm is best described in it's faq, see below. don't expect too much yet, there is still a lot to be done. comments, bugreports, cash, are welcome. have fun with it! christopher charles & enrique erne faq for mmm-0.1.0 - eden what is mmm? mmm is a pd patch collection aimed at providing a studiolike(?), streamlined, dynamic interface for making synthetic music. screenshots? http://www.netpd.org/mmm.png ymmv depending on your operating system. we put some effort in detecting the operating system and setting the fontsize according to it, but quirky xorg or dpi settings might screw things up again. where can i get it? we currently host the mmm at http://netpd.org/mmm-0.1.0.zip , alternatively, you can grab netpd, enter the chat, and if either of the authors is online, download it directly through netpd and start rocking. what does "mmm" stand for? mmm was originally just the working title, but we came to like it somehow. the original meaning is "music making machine" but you can substitute every m for whatever you want. so "massive multiplayer music" is okay with us, too. what is the inspiration? having worked on/with the bagoftricks (lots inconsistently coloured gop-patches to be connected freely) and netpd (lots of inconsistent-looking windows to clutter up the screen), we came to mock up an clean, dynamic interface in which modules don't bring their own gop or open their own window, but log onto the interface that's provided for them by the motherpatch. all modules sharing the same interface made it easy for them to share the same sequencer and arranger. what are the dependencies? mmm should work with pd-0.39 and zexy installed. iemlib is important for many synth and effects patches, and there's even set of gem modules you can chain if you want. is it actually usable? no. this 0.1.0 release is rather a tech demo and a taste of things to potentially come. you can crunch some acid loops out of it already, but don't sell your protools studio equipment to start working with mmm on monday. how does it work? mmm's interface (mmmmain.pd) is divided into 3 parts: there is the module/channel view, where you can chain up synths and effects on 8 different channels. select an empty field on a channel, and then use the scrollbox on the left to select a patch and open it. when clicking on a patch you loaded up in the module view, the 2nd view comes into play: from there you control the patch's sliders on the left, right of it is the stepsequencer for each of the slider (means everything is sequencable!). yet you won't hear anything until you did the following 2 things: press play in the uppermost row of mmmmain, and set up the arranger to play the stepsequence. the arranger is not module-based, but controls all modules of a channel are grouped in the arranger. for now, you can only select pattern 01 or nothing to play in the arranger. so set up a loop for the first pattern (loopstart:0, looplength:1) set the first field on the channel you got your patch on in the arranger to p01 and start making some noise. does it work online? yes. mmm is compatible to netpd and will automatically log on to netpd's server if you have the netpd chat open. you can also download the whole mmm package through netpd. feel free to jam around the world. what's not working yet / what is planned? as for now, there is no support for samples whatsoever, it isn't planned to support them soon. further, there is no hard disk recorder available yet, but it is planned. the arranger/sequencer combo is very crippled at the moment, only supporting 1 16-step-pattern to choose from and 1 page of 16 patterns in the arranger. this will change rather soon. next there are plans for luxury editing functions, especially in the sequencer like copy, paste, random pattern, interpolation and so on. plans exist for full keyboard control, but this will be worked on not too soon. the module roster is far from being complete yet, more is to come. can i save my stuff? should be possible with the buttons above the channels. don't rely on the result though, this is still 0.1.0 :) can i add my own modules? modules are not to hard to write, but for now, the list of selectable modules is hardcoded. look at all the 4m-* patches in the patches folder to see how they are ticking. contact us for adding your patch to the mmm or try to figure out yourself how it works ;) what's the license? mmm is licensed under the gnu lgpl. if you think this is a too useful product to be free of charge, please consider donating the amount of money you would've paid for it (or the amount of money you got from selling your protools equipment on monday) to a trust of your choice. who are the authors? mmm is developed by enrique erne (eni, swiss, pd{at}mild.ch) and christopher charles (syntax_tn, germany, chr.m.charles{at}gmail.com). we can be contacted via email, irc (#dataflow) or directly in the netpd chat. several patches within mmm are based upon netpd versions of them, check netpd for the original authors. mmm shares some of it's netcode with netpd, by roman haefeli. disclaimer. we cannot give you any guarantees on using mmm, not even that you have fun. it should be relatively harmless, but don't come crying to us if mmm accidently hijacks your *mule and downloads david hasslehoff recordings to your computer. eofaq _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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tabosc4~ in .40-1 on MacTel
by mrcarp＠comcast.net 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

is anyone else experiencing strange/incorrect behavior with the tabosc4~ object in .40-1 in OS X on a MacTel machine? i don't experience this behavior on an XP Pro machine... essentially, tabosc4~ doesn't work correctly and can blow up easily (i.e., loud!). open the tabosc4~ help and try it out. thanks!

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