Pd-list September 2005

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Fwd: Re: [PD] mp3cast~ (once again sorry)
by acracia＠riseup.net 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Ok, just let me suggest you next time to look for OSC libraries, that help very much on "cross-plattforming" things or making your way to linux more unnoticed... maybe you are used to php, by example. and maybe if you colaborate with the dvelopment of linux free flash developments, such as http://f4l.sourceforge.net/ (screenshot http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=87799&ssid=9714 ) you'll be able sooner to work in the language you like in a more free way good luck tati Quoting clemos <cl3mos(a)gmail.com>: > the thing is becoming <off topic> but : > I do use linux more and more often, and actually really love it. > yet I still use windows for two main reasons : > - I'm a Flash developper (and I know it's really really evil, but it's > a thing I do well enough to earn money...) > - I do use windows during performances, because my (video)work deals > with glitch and the corpo-entertainment clichés, and thus uses > massively the M$ aesthetic. the goal is more or less to crash windows > in a "nice" graphical way while a friend of mine produces audio > noise... > (-third reason: I do use MS systems since Basic 1.0 when I was 8, so > that I'm quite "used" to them) > > the project for which I wanted to use mp3cast~ uses Flash and Flash > Communication Server (oooooh god!... but FCS is installed on a linux > box...), I just have three days left to setup all the stuff, and don't > have time (and am not expert enough) to setup a linux system for that, > with all the problems I could meet, and all the time I should spend > reading docs to solve them... moreover the artists for which I'm > working don't know linux at all... > > that's all I wanted to say for my "defense" :) > > </offtopic> > > On 9/16/05, acracia(a)riseup.net <acracia(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > Quoting clemos <cl3mos(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > ok, I understand :) > > > it's a pity, but since I can't move all the other stuff to Linux, I > > > won't use pd at all, > > > > > > but anyway, since I'm already half evil, let me go further to the dark > side. > > > > > > > hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side instead!! > > > > in case you want to come back to PD, in r23.cc (not online today, i'm > afraid.. > > drupal-spamming stuff) we are using a lot of mp3cast~ mp3write~ oggcast~ > and > > oggwrite~... running in linux...we can lend you a hand > > > > this thread remembers me a Frank Zappa saying: > > > > "If we cannot be free, at least we can be cheap" > > > > > > kisss > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ____________________________________________________________________________ Linux registered user #352209 @ http://counter.li.org "Well behaved women seldom make History" Laurel Thatcher Ulrich. ----- End forwarded message ----- ____________________________________________________________________________ Linux registered user #352209 @ http://counter.li.org "Well behaved women seldom make History" Laurel Thatcher Ulrich.

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vi syntax mode for PD C code
by Jamie Bullock 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Hi, Does anyone have a vim C syntax file that includes definitions for PD's built in data types etc. that they would be willing to share? It's so depressing seeing all those types in grey! -- Regards, Jamie

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Trademark (was Re: getting ripped off...)
by Chris McCormick 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:15:46AM +0200, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:12:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)artengine.ca> > Subject: Re: [PD] getting ripped off... > To: Chuckk Hubbard <badmuthahubbard(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Pure Data List <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0509151803380.30963(a)web.artengine.ca> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > PureData is a programming language. The Diagram is the Program (tm). A Matju, I have to ask - you don't really have a trademark on this statement do you? Best, Chris. ------------------- chris(a)mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx

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help installing OSC and compilers
by Phillip Stearns 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Is there a distribution of OSC for windows? Do I need a compiler? What compilers should I get? -Phil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Closing patches via pd message
by Piotr Majdak 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Hi! Closing a path pd asks me if I'm sure since 0.39. This is annoying and has been discussed here, but I can live with that. Unfortunately, I found a real big problem around this bug: closing a patch via the pd message "menuclose", pd stops and asks "sure or not". This requires user interaction, which I wanted to avoid with the pd message. Can I send to pd a message like "ctrl-shift-w", which means, close without any questions? br, Piotr -- Piotr Majdak Institut fÃ¼r Schallforschung Ãsterreichische Akademie der Wissenschaften Reichsratsstr. 17 A-1010 Wien Tel.: +43-1-4277-29511 Fax: +43-1-4277-9296 E-Mail: piotr(a)majdak.com WWW: http://www.kfs.oeaw.ac.at

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seperate GUI communication protocol?
by Jelle Herold 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Dear list, I am trying to remove the Tk gui from pd and use it just as an engine and do the patch editing programatically, i.e. replace the GUI by a (python) program. Reading through the pd sourcecode it seemed to me that the Tk gui is seperated from the pd core and communication takes place through a socket. Is this right, or am I completely off? If so, is this the best way to control pd programmatically? And is this protocol documented somewhere? Or where should I look in the sourcecode? If not, what would be the best way to remove the Tk gui from pd? Again maybe someone can point me at the right place to start digging in the pd sourcecode. Finally, is there some general document on the pd software architecture / implementation? Thanks for your time, regards Jelle

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getting ripped off...
by Chuckk Hubbard 16 Sep '05

16 Sep '05

Hi. I was trying to set up an independent study at my school for this JI sequencer I've been creating. The head of the composition department, since no one here knows anything like this, spoke to someone at nearby WestChester who works with Max, and said he would get a list of things for me to do and give it to my comp teacher. I'm not keen on this, because I don't trust the guy to have any idea what my goal is. But then someone told me today about some fine print clause somewhere that says University of the Arts owns anything someone creates while they're here. Luckily, since no one here understands either the tuning systems or the inner workings of a PD patch, them knowing what I had in mind doesn't help them if they don't actually have it. So what I'm wondering is, is there such a thing as ownership with a PD patch? Can anyone direct me to info on this? I'd like to be prepared for anything this little trade school might try. Thanks. -Chuckk -- "It is not when truth is dirty, but when it is shallow, that the lover of knowledge is reluctant to step into its waters." -Friedrich Nietzsche, "Thus Spoke Zarathustra"

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[Fwd: Re: [PD] seperate GUI communication protocol?]
by pd＠ursliska.de 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

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Re: [PD] send GET with netclient (pd <-> php)
by Rune Lain Knudsen 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

The strange thing about this is that I've managed sometimes to download a webpage(that is, getting it printed on the console as a textstream), so it seems to be possible. However this usually works the first time I open the patch, connect to a webpage and send a GET request. After the first download I'm unable to download it once more, even though I try to disconect/connect all over again. The example patch I've posted is a bit of a hassle though as it tries to get an xml, for troubleshooting purposes I think it's better to fetch a normal .html page somewhere else. Rune >>hi carmen >> >>you're right. i wanted to say, that it is may not possible in pd itself >>(or is it?), since i know enrique and that he rather not uses pd with >>another script-language. >> >>cheers >> >>"carmen" wrote: >> >> >>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 04:26:36PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: >>> > hi eni >>> > >>> > i thinks its no way that you can make HTTP GET-requests with pd >>> >>> why not? with python: >>> >>> import urllib >>> data = urllib.urlopen('http://www.blahblah/').read() >>> (pyext output crap here) >> >> >> >> >> >> >>___________________________________________________________ >>Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de >> >>_______________________________________________ >>PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >In which city did seven people die of West Nile Virus in 1999? > >postmaster.co.uk >http://www.postmaster.co.uk/cgi-bin/meme/quiz.pl?id=19 _______________________________________________________________ What was established in 1891, which altered the nature of publishing? postmaster.co.uk http://www.postmaster.co.uk/cgi-bin/meme/quiz.pl?id=274

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Re: [PD] delay on startup and startup flags under OSX
by Samuel Burt 15 Sep '05

15 Sep '05

Yep, I've been getting similar delays in 10.3.9 with a modified version of Hans installer. I just launched Pd from the command line inside the .app/Contents/MacOS/ folder. I'm not sure if I need to pass it some other flags, but I got a long stream of unending MIDI commentary that continues on through the normal operation of Pd: goomba:/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC2-SB.app/Contents/MacOS sburt$ ./Pd DebugAssert: Third Party Client: err== noErr [-536870163] [line 283, file Shared/USBDevice.cpp] device @ 0x1A100000 - can't get descriptor 2005-09-02 11:47:37.537 MIDIServer[591] receiving message (running:1 messageID:1 size:35) 2005-09-02 11:47:37.538 MIDIServer[591] MIDI in length:1 data:FE000000 source:9810035 and it just keeps repeating the last two messages over and over. I even tried switching the MIDI in to a different device. Are these statement just part of the normal running of Pd? Also, the -nogui flag doesn't seem to work for me, either. I haven't noticed any problems with my Pd installation running poorly with audio or MIDI. I'm not too concerned about it, but I hope sharing my information helps debug the problem. Samuel Burt Message: 6 Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:12:28 +0200 From: altern <altern2(a)gmail.com> Subject: [PD] delay on startup and startup flags under OSX To: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <431841AC.8050801(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed hi *first question: few months ago I was asking about a strange delay that i was getting when launching PD on OSX. When i run Pd it opens and it takes few secs to react or to open the clicked file. I wrote a small script to lauch pd and I realised that on the terminal of the laucn script i get this mesage exactly when Pd comes 'back to life' CoreMIDI: timeout waiting for MIDIServer to start So i guess it is waiting for some MIDI device on the system to start or respond. anyone knows how to fix this? i dont use midi at all *Second question: in the same script i am passing PD some startup flags such as -nogui but this doesnt have any effect. Does this work under OSX or am i doing something wrong. thanks! -- altern

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