Pd-list September 2005

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by Spencer Russell 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

Hi list, perhaps this should be obvious from past posts, but I've never been clear on the difference between pd-extended and pd-devel. As I understand the PD branches, pure-data is Miller's "vanilla" version, and then there's another version with more bleeding-edge features, which I've usually heard refered to as the devel version, which leads me to believe that that's what pd-devel is. So what's pd-extended? Thanks, spencer

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PROBLEM: saving patch state .....solved but... :-/
by federico 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

I have a big problem: saving state of sliders. I heard about 'state' which should be a builtin pd object, but in 0.39-0 it is not available. ??????? basically i could implement state-saving of a slider/radio/numberbox in a simple manner (see the attached patch). simply connect the slider to a [set $1( object. which is connected to a [0( object and back to the slider. now attach a [loadbang] to the [0( object, or bang it when you like. now saving the patch will keep (stored in the patch) the slider value. i used 4 components for 1 slider. when using lots of sliders this work could become tedious, and it take more more space inside my patches. why pd can't handle automatically this task? if I print a patch, i print ALSO the slider/nbx/radio values, and also the table contents. why there's a checkbox to "remember array contents", while it is not present for those other objects? more complex is to mess with multiple presets. in the attached patch there is one example. to implement multiple presets, the user has to: put the [113 53 70 103( object (which is our "memory") inside a subpatch, connected with [inlet] and [outlet], then when he wants to keep a preset, duplicate that object (ctrl+c/ctrl+v) this one is a way to operate a bit "primitive", but it could just be a task handled interely by pd. why pd doesn't care of saving presets? P.S.: I heard about 'RRADical' patches too... but i can't get 'pool' to compile: $ bash ../flext/build.sh pd gcc build make -f ../flext/buildsys/gnumake-sub.mak PLATFORM=lnx RTSYS=pd COMPILER=gcc BUILDPATH=../flext/buildsys/ PKGINFO=package.txt BUILDCLASS=ext TARGETMODE=release TARGETTYPE=single _build_ make[1]: Entering directory `/home/xaero/pool' g++ -c -msse -mfpmath=sse -ffast-math -DNDEBUG -O3 -march=pentium4 -pthread -fPIC -DFLEXT_SYS=2 -I/usr/local/src/pd/src -I/usr/local/include/flext source/main.cpp -o pd-linux/release-single/main.opp In file included from source/main.cpp:11: source/pool.h:35: error: syntax error before `;' token source/pool.h:80: error: type specifier omitted for parameter `Atoms' source/pool.h:80: error: syntax error before `*' token source/pool.h: In member function `BL flext_single::pooldir::Empty() const': source/pool.h:62: error: syntax error before `;' token source/pool.h:223: error: type specifier omitted for parameter `Atoms' source/pool.h:223: error: syntax error before `*' token source/pool.h:253: error: local class `class flext_single::pooldir::Empty() const::pooldata' shall not have static data member `const A flext_single::pooldir::Empty() const::pooldata::nullatom' [lots of errors] #N canvas 106 177 520 611 10; #X obj 210 144 vsl 15 128 0 127 0 0 empty \$0-atk empty 0 -8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 11300 1; #X obj 240 144 vsl 15 128 0 127 0 0 empty \$0-dec empty 0 -8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 5300 1; #X obj 273 144 vsl 15 128 0 127 0 0 empty \$0-sus empty 0 -8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 7000 1; #X obj 303 144 vsl 15 128 0 127 0 0 empty \$0-rel empty 0 -8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 10300 1; #X msg 261 352 set \$1 \$2 \$3 \$4; #X msg 211 372 113 53 70 103; #X obj 211 392 unpack 0 0 0 0; #X msg 150 226 save; #X obj 211 412 s \$0-atk; #X obj 242 432 s \$0-dec; #X obj 273 452 s \$0-sus; #X obj 304 472 s \$0-rel; #X msg 150 249 load; #X obj 211 292 pack s f f f f; #X obj 211 332 route load save; #X obj 211 352 bang; #X obj 211 312 route list; #X obj 40 44 vsl 15 128 0 127 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X msg 71 65 set \$1; #X msg 71 114 0; #X obj 79 87 loadbang; #X text 30 13 simple state saving object:; #X text 203 110 state saving for array of objects:; #X connect 0 0 13 1; #X connect 1 0 13 2; #X connect 2 0 13 3; #X connect 3 0 13 4; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 8 0; #X connect 6 1 9 0; #X connect 6 2 10 0; #X connect 6 3 11 0; #X connect 7 0 13 0; #X connect 12 0 13 0; #X connect 13 0 16 0; #X connect 14 0 15 0; #X connect 14 1 4 0; #X connect 15 0 5 0; #X connect 16 0 14 0; #X connect 17 0 18 0; #X connect 18 0 19 0; #X connect 19 0 17 0; #X connect 20 0 19 0;

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Gem pix_vid and adc~
by timon botez 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

Hi, Has anyone had problems with incoming sound [adc~] when using pix_video on OSX? I have had this problem with two different cameras - eyeres and Icam - both firewire. Is there an expected sound feed from the firewire that cuts out the internal/external microphone? It appears that [adc~] does not send any signal when the firewire is connected - even when turning on compute sound manually. Thought Id share. Timon.

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Re: [PD] threading soundfiler
by Gregorio G. Karman 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

I am using 64x, but higher rates worked fine for me if not using too heavy DSP processes. Im loading 100 secs files in about a sec. with no drops. cheers > hi, > > what block~ (the number) are you using? > if you have a patch. > > pat > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gregorio G. Karman" <ggkarman(a)musicologia.com> > To: <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 5:04 AM > Subject: Re: [PD] threading soundfiler > > >>hi all, hi miller, > >>the new pd 0.39 can't load sampling without dropping the sound... when >> this >>will be? i really think that it's the basic of live electronic music! >>before >>i was using devel for this feature. > >>am i the only one wishing for this feature to be part of pd? >>pat > > Hi, this topic has been treated several times on the list. I am > succesfully using Miller's suggestion of an oversampled sfread~ using > block~ in a subpatch. > > Good luck > greg. > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >

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Re: question
by zmoelnig＠iem.at 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

hi Quoting $BHSED(B $B=SB@(B <lovesdub(a)hotmail.com>: i guess your name is non-ascii (indian, arabic, kj,...) anyhow > i made pd bat. so you are on windows ? > i`m trying to use gem`s in example folder`s > video files. > when connect with vido camara and > take to try live vision pd will be shut down. > do you have any driver for fix this problem? > whenever you have time please mail me. > shunta > which version of Gem are you running exactly ? you really need gem-0.90.1 could you try the help-patch ( _not_ the example patch) help/pix_videoDS.pd mfg.adsr IOhannes PS: i have forwarded this post to the pd-list, where such questions are usually asked and answered (by more people, and people that have more experience with w32 than me); you should subscribe yourself (if you have not already done so) to this list (else you cannot post)

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threading soundfiler
by patrick 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

hi all, hi miller, the new pd 0.39 can't load sampling without dropping the sound... when this will be? i really think that it's the basic of live electronic music! before i was using devel for this feature. am i the only one wishing for this feature to be part of pd? pat

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Re: reverse operator math
by day 5 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

OK. Here's how I implement it for now: [ (incoming numerical list data from hid) ] | | | [ (timestamp) ] | [ unpack 0 0 ] | [ pack $1 (max value, reverse operator number) ] | [ unpack 0 0] | [ - ] | [ (numerical display) ] what ways are more efficient to do this ?? -d5 On Sep 5, 2005, at 11:21 PM, David Akbari wrote: > Hi List, > > I was wondering if it was at all possible to do reverse operator math > in Pd? > > Example: > > [ ! - ] > [ ! / ] > (from max) > > -d5 > _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Symbol editing, date and time questions
by Chuckk Hubbard 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

First, is it possible to edit a symbol, like delete 2 characters from the end and add 3 others in their place? I'm currently saving each score as 2 files, with different extensions. I can do it fine with a "read" message, but was kind of wishing to allow an openpanel. 2nd, I was considering embedding an authorship message (I know some shady characters who I don't trust), and wondered if it was possible to have Pd query the computer's date automatically? Not a big deal, but I'm curious. Thanks. Chuckk -- "It is not when truth is dirty, but when it is shallow, that the lover of knowledge is reluctant to step into its waters." -Friedrich Nietzsche, "Thus Spoke Zarathustra"

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Re: [PD-announce] .. confirmed ... pd workshop in ASCII [ free!! ]
by \js 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

hi On 9/6/05, Yves Degoyon <ydegoyon(a)free.fr> wrote: > http://www.scii.nl/courses/puredata > and, respecting ASCII's philosophy, > it will only work with donations ... very nice. if i lived in europe, i would go. and donating your time like that is very generous of you. in america, sometimes it's hard to remember that there are people in the world who do see a larger picture than immediate financial gain. so, thx for reminding me ... -- \js [ http://or8.net/~johns/ ]

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Graph on Parent on Parent is seriously broken in 0.39
by Frank Barknecht 06 Sep '05

06 Sep '05

Hi, forgot to send this to pd-list as well. Until this is fixed, you may want avoid saving your old GOP abstractions while using 0.39 as it can really break things very badly. Attached patches illustrate a nasty bug with Pd's new GOP code. Using multiple levels of GOP will result in invisible parts of the underlying abstractions. This happens both with subpatch-GOPs as with abstraction-GOPs. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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