Pd-list September 2005

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pd 0.39 XP bugs
by Thomas O Fredericks 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

You cannot set as an extra helpath a path with spaces. I tried: -helppath C:/Documents and Settings/tom/My Documents/Pure Data/doc/5.reference Once you set verbose mode, it stays in verbose mode even if it is not declared in the startup flags or in the registry. Oohh. I finally got verbose do disengage by checking the checkbox in Path... then unchecking it! Tom

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installing Gridflow on os x 10.3.9 or 10.4.2
by Paris Treantafeles 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

Hi List, I'm trying to get Gridflow working on one of two machine - one os x 10.3.9 the other 10.4.2 and failing at the "make" part of the instructions at: http://artengine.ca/gridflow/latest/doc/ install.html#Installation_instructions_(incl._compilation) - at some point in the process, i get hundreds of error of they type: base/grid.o:81: error: stray '\2' in program but with various other numbers for '\2' I have fink and have installed ruby and all of the lib's mentioned on the above page installed. I'm sure I'm just being stupid. I read this: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-04/027802.html but wonder if it's not possible to use Gridflow with Han-Christoph's pd-app? The posting seems to indicate that PD itself must be compiled (item 4 of post). Any help appreciated! Thanks, p

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[Fwd: [dorkbotsf-blabber] NIME '06 call]
by shift8 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

-------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Sasha Harris-Cronin <sasha(a)mortalspaces.com> To: Dorkbot-Blabber <dorkbotsf-blabber(a)dorkbot.org> Subject: [dorkbotsf-blabber] NIME '06 call Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:54:24 -0700 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NIME 2006 - First Call for Participation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6th International Conference on NEW INTERFACES FOR MUSICAL EXPRESSION IRCAM, Paris - France June 5-7 2006 http://nime06.ircam.fr/ nime06(a)ircam.fr -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On behalf of the NIME 2006 Committee, we would like to invite you to be part of the 6th international conference on New Interfaces for Musical Expression conference, organized by IRCAM (Centre Pompidou) in collaboration with the MINT-OMF (Sorbonne University) in Paris. The conference will be held in conjunction with IRCAM's annual Festival of Performing Arts Agora and the Music Technology Convention Résonances, joined for the first time in 2006 to form a single event running from June 1st to June 17th. NIME 06 will provide a unique opportunity to confer with an interdisciplinary audience of artists, scientists and technologists on the latest developments in musical interface design and musical expression. The meeting will also offer the possibility to network with a flourishing local scene of interface and instrument makers, research labs, and computer music institutions. We would like to encourage contributions in the following formats: * Papers/Reports/Posters/Demos * Live performances * Interactive installations Please subscribe to the NIME 06 community mailing list at http://listes.ircam.fr/sympa/info/nime06-community. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT DATES Submission deadlines - January 1st 2006: installation and performance proposals - January 31th 2006: papers/reports/posters/demos Notification of acceptance - February 15th 2006: installation and performance proposals - March 15th 2006: papers/reports/posters/demos Registration deadlines - April 15th 2006: early registration (reduced fee) Final paper submission deadline - April 15th 2006 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PAPERS/POSTERS AND DEMOS We invite the submission of research papers, reports, posters, and demos on topics related to new musical controllers including, but not restricted to: * Novel controllers and interfaces for musical expression * Novel controllers for collaborative performance * Novel musical instruments * Augmented/hyper instruments * Interfaces for dance and physical expression * Interactive sound and multimedia installations * Interactive sonification * Sensor and actuator technologies * Haptic and force feedback devices * Interface protocols and data formats * Gesture and music * Perceptual & cognitive issues * Interactivity design and software tools * Musical mapping strategies * Performance analysis and machine learning * Performance rendering and generative algorithms * Experiences with novel interfaces in education and entertainment * Experiences with novel interfaces in live performance and composition * Surveys of past work and stimulating ideas for future research * Historical studies in twentieth-century instrument design * Reports on students projects in the framework of NIME related courses * Artistic, cultural, and social impact of NIME technology Submission types are: - Full Paper (6 pages in proceedings, oral presentation) - Short Paper (4 pages in proceedings, oral presentation) - Poster (2 or 4 pages in proceedings) Although brief demonstrations can be shown during paper sessions, NIME 06 will give the possibility to schedule demo presentations in dedicated demo sessions. The submission procedure will allow to choose an explicit demo option for any paper or poster submission. The simplest demo submission would take the form of a short poster summarizing the scientific/technical aspects, acquired experiences and/or the context of the development. Please refer to the NIME 06 web page for detailed submission information. (For presentations of commercial products and companies not associated with a conference submission, there will be exhibit booths. Please contact Vincent.Puig(a)ircam.fr) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SPECIAL SESSION ON VIOLIN-BASED AND VIOLIN-INSPIRED INTERFACES We encourage the submission of papers to be presented in a special session on violin-based and violin-inspired interfaces. The purpose of this special session is to create an opportunity for in-depth discussions on a topic of wide-ranging interest to several of the NIME themes. Papers for the special session will be subject to the same review process as the other submissions. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LIVE PERFORMANCES An evening concert during the conference will be dedicated to live performances hilighting creative use of interactive instrument technology. We welcome proposals for performances to be featured in the NIME 06 concert. Please refer to the NIME 06 web page for detailed submission requirements. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INTERACTIVE INSTALLATIONS Various spaces in and around the conference venue are reserved for interactive sound and multimedia installations. We welcome proposals for interactive installations to be presented during the conference. We particularly encourage installations that could run during the entire period of Agora/Résonances from June 1 to June 17. While some of the spaces are closed rooms, others are open spaces such as entrance or stairs which encourage site-specific installations. Dimensions and details about these spaces are available from the organizing committee. In all cases, the participant must provide their equipment for the installation. Please refer to the NIME 06 web page for detailed submission requirements and descriptions of the provided installation spaces. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMITTEE Conference Chairs Norbert Schnell (IRCAM) Frederic Bevilacqua (IRCAM) Paper and Poster Chair Michael Lyons (ATR Japan) Performance and Installation Chair Atau Tanaka (Sony CSL Paris) Demo Chair Emmanuel Fléty (IRCAM) Proceeding Editor Marc Battier (MINT-OMF Sorbonne) Administrative coordinator Sylvie Benoit (IRCAM) NIME Steering Committee Ivan Poupyrev Michael Lyons Tina Blaine Atau Tanaka Joe Paradiso Marcelo Wanderley Sile O'Modhrain Sidney Fels Yoichi Nagashima ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sylvie Benoit NIME 06 administrative coordinator Web: http://nime06.ircam.fr Organisation committee: nime06(a)ircam.fr IRCAM 1, place Igor-Stravinsky F- 75004 PARIS fax : +33-0144781540 tel : +33-0144784253 --sasha harris.cronin--- -sasha(a)mortalspaces.com- ------415.516.2049------ ........................................................................ .........dorkbot: people doing strange things with electricity.......... ..........................http://dorkbot.org............................ ........................................................................ --

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Dumb (?) [ctlin] question
by Urs Liska 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

Hello list, I'm feeling a little bit dumb, but is it really not possible to restrict the output of [ctlin] to input from a specific channel (but all CC#s)? As far as I can see it is only possible to filter by a CC number (on all channels) or a channel _and_ a CC number. I helped myself with a little abstraction but I can't believe it is not possible with the module itself. Can anybody tell me how that is working? Thanks Urs -- Urs Liska GlÃŒmerstr. 5 D-79102 Freiburg www.graft-music.com www.suono-mobile.de [Pd 0.39.0, WinXP]

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Mootcher update
by Jorn Lemon (MTG) 14 Sep '05

14 Sep '05

Hi all, The Mootcher has been updated to version 1.3. Complete with updated helpfiles. Download the latest version from the freesound website http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/mootcher.php The Mootcher is a opensource external which makes it possible to make a connection to The Freesound Project audio database. Enjoy! Cheers, Jorn

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PD MIDI internals
by Jamie Bullock 14 Sep '05

14 Sep '05

Hi, Can anyone recommend a way to obtain MIDI data internally for an external, that is, in the manner that inmidi_noteon() is used for PD's builtin MIDI objects? ... or is it best to get the values via an inlet? Thanks, Jamie

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announcing PureMeasurement
by Matthias Blau 14 Sep '05

14 Sep '05

Hi list, this is to tell you that the first version of PureMeasurement is available for download: http://www.hoertechnik-audiologie.de/index.php?p=602 PureMeasurement is a collection of pd-patches (requiring iemlib) aimed at providing students and researchers with tools to perform acoustical measurements using audio interfaces. Feedback welcome! --Matthias

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[feature request] argument for open-msg
by Roman Haefeli 14 Sep '05

14 Sep '05

hi when you open a patch by msg like [; pd open mypatch.pd .( . is the directory, where pd was started from. but when you read a file with [soundfiler] or [textfile], . is the directory where the patch is saved. why this difference? it is no problem to share a patch with soundfiles, if you share the whole directory, containing the patch and the soundfiles, if you specify the soundfiles relatively. but if you share a patch, that opens other patches by msgs, you need to specify the path (in a msg or in an external textfile) of the main-directory in order to have all things work correctly. i'd propose to add an argument to the open-msg: [; pd open mypatch.pd . 1( opens the mypatch.pd relatively to the patch where this msg is in. 0 : takes the pd start location as root (in order to keep compatibility) 1 : takes the patch-root or is there another solution for this problem? cheers roman ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de

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Re: [PD-announce] object for midi interface
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 14 Sep '05

14 Sep '05

If its a MIDI device, then use the standard MIDI objects like [midiin], [noteout], etc. .hc On Sep 7, 2005, at 2:27 AM, jeff gburek wrote: > hello, i'm new to the list. i am trying to develop a > pd environment to work with the junxion box offered by > steim. any clues how to go about this? what objects > should i look for? i am sorry if this doesn't make > sense, but i will explain more if i can contact > someone... best, jeff > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > _______________________________________________ > PD-announce mailing list > PD-announce(a)iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > ________________________________________________________________________ ____ There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste

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Behaviour of nested GoP abstractions
by Urs Liska 14 Sep '05

14 Sep '05

Hello list, I have two questions concerning the behaviour of GoP abstractions that are nested in subpatches. 1) What's the behaviour of GUI objects that are not visible because they are in subpatches? Are they updated anyway and use computation time for this? Or from the practical point of view: Do I have to accept a performance penalty if I use a GoP abstraction although I don't need the GoP visual feedback? The point is that I have a few GoP abstractions that I sometimes would like to use without needing the GoP feature (because they are located in invisible subpatches). I wouldn't like to duplicate the code to have two versions of the abstraction (one GoP and one without). If I then have an abstraction with a rather heavy GUI load (but not visible), would that have impact on the performance of the patch? 2) Is it impossible to nest GoP abstractions? I tried to place a GoP abstraction in the GoP area of a subpatch. When the subpatch is closed I can see the abstraction as an object with its in- and outlets and correct size but without the GUI objects of the abstraction. Did I miss something? Is this by design? Is this a fault? Thanks for any hints Urs -- Urs Liska GlÃŒmerstr. 5 D-79102 Freiburg www.graft-music.com www.suonomobile.de [Pd 0.39.0, WinXP]

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