Pd-list March 2004

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netsend over internet
by Roman Haefeli 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

hi i'm not too fit in network-stuff. i'd like to send numbers between 2 computers over the internet. Both computer are client in a LAN, but not behind a firewall. I just want to know if it's possible or not. If not I could stop looking for how to realize it. thanks Roman

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External for Tactex?
by Mikael Fernström 16 Mar '04

16 Mar '04

I'm working on a new interaction style, using PD and various touch devices. Does anybody know of a pd-external for the Tactex tablet? (or do I have to write it...) /Mikael

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-mididev flag bug
by robcanning 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

hi, under linux the -mididev flag doesn't seem to work -mididev 1 gives: couldn't open MIDI input device -1 couldn't open MIDI output device -1 opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s). i know it will work via the MIDI settings in the Media menu of the PD gui but i have made a -nogui box+midi controller system and this is getting in my way. anyone know of a fix for this? maybe i can send a message to the gui for example? i have seen this problem on the list before - i don't think it is a hardware issue but anyway i'm using the hdsp multiface on: Pd version 0.37.1 devel compiled 10:22:06 Feb 20 2004 Planetccrma - FEDORA CORE 1 thanks, rob -- www.robcanning.utvinternet.com

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symbol feed headache
by timon botez 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

Hi, Im finding myself having a hard time trying to make a patch and thought I ask fore some suggestions: Im loading a text file into the text object, and I want the content to be spit out to a symbol object letter by letter eg. a an ano anot anoth anothe another Anyone familiar with an object that does that? Timon.

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Re: [PD] Still with the GEM!
by thewade 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

The Angel IOhannes hat gesagt: > does the developpers version match ? (guess it is glibc-devel) > could there be any issues with TLS ? > what is the version of your compiler ? I just ran up2date, as apt was throwing weird errors. I havent been using planet-ccrma\'s builds of thinkgs because he only has FC1 and I am using FC1.9, and Im not sure of the differences between the two. Still no worky-worky though... glibc-2.3.3-16 glibc-devel-2.3.3-16 gcc-3.3.3-2.1 > unfortunately i have forgotten how (this is: what was the compiler: \"gcc\" or > just \"cc\" ?) you managed to compile the little-example script i sent to you. package cc is not installed so it must have been gcc. > and have you already tried to build the configure-script yourself ? (with > \"autoconf\" I tried that at first sign of problem, but I got a lot of underquoted deffinitions... autoconf-2.59-3 automake-1.8.3-1 I have included the output of aclocal and automake below. Thanks again for your help. This wil be the first time that I would have Gem and pdp built, on my laptop which now almost runs fast enough with 2.6.3 to be usefull in performances! Thanks, -thewade [wade@transport Gnu]$ aclocal acinclude.m4:10: warning: underquoted definition of AC_FIND_LIB run info \'(automake)Extending aclocal\' or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending%20aclocal acinclude.m4:86: warning: underquoted definition of AC_FIND_HEADER /usr/share/aclocal/xmms.m4:17: warning: underquoted definition of XMMS_TEST_VERSION /usr/share/aclocal/xmms.m4:62: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_XMMS /usr/share/aclocal/xml-i18n-tools.m4:24: warning: underquoted definition of XML_I18N_TOOLS_NEWER_THAN_0_9 /usr/share/aclocal/xml-i18n-tools.m4:28: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PROG_XML_I18N_TOOLS /usr/share/aclocal/xml-i18n-tools.m4:30: warning: underquoted definition of X18T_PFORG1 /usr/share/aclocal/xml-i18n-tools.m4:32: warning: underquoted definition of X18T_XML_KIND /usr/share/aclocal/xml-i18n-tools.m4:34: warning: underquoted definition of X18T_KEYS_KIND /usr/share/aclocal/xml-i18n-tools.m4:135: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PROG_XML_I18N_TOOLS /usr/share/aclocal/wxwin.m4:36: warning: underquoted definition of AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG /usr/share/aclocal/wxwin.m4:59: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_WXCONFIG /usr/share/aclocal/vorbis.m4:9: warning: underquoted definition of XIPH_PATH_VORBIS /usr/share/aclocal/pkg.m4:5: warning: underquoted definition of PKG_CHECK_MODULES /usr/share/aclocal/pilot-link.m4:1: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PILOT_LINK_HOOK /usr/share/aclocal/ogg.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of XIPH_PATH_OGG /usr/share/aclocal/oaf.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_OAF /usr/share/aclocal/linc.m4:1: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LINC /usr/share/aclocal/libole2.m4:18: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBOLE2 /usr/share/aclocal/libmikmod.m4:11: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBMIKMOD /usr/share/aclocal/libguppi.m4:11: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBGUPPI /usr/share/aclocal/libglade.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBGLADE /usr/share/aclocal/libart.m4:11: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBART /usr/share/aclocal/libIDL.m4:6: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBIDL /usr/share/aclocal/intltool.m4:27: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PROG_INTLTOOL /usr/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:9: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_IMLIB /usr/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:167: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB /usr/share/aclocal/gtk.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTK /usr/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GLIB /usr/share/aclocal/gdk-pixbuf.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_PIXBUF /usr/share/aclocal/gconf-2.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2 /usr/share/aclocal/gconf-1.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GCONF /usr/share/aclocal/gconf-1.m4:71: warning: underquoted definition of AM_GCONF_SOURCE /usr/share/aclocal/audiofile.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_AUDIOFILE /usr/share/aclocal/ORBit.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_ORBIT acinclude.m4:24: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion autoconf/libs.m4:134: AC_CHECK_LIB is expanded from... acinclude.m4:24: the top level autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1 [wade@transport Gnu]$ automake aclocal.m4:36: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion autoconf/libs.m4:134: AC_CHECK_LIB is expanded from... aclocal.m4:36: the top level autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 automake: autoconf failed with exit status: 1

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Re: [PD] Still with the GEM!
by thewade 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

The latest edition of poor thewade\'s configure problems with cvs gem begins with our hero perched above a large precipious stairong downward into the depths of linker and compiler errors, and the frightening world of packages upon packages... To re-present, my problem is that gem wont configure because the configure script gets errors (or maybe warnings?) with the GL libraries. Apparently the GL libraries are having some issue with libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS) where in function `__libc_csu_init\': there is an undefined reference to `__init_array_start\' This guy has my wierd problem when he tries to compile emacs: http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-03/msg00119.html And this guy seems to think this is a linker error, or that the x86 version of elf needs to be included in linking... http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2003-03/msg00123.html What should our hero do? Thanks for your help, I promise Ill stop spaming the list with my problem unless I find an answer on my own, at which case Ill tell you Heres my glibc: [wade@transport Gnu]$ rpm -q glibc glibc-2.3.3-14 Thanks for your mercy, -thewithoutaclue

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Re: [PD] Live motion tracking using pd / gem
by Max Neupert 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

am 13.03.2004 20:53 Uhr schrieb chris clepper unter cgc(a)humboldtblvd.com: >> Even better than comparing the sequencing frames to each other would >> be for >> my purpose to let the camera grab a frame of the empty stage to later >> compare those to the ones with spectators. Somebody out there who has >> done >> that? > > Yes, pix_background will take a snapshot frame and compare incoming > frames to it. It only draws the pixels that are different. There's a > help patch included with CVS. This object (pix_background) seems to work quite well from what is displayed, but the pix_blob creates weired data so that the pix_movement is still better in the result. Why is that? (see attachment) max

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rendezvous/zeroconf and pd
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

I am planning on adding rendezvous functionality to Pd and I am wondering what the best approach is. (Rendezvous is the impromptu networking system best known for what Apple is doing with it on iChat, iTunes, etc. It is an outgrowth of "Zero Configuration" aka Zeroconf. It is basically a way of advertising services that your machine offers on a local network automatically.) I was originally thinking that it would probably make sense to just make a separate object for this. But it might make sense to incorporate it into [netserver] and [netreceive] since they are the objects that are actually providing service (in the form of opening the actual port) which Rendezvous would be advertising . Thoughts, comments? .hc

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The Big Apple this week
by Ian Smith-Heisters 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

Hey y'all. I'm going to be in NYC this coming week (Saturday the 13th - Friday the 19th night) and was wondering if there's anything pd-related going on. Thanks! -Ian

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VBAP NO crash in OSX 10.2.8 Jaguar
by zack 15 Mar '04

15 Mar '04

After some testing, it seems that the crash in question does not occur when running under OSX 10.2.8 Jaguar. Hmmmm.,.... -Z > From what I can tell from my stack dump below, vbap seems to be > crashing > > Has anyone else had this problem (running pd.37-1 / OSX 10.3.2) ? > > Any more sources more recent than mine (source for pd dated nov. 26 > 2002) ? > > ??? > > -zack > > > > > > > > > #0 0x048a5d74 in additive_vbap () > #1 0x048a64c4 in spread_it () > #2 0x048a669c in vbap_bang () > #3 0x00033348 in outlet_bang (x=0xae00004) at m_obj.c:323 > #4 0x00052910 in trigger_list (x=0x4d34540, s=0x3e800000, argc=1, > argv=0xbffff8f0) at x_connective.c:986 > #5 0x00052acc in trigger_float (x=0x7f8000, f=1.00000036) at > x_connective.c:1030 > #6 0x00033440 in outlet_float (x=0xae00004, f=-3715.15601) at > m_obj.c:355 > #7 0x00033440 in outlet_float (x=0xae00004, f=-3715.15601) at > m_obj.c:355 > #8 0x00033440 in outlet_float (x=0xae00004, f=-3715.15601) at > m_obj.c:355 > #9 0x00033440 in outlet_float (x=0xae00004, f=-3715.15601) at > m_obj.c:355 > #10 0x00033348 in outlet_bang (x=0xae00004) at m_obj.c:323 > #11 0x00057a24 in metro_tick (x=0x4d353c0) at x_time.c:87 > #12 0x00038704 in sched_tick (next_sys_time=-3715.156005859375) at > m_sched.c:357 > #13 0x000389c8 in m_scheduler () at m_sched.c:448 > #14 0x000021cc in _start (argc=-1073743632, argv=0x4d36aa0, > envp=0x1388) at /SourceCache/Csu/Csu-47/crt.c:267 > #15 0x8fe1a700 in __dyld__dyld_start () >

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