Pd-list February 2004

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modeling problem: stack overflow
by Anton Woldhek 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Hello list, Im currently working on a composition based on a proces. Ive got a problem that i cant seem to find my way around. This particular model is a bird that has several parameters determining whether or not it his going to be atracted to our particular location. (Somewhereland). To do this it first determines its charachter (is it a seasonal migrator i.e.). etc. Another one is the food/competitor ratio. I need the bird to see that if A) The food/competitor ratio = 0 (meaning: no new birds can be fed from this supply) B) he checks whether or not he is currently present so that if a * b = 1 He can stay, and if a * b = 0 he will not go to Somewhereland. but because the output would be immediatly fed back to B it creates a stack overflow. I thought i could get around this by have a metro send out the occasional update of his current presence. Any hints would be much appreciated. Thanks Anton

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debian gem package
by Malte Steiner 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Hello, I heard there is a precompiled gem package for debian but the one I found seems not to install correct. What is the official download url or is doing the compile on your own to prefer? Thanks in advance, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- Elektronengehirn: new piece on compilation Pero La Musica Continuara, available soon at block4.com Das Kombinat: released the new musicvideo on art CDr magazine tinah #1 http://www.thisisnotahomepage.com

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lists and writing own externals
by thewade 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Hello again, Could somebody send me some simple code for an external that does the following: Takes in a list Can be set with default values in the object box Also, are there any rules as to how much space an external occupies (in bytes)? Thanks again, -thewade

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RE: [PD] list2symbol???zexy
by Adrian deCleir 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

ok I have that working, but unfortunately there is still no 'list2symbol' object included, I dont suppose anyone can send me the c file?? would that work cheers guys -----Original Message----- From: matthew jones [mailto:m.jones@signal.qinetiq.com] Sent: 19 February 2004 15:31 To: Adrian deCleir Subject: Re: [PD] list2symbol???zexy you don't need z_install.bat AFAIK in win32 the process for installing external libraries like zexy is standard, and involves moving the dll to a directory in the path, and running pd with 'pd -lib zexy' if you're not on windoze, apologies -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.loopit.org/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian deCleir" <0031259(a)student.ul.ie> To: "'Josh Steiner'" <josh(a)vitriolix.com> Cc: <PD-list(a)iem.at> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: RE: [PD] list2symbol???zexy > ya I was lookin at that and there was no "z_install.bat" Ill try find > another one cheers anyway > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh Steiner [mailto:josh@vitriolix.com] > Sent: 18 February 2004 19:17 > To: Adrian deCleir > Cc: 'PD-list(a)iem.at' > Subject: Re: [PD] list2symbol???zexy > > > did you follow the instructions in zexy's readme? > > the zexy external > > > general:: > the zexy external is a collection of externals for miller.s.puckette's > realtime-computermusic-environment called "puredata" (or abbreviated "pd") > this zexy external will be of no use, if you don't have a running > version of pd on your system. > check out for http://iem.kug.ac.at/pd to learn more about pd and how to > get it > > note: the zexy external is published under the Gnu General Public > License that is included (GnuGPL.txt). some parts of the code are taken > directly from the pd source-code, they, of course, fall under the > license pd is published under. > > > installation:: > linux : > change to directory source > adapt the makefile to match your system (where is pd installed ?) > "make clean" > "make" > "make install" > this will install the zexy external into <mypdpath>/pd/externs > alternatively you can try "make everything" > > win32 : > extract the zexy-0_x.zip to your pd-path (this file should be located at > <mypdpath>/pd/zexy/) > execute the "z_install.bat", this should copy all necessary files to the > correct places > if you want to compile it for yourself, i don't take any warranties for > the makefile.nt; use the workspace zexy.dsw instead > > irix : > though i have physical access to both SGI's O2s and indys, i haven't > tried to compile the zexy externals there for years. > Good luck ! > > > making pd run with the zexy external:: > make sure, that pd will be looking at this location (add "-path > <mypath>/pd/externs" either to your .pdrc or each time you execute pd) > make sure, that you somehow load the zexy external (either add "-lib > zexy" (if you advised pd somehow to look at the correct place) or "-lib > <myzexypath>/zexy" to your startup-script (.pdrc or whatever) or load it > via the object "zexy" at runtime > > > authors:: > this software is copyleft by iohannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > with some contributions by winfried ritsch, guenter geiger, > miller.s.puckette and maybe some others > > > > Adrian deCleir wrote: > > >well first of all theres no c file for it, but to be honest I cant seem to > >get ones that are there working, I downloaded the zexy zip file, extracted > >it, even tried the "-lib zexy" flag, but it still doesnt seem to > acknowledge > >the fact that makesymbol, etc exists > >please help I hate being a newbe : ( > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Josh Steiner [mailto:josh@vitriolix.com] > >Sent: 18 February 2004 18:45 > >To: Adrian deCleir > >Cc: 'PD-list(a)iem.at' > >Subject: Re: [PD] list2symbol???zexy > > > > > >what makes you think its not in the one you downloaded? did you load > >the whole zexy lib with a "-lib zexy" flag? > > > >-josh > > > >Adrian deCleir wrote: > > > > > > > >>ok Ive downloaded the zexy library from 2 different sites, and both dont > >>have the list2symbol object in it, I'm positive it is a part of teh zexy > >>library,I've been searching everywhere for a means of getting that object > >>but I cant find it, was very surprised myself, dont suppose someone could > >>send on just that object? > >>ps I appreciate all the help ppl give here coz I feel like Im always > asking > >>obvious sounding questions > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>PD-list mailing list > >>PD-list(a)iem.at > >>http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ________________________________________________________________ > live experimental electronic music -- http://bluevitriol.com > independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >

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3d matrix in zexy?
by Cyrille Henry 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

hello, I'm looking for a cross-platform way to deal with 3d matrix in pd. just like the matrix object of zexy, but in 3d. any idea? thanks Cyrille

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about my chatpatch was: [PD] sending text
by Anton Woldhek 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Hi Frank & the list, > > Ive actually made a PD/GrIPD chat client when i was bored at work a couple > > months ago, > I'd *love* to see this. I just got back to school, went and looked for it, unfortunatly, i couldnt find it anymore. Just some very early prototypes that only did the link between GriPD & PD. Basically what it did was the following: the textbox object in GriPD is excellent, cause you can use that as the part of the chat client that you type your message on. You then put into your pd path an [r keystroke] folowed by [unpack 0 0] and then [select 13] have that bang to a message {send} which connects to [s rtextbox0] This outputs the textbox0 contents. You can then just ahve a [r stextbox0] at the receiving end, and put that in a [s rtext0] so that GriPD displays that in a separate box. (also connect this to [print send:] so that you can review your previous messages. Now if you have more then one user, make some radio buttons in GriPD, connect these radio buttons in your pd patch to some ip's and yer done. ofcourse you have to setup netreceive. Anton ps Ill ask some former co-workers if they still use/have the patch.

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OSX joystick
by timon botez 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Hi, I know there is a Linux joystick and I read there was some work to port this to OSX. I wonder if this has had any progress lately? This is of great interest. I currently use sliders to control GEM. MUCH headache! Thanks, Timon.

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paradiddle
by roc 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

hi ppl ive been tryin out Paradiddle and found some problems, i suspect related to its installation on my machine. When trying to check the example apps & patches, i keep getting error messages in Project Builder ld: can't locate framework for: -framework Paradiddle i assume the framework should be in my machine after running the installer, but,,, So it doesnt build. And, anyways, if i try to launch the example apps, nothing pops up. help? i'm on 10.2 and pd 0.36 thanks r -------------------- %evol--------http://www.mego.at/evol.html %alku--------http://personal.ilimit.es/principio %imbécil----http://imbecil.net

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(newbie) multi-dimensional arrays
by yasmin ahmad 20 Feb '04

20 Feb '04

Hi, I'vejust started using PD and I would like to know whether there is a way to create multi-dimensional arrays within PD. If not should I be turning to flext or something else? Any info would be greatly appreciated, Yasmin. -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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RE: [PD] list2symbol???zexy
by Adrian deCleir 19 Feb '04

19 Feb '04

yep its defo loading alright, and I do see that, makesymbol works perfect too, its just when I write list2symbol in an object box, nothing happens, it doesnt recognise it as an object, I just get "list2symbol ...couldnt create" -----Original Message----- From: Josh Steiner [mailto:josh@vitriolix.com] Sent: 19 February 2004 17:17 To: Adrian deCleir Cc: 'matthew jones'; 'PD-list(a)iem.at' Subject: Re: [PD] list2symbol???zexy ther is no list2symbol.c file, the object is definted in a couple of other c files (a search in the src directory tells me z_makesymbol.c z_strings.c zexy.c). but l2s really should be built into the .dll... are you sure zexy is loading? do you see this in your pd console: ???????????????????????????? ?...the zexy external1.1...? ? forum::f^(n)r::uml?ute 2001 ? ? send me a 'help' message ? ???????????????????????????? -josh Adrian deCleir wrote: >ok I have that working, but unfortunately there is still no 'list2symbol' >object included, I dont suppose anyone can send me the c file?? would that >work >cheers guys > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: matthew jones [mailto:m.jones@signal.qinetiq.com] >Sent: 19 February 2004 15:31 >To: Adrian deCleir >Subject: Re: [PD] list2symbol???zexy > > >you don't need z_install.bat > >AFAIK in win32 the process for installing external libraries like zexy is >standard, and involves moving the dll to a directory in the path, and >running pd with 'pd -lib zexy' >if you're not on windoze, apologies > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >http://www.loopit.org/ >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Adrian deCleir" <0031259(a)student.ul.ie> >To: "'Josh Steiner'" <josh(a)vitriolix.com> >Cc: <PD-list(a)iem.at> >Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:19 PM >Subject: RE: [PD] list2symbol???zexy > > > > >>ya I was lookin at that and there was no "z_install.bat" Ill try find >>another one cheers anyway >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Josh Steiner [mailto:josh@vitriolix.com] >>Sent: 18 February 2004 19:17 >>To: Adrian deCleir >>Cc: 'PD-list(a)iem.at' >>Subject: Re: [PD] list2symbol???zexy >> >> >>did you follow the instructions in zexy's readme? >> >>the zexy external >> >> >>general:: >>the zexy external is a collection of externals for miller.s.puckette's >>realtime-computermusic-environment called "puredata" (or abbreviated "pd") >>this zexy external will be of no use, if you don't have a running >>version of pd on your system. >>check out for http://iem.kug.ac.at/pd to learn more about pd and how to >>get it >> >>note: the zexy external is published under the Gnu General Public >>License that is included (GnuGPL.txt). some parts of the code are taken >>directly from the pd source-code, they, of course, fall under the >>license pd is published under. >> >> >>installation:: >>linux : >>change to directory source >>adapt the makefile to match your system (where is pd installed ?) >>"make clean" >>"make" >>"make install" >>this will install the zexy external into <mypdpath>/pd/externs >>alternatively you can try "make everything" >> >>win32 : >>extract the zexy-0_x.zip to your pd-path (this file should be located at >><mypdpath>/pd/zexy/) >>execute the "z_install.bat", this should copy all necessary files to the >>correct places >>if you want to compile it for yourself, i don't take any warranties for >>the makefile.nt; use the workspace zexy.dsw instead >> >>irix : >>though i have physical access to both SGI's O2s and indys, i haven't >>tried to compile the zexy externals there for years. >>Good luck ! >> >> >>making pd run with the zexy external:: >>make sure, that pd will be looking at this location (add "-path >><mypath>/pd/externs" either to your .pdrc or each time you execute pd) >>make sure, that you somehow load the zexy external (either add "-lib >>zexy" (if you advised pd somehow to look at the correct place) or "-lib >><myzexypath>/zexy" to your startup-script (.pdrc or whatever) or load it >>via the object "zexy" at runtime >> >> >>authors:: >>this software is copyleft by iohannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.kug.ac.at> >>with some contributions by winfried ritsch, guenter geiger, >>miller.s.puckette and maybe some others >> >> >> >>Adrian deCleir wrote: >> >> >> >>>well first of all theres no c file for it, but to be honest I cant seem >>> >>> >to > > >>>get ones that are there working, I downloaded the zexy zip file, >>> >>> >extracted > > >>>it, even tried the "-lib zexy" flag, but it still doesnt seem to >>> >>> >>acknowledge >> >> >>>the fact that makesymbol, etc exists >>>please help I hate being a newbe : ( >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Josh Steiner [mailto:josh@vitriolix.com] >>>Sent: 18 February 2004 18:45 >>>To: Adrian deCleir >>>Cc: 'PD-list(a)iem.at' >>>Subject: Re: [PD] list2symbol???zexy >>> >>> >>>what makes you think its not in the one you downloaded? did you load >>>the whole zexy lib with a "-lib zexy" flag? >>> >>>-josh >>> >>>Adrian deCleir wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>ok Ive downloaded the zexy library from 2 different sites, and both dont >>>>have the list2symbol object in it, I'm positive it is a part of teh zexy >>>>library,I've been searching everywhere for a means of getting that >>>> >>>> >object > > >>>>but I cant find it, was very surprised myself, dont suppose someone >>>> >>>> >could > > >>>>send on just that object? >>>>ps I appreciate all the help ppl give here coz I feel like Im always >>>> >>>> >>asking >> >> >>>>obvious sounding questions >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>PD-list mailing list >>>>PD-list(a)iem.at >>>>http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>________________________________________________________________ >>live experimental electronic music -- http://bluevitriol.com >>independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>PD-list mailing list >>PD-list(a)iem.at >>http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >PD-list mailing list >PD-list(a)iem.at >http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > -- ________________________________________________________________ live experimental electronic music -- http://bluevitriol.com independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com

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