Pd-list August 2004

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how can i differentiate same abstractions in different patches?
by Roman Haefeli 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

hi there is an abstraction that is now very often used in my patches. now i'd like to modify this abs to get a new feature. for this i need to send a bang-msg to all abstractions within a patch, but not to the ones in other patches. i wonder if there is a way without having to change all abs [my_abs] in my patches into [myabs $0] or [myabs nameofpatch]. is there a way to get the name of the parent patch? ($0 of parent patch to use as an identifyer would be useless in my case because different people uses the same patch for a net-project, so everyone has his own $0. the name of parent patch would be a good indentifyer) thanks roman

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how can i differentiate same abstractions in different patches?
by abel.jerome＠free.fr 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

For differentiate same abstractions, write an argument like a float or a symbol. And to see it in your absractions, create : bang | f $1 | print

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Problems running PD/GEM in Win XP Professional
by type_non 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

I have a project where i use PD/GEM. Unfortunately my old laptop broke up so i had to copy all the stuff to a new one. I used to have XP Home but on this one i have the Pro version. I copied all the pd directory and all the needed stuff, but i can't get my patches to work in the new laptop. I open the patches and when i play them, pd crashes. All my patches have video (DivX) that used to load fine in the old laptop but i can't get them to work in this new one. I installed the DivX codecs, of course, but it doesn't work. One thing that i noticed between XP Home and the Pro, is that in Adobe Premiere, when trying to export a video, i had a list with all the codecs (Cinepak, DivX, etc.) but not in XP Pro, where i only have Xvid. I suspect that GEM isn't finding the DIvX codec, but i installed it and i can see the videos in Media Player... Any idea how can i resolve this? Btw, pd is 0.35-1 and GEM 0.87. I tried to install newer versions but the problem persists. Best regards. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

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Re: Pd 0.37.4 app test release for MacOS X
by Mac 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

High all, Pd.app fails on my G3 266 384M X.2.8. Problem wit libsystem.b.dylib. This library seems to be the source of a number of problems for me. I believe the problem has something to do with changes to library structures between 10.1 and 10.2; would moving to 10.3 solve my dilemna? Any suggestions. Pd .37.2 runs OK from command line but JACK (jackosx) fails to implement properly - not at the machine so can't give more info right now; had hoped that the .app version would solve the problem, but it didn't. Any suggestions/solutions/further questions would be appreciated. First posting - new to the list so go easy on me please.

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GEM BUGS
by López José Alejandro 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

UNDER FEDORA I RUN GEM. THE PIX_FILM AND PIX_VIDEO DON'T WORK. ALSO THE FULL SCREEN FUNCTION DOES NOT ALLOW TO USE THE OTHERS WINDOWS, SO IT IS NOT EVEN POSSIBLE TO ACTIVATE THE RENDER BUTTON

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lic cyclone
by metafor 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

hi list i try to use lib cyclone on debian with pd 0.37.4 (from apt) i use the binaries from here: http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/cyclone.html but after startup with -lib cyclone i get the following errors: this is cyclone 0.1, 49th alpha build hammer.pd_linux/hammer.pd_linux: hammer.pd_linux/hammer.pd_linux: cannot open shared object file: Not a directory sickle.pd_linux/sickle.pd_linux: sickle.pd_linux/sickle.pd_linux: cannot open shared object file: Not a directory dummies.pd_linux/dummies.pd_linux: dummies.pd_linux/dummies.pd_linux: cannot open shared object file: Not a directory error (miXed): version mismatch use a more recent Pd release (or recompile the cyclone). i tried to recompile cyclone with make, which gives me no error, but i do not see any pd_linux libraries. the last lines after the make command: on/sq.o ../../shared/common/bifi.o ../../shared/common/mifi.o ../../shared/common/binport.o ../../shared/common/port.o ../../shared/hammer/file.o ../../shared/hammer/gui.o ../../shared/hammer/tree.o hammer.c make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/metafor/cyclone/hammer' make[1]: Entering directory `/home/metafor/cyclone/sickle' gcc-2.95 -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -DUNIX -I. -I../../../../pd/src -I../../shared -c -o allsickles.o allsickles.c gcc-2.95 -o ../../bin/sickle.pd_linux -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -DUNIX -I. -I../../../../pd/src -I../../shared -export_dynamic -shared ./allsickles.o ./abs.o ./acos.o ./acosh.o ./allpass.o ./asin.o ./asinh.o ./atan.o ./atan2.o ./atanh.o ./average.o ./avg.o ./bitand.o ./bitnot.o ./bitor.o ./bitshift.o ./bitxor.o ./buffir.o ./capture.o ./cartopol.o ./change.o ./click.o ./Clip.o ./comb.o ./cosh.o ./cosx.o ./count.o ./curve.o ./cycle.o ./delay.o ./delta.o ./deltaclip.o ./edge.o ./frameaccum.o ./framedelta.o ./index.o ./kink.o ./Line.o ./linedrive.o ./log.o ./lookup.o ./lores.o ./maximum.o ./minimum.o ./minmax.o ./mstosamps.o ./onepole.o ./peakamp.o ./peek.o ./phasewrap.o ./pink.o ./play.o ./poke.o ./poltocar.o ./pong.o ./pow.o ./rand.o ./rampsmooth.o ./record.o ./reson.o ./sah.o ./sampstoms.o ./Scope.o ./sinh.o ./sinx.o ./slide.o ./Snapshot.o ./spike.o ./svf.o ./tanh.o ./tanx.o ./train.o ./trapezoid.o ./triangle.o ./vectral.o ./wave.o ./zerox.o ../../shared/unstable/forky.o ../../shared/unstable/fragile.o ../../shared/unstable/fringe.o ../../shared/common/loud.o ../../shared/common/grow.o ../../shared/common/vefl.o ../../shared/common/binport.o ../../shared/common/port.o ../../shared/hammer/file.o ../../shared/sickle/sic.o ../../shared/sickle/arsic.o sickle.c make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/metafor/cyclone/sickle' what do i have to do get cyclone running? thx

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GridFlow 0.7.6
by Mathieu Bouchard 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

Here is a new release of GridFlow, a multi-dimensional dataflow processing library for PureData, Ruby and jMax, designed for interactive arts. http://artengine.ca/gridflow/ http://artengine.ca/gridflow/download/gridflow-0.7.6.tar.gz If you have any questions and/or want to talk, there is the #dataflow chatroom on IRC.FreeNode.Net, where Pd/jMax/MAX-like software is on-topic. If you have any trouble installing GridFlow (or have any questions), please send me an email about it, or see me on IRC. /* $Id: ChangeLog,v 1.86 2004/03/23 01:41:35 matju Exp $ */ version 0.7.6 (2004.03.22): * GridFlow runs on MacOS 10.2 (only with jMax 2.5) * [@out quartz] makes a native MacOS (Cocoa+Quartz) window (warning: very buggy) * support for Apple QuickTime movie decoding (format/quicktimeapple.c) * file suffix detector is now extensible * added: Ruby interface for libUSB (base/usb.c) * x11: now emits "keypress" and "keyrelease" messages * [@downscale_by] now supports 4 channels (therefore [peephole] does too) * fixed bugs in: x11, @draw_image, @import, @export, ... * "open x11" now allows any DISPLAY spec * now includes the pictures used in the examples (not a separate download anymore) * [@out x11 here override_redirect] (override window manager; be careful with this) * [pd_netsocket] does like netsend/netreceive] but two-way (warning: not complete yet) * support for nested lists in incoming messages * new object classes: [delcom_usb]: support for Delcom USB I/O controller [joystick_port]: support for linux joystick drivers [foreach], [rubysprintf], [listflatten] [messageprepend], [messageappend], [@transpose] [@fade], [@centroid] jMax emulation: [listmake], [listlength], [listelement], [listsublist] jMax emulation: [listprepend], [listappend], [listreverse], [oneshot] jMax emulation: [inv+], [inv*] [messageprepend], [messageappend], [@transpose] * Pd main window: adding GridFlow menu; Ruby/Tcl evaluators (with command-history) * added bin/jmax2pd (converts .jmax files to .pd files) * ported all .jmax examples to .pd (using jmax2pd) (20 out of 20) * support for variable number of inlets/outlets (only with PureData) the previous version was released on 2002.09.28 and was numbered 0.7.5. ________________________________________________________________ Mathieu Bouchard http://artengine.ca/matju

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Fwd: [PD] random seed
by slimboyfatboyslim 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

開始轉寄郵件： > 寄件人: slimboyfatboyslim <slimboyfatboyslim(a)slimboyfatboyslim.org> > 日期: 2004 年 4 月 18 日，週日 12:54:16AM Europe/Stockholm > 收件人: derek holzer <derek(a)x-i.net> > 標題: Re: [PD] random seed > > yup, I experienced that in both PD and Max, actually it seems the > seeds is not working.... > > “derek holzer”於 2004 年 4 月 18 日，週日 01:14AM 提到： > >> ...and another thing... >> >> has anybody noticed that it doesn't seem to matter what seed you give >> the [random] object, it just goes through the same sequence every >> time. At least on Linux. I remember different form windoze. Maybe >> there's a better way to generate a proper random seed? >> >> d. >> >> >> -- >> derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl >> ---Oblique Strategy # 207: >> "Take away as much mystery as possible. What is left?" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list mailing list >> PD-list(a)iem.at >> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > slimboyfatboyslim > http://www.slimboyfatboyslim.org > slimboyfatboyslim http://www.slimboyfatboyslim.org

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Re: Rounding errors in osc~?
by Andres Cabrera 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

Hi, Thanks Mathieu, Iohannes and Tim for your replies, and sorry for my late answer (I was out of town). To my surprise it had to do with the phases as you suggested. I was amazed to find that setting all the phases of the osc~ 's to 0.25 simultaneously, yields the saw wave I was looking for. Thanks, Andres

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Re: [PD] Debian packages on Sid - missing externals]
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

Matthias Blau wrote: > Hi > are not available. Actually, almost all help patches from iemlib and > zexy fail because one or more objects aren't there. > > Am I missing something? yes. if one zexy-object is not there, none is there. so the problem is, that you have loaded neither the zexy-lib nor the iemlib's. debian's pd does not load installed externals automatically. you have to call them yourself (e.g. by adding a "-lib zexy:iemlib1:iemlib2" to your ~/.pdrc file of add it to the command-line when calling pd. (note: there is a similar bug-report against debian's "gem"-package, which is not loaded automatically either; i am not sure, whether this is really a bug) mfg.a.sdr IOhannes

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