Pd-list April 2004

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THANKS!!
by ULStudent:Adrian.deCleir 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Ok guys its a been a year and you have all played your part in PD project by answering my genious questions!!! Thank you and GoodBye

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please tak eme off this list:thanks so
by the_puma 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

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shell
by roc 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

yo i'm trying to use [shell] to perform some commands that would run an app from the command line but the already active shell (the one running pd) won't do that is there a way of launching a new terminal window from [shell] and execute these commands from that one? i tried giving an argument like [shell ttyp2] but i guess that's too naive ;-) i'm on osx jaguar and 0.36 thnkee r -------------------- %evol--------http://www.mego.at/evol.html %alku--------http://personal.ilimit.es/principio %imbécil----http://imbecil.net

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RE: [PD] GEM + Logitech Quickcam = no textures
by Ian Smith-Heisters 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

I got the kernel compiled and pwcx installed. I behaves similarly, except for an added message in kern.log: pwc decode_size = 1 pwc set_video_mode(160x120 @ 10, palette 15) This is the output from Gem, which looks just about the same as before the new kernel and modules. starting transfer cap: name Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 type 1 channels 1 maxw 640 maxh 480 minw 160 minh 120 picture: brightness 31744 depth 24 palette 15 channel 0 name Webcam type 2 flags 0 setting to channel 0 buffer size 921600, frames 2, offset 0 460800 wanted format is 0x1908 setting cmcapture to 160x120 5 now trying standard palette 15 frame 0 0, format 15, width 160, height 120 GEM: pix_video: Opened video connection C vmmap 825A264 VIDIOCSYNC: Invalid argument stop transfer Now, with block and p2s-s2p the cube is mapped with a blurry garble and intermittent fuzzy cyan dots. But this is different distortion than I was getting before, it's similiar to using p2s-s2p w/out the block object on the old kernel. The new kernel is 2.6.5 with pwc/x 0.9 beta. I'm stumped at this point, so help of any kind would be great. -Ian > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [PD] GEM + Logitech Quickcam = no textures > From: gml(a)xs4all.nl > Date: Wed, April 28, 2004 7:01 am > To: "Ian Smith-Heisters" <heisters(a)0x09.com> > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > > For what it's worth, > I never got my logitech quickcam notebook pro working _without_ pwcx. > With it it is working fine. (except that I have to unplug it and plug > it > in again if pdp closed it/crashed. Otherwise I get a blackout every > second > or so. With Gem it just works. > > I am using the 0.9 beta drivers. > > Gerard > > > > > > > Yep. That did the trick. The image was very garbled and it ate up > ~30% of > > my processor cycles, but it worked. > > I'm still going to try kernel compilation and pcwx, but I don't think > that > > will fix it. > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list

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the "config-pd-msvc.txt" file
by Gabriel Boudard 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

I apology for a such newbee's question but there is some points in the config-pd-msvc.txt that I do not understand : I have fill the path: # where is PD? # where should flext libraries be built? and comment out : # where is MS VC++? # where is the pthreads package? # where is the SndObj directory? #SNDOBJ=f:\prog\audio\sndobj # where is the STK include directory? # where should flext libraries be installed? I do not understand the following lines and it should be a problem because I use MSVC6, by default I also put it in comment. # user-definable compiler flags # e.g. FLEXT_USE_SIMD enables SIMD support for capable CPUs (for MSVC6, you need the Processor Pack) #UFLAGS=/DFLEXT_USE_SIMD /G6 /arch:SSE Actually when I run "build-pd-msvc.bat" a folder "s" is create in the specifiied folder it is empty and I obtain this text in cmd: C:\gabriel\flext>C:\gabriel\flext\build-pd-msvc.bat --- Building flext with MS Visual C++ --- C:\gabriel\flext>nmake -f makefile.pd-msvc clean Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 6.00.8168.0 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1988-1998. All rights reserved. nmake /f make-inc.pd-msvc clean Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 6.00.8168.0 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1988-1998. All rights reserved. cd c:\gabriel\flext\lib del /s /q s > nul rmdir s cd .. del /q c:\gabriel\flext\lib\flext-pdwin.lib > nul Could Not Find c:\gabriel\flext\lib\flext-pdwin.lib rmdir c:\gabriel\flext\lib C:\gabriel\flext>nmake -f makefile.pd-msvc Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 6.00.8168.0 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1988-1998. All rights reserved. nmake /f make-inc.pd-msvc NAME=flext Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 6.00.8168.0 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1988-1998. All rights reserved. cl /c /GX /GD /Ox /ML /DFLEXT_SYS=2 /Ic:\pds\Pd_ch_20040227\bin\src /Is ource /Foc:\gabriel\flext\lib\s\flbase.obj source\flbase.cpp Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 12.00.8168 for 80x86 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1984-1998. All rights reserved. flbase.cpp source\flstdc.h(55) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'm_pd.h': No such file or directory NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'cl' : return code '0x2' Stop. NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'D:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\VC98\BIN\NMAKE.EXE' : return co de '0x2' Stop. Thank you for your help

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additive synth
by Stefan Turner 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

hi list, has anyone written an external for additive synthesis? using loads of osc~s really is way too slow... if not i'll give it a go myself. or is it possible to use rifft~ (or whichever one it is) for this? cheers stefan. ____________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

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more than 2 dac/adc's
by pdlist＠jlndrr.net 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Hi, > we did a sound > installation using 4 crappy consumer soundcards all controlled by one > pd > process, and it worked Do you think it's possible on OS X 10.3? With the packaged installer for OS X, as I posted earlier I couldn't even use a different number of ADC and DAC channels (Apparently a portaudio limitation, reported a list member) I used Soundflower virtual sound card as a trick. So if you can share you experience, I will be delighted I first had two separate goals: 1- Use my 6 channels sound card when I have only 2 channels input. This one is fixed by the use of Sound Flower. 2- Use a lot of cheap USB sound card for mic INPUT, say 10 * 2 Inputs. I suppose clock will not be a problem for Inputs? But I can't see how to do this one... Thanks all, jln > > IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > just to reiterate this for the archives with an anecdote: we did a > sound > installation using 4 crappy consumer soundcards all controlled by one > pd > process, and it worked, but the slight differences in each cards time > sync meant that there were noticable clicks'n'pops and grinding sounds > from the cards different cards. its a good way to do something for fun > on the cheap, but *not* hifi in any way. > >> this depends. >> pd can not handle multiple soundcards that provide their own >> reference-clock to get the sampling-rate. if you have two (say) >> soundblaster-cards, chances are very low that their clocks will be >> exactly the same, e.g. one card will be clocked at 44100Hz and the >> other at 44098Hz. the 2 cards will get out of sync and after some time >> you will get a dac-slip on one of your outputs. >> >> however, some cards can be synced - either by slaving them to >> wordclock or some digital audio signal (if they have digital I/O) or >> via some special onboard sync-cable (RMEhammerfall-cards have this >> feature so you can stack 2 cards) >> >> how else am i supposed to get 48 channels out of my computer (in times >> prior to MADI) ? >> > --

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RE: [PD] GEM + Logitech Quickcam = no textures
by Ian Smith-Heisters 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Yep. That did the trick. The image was very garbled and it ate up ~30% of my processor cycles, but it worked. I'm still going to try kernel compilation and pcwx, but I don't think that will fix it. I think the output below is slightly different than it was w/out p2s/s2p. What does "wanted format is 0x1908" mean? wanted format is 0x1908 setting cmcapture to 160x120 5 now trying standard palette 15 frame 0 0, format 15, width 160, height 120 GEM: pix_video: Opened video connection C vmmap 825A274 VIDIOCSYNC: Invalid argument Maybe since ales fixed his by switching to Debian, I could switch to Gentoo and get it to magically work ;) Thanks, Ian > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [PD] GEM + Logitech Quickcam = no textures > From: zmoelnig(a)iem.at > Date: Wed, April 28, 2004 12:14 am > To: "Ian Smith-Heisters" <heisters(a)0x09.com> > Cc: "Johannes Taelman" <j0(a)advalvas.be>, "IOhannes m zmoelnig" > <zmoelnig(a)iem.at>, pd-list(a)iem.at > > Zitiere Ian Smith-Heisters <heisters(a)0x09.com>: > > > I moved the pix_pix2sig~ and pix_sig2pix~ upstream and it replaced > the > > white (untextured) cube with total > > blackness. > > use a higher blocksize: 160*120=19200 which means that you have should > try > something like [block~ 32768 8] in your patch. > also, make sure, you have connected the outlets of [pix_pix2sig~] to > the inlets > of [pix_sig2pix~] (the second outlet of p2s~ (the one after the > gemList-outlet) > to the first inlet of s2p~ (*the* gemList-inlet) and so forth) > > then (save and) turn on rendering and the audio-engine. > > i fear it will work then (although it's probably not really usable) and > i don't > know why... > > mfg.ads.r > IOhannes

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cvs supercollider
by Michael Iber 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Hello, where has the k_sc~ -subdirectory in cvs gone? Regards, Michael

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RE: [PD] GEM + Logitech Quickcam = no textures
by Ian Smith-Heisters 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

I moved the pix_pix2sig~ and pix_sig2pix~ upstream and it replaced the white (untextured) cube with total blackness. Um. So now, as per these suggestions, I'm going to try to install the pwcx which is not installed on my system. However, as far as I can tell, this requires recompiling the modules. Since I'm running a stock kernel, this will in turn require compiling the kernel, which I need to do anyway to enable the realtime patch. Thanks for the help, I'll get back to y'all when I've seen if the compilation helps. -Ian > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [PD] GEM + Logitech Quickcam = no textures > From: "Johannes Taelman" <j0(a)advalvas.be> > Date: Tue, April 27, 2004 10:46 am > To: "Ian Smith-Heisters" <heisters(a)0x09.com> > Cc: "IOhannes m zmoelnig" <zmoelnig(a)iem.at>, pd-list(a)iem.at > > Ian Smith-Heisters wrote: > > pix_info output for each frame: > > > > width: 160 > > height: 120 > > bytes/px: 4 > > color-space: 6408 > > Hmmm these are small frames. Did you load the binary (closed-source) > pwcx driver? The real video decompression is only handled in pwcx. > > j#|@ > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list

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