Pd-list December 2004

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problem with MIDI Multi-Control patch
by abel.jerome＠free.fr 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

I think you have to use [trigger f f f f f] : >>>> http://impala.utopia.free.fr/pd/patchs/multic02.pd I don't understand the ctlVar output . + jerome http://impala-utopia.org

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Musical Algorhytmic
by Alexandre Quessy 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

Hello musicians of the world ! This is a call for you to share your ideas of how to create the logic behind melodies and chords with Pure Data. I discovered quite a few interesting tricks reading the documentation, but I am still just a newbie. (as I need to read more!) Now I wonder what is used in real world real time generated - or composed - music. This is kind of a survey, just for fun and curiosity. I like to read what composers and developers think and do. How do you organize, write, store and make interactive: Forms in musics? (A-B-A-C-A-B-A, variations on a theme and A-B-A, for instance) Musical dynamic phrases (arsis-thesis, "phrasé") Envelope (I saw the ADSR in the doc tough), rhytmic patterns, rhytmic modulations Modulations, scales, modes (Do you store only a Ionien and a ascendant melodic minor and derive all the other from them ?) Chords, alterations and theirs extensions (ordered by favorites to the worst) ((From I to vii)) :: Cmaj7, (Db7b5), Dm7, Em7b9, (E7b9), Fmaj7#11, G7(#4), (Abm6(maj7)), Am7, Bdim7, (etc...) Licks to play on chords progressions (ii - V - I's, etc.) How to order different comportement (arrays, text files, graphs, ...) Color for musical notes. ([fiddle~] and [% 12] or [% 7] on midi numbers) Microtonal and different musical temperaments (i.e. floats in midi) Do you prefer using graphs, arrays, text files, or whatever to store info that one can browse using [drunk], interactivity or a weighted random to build a tune ? Also: Do you often put hundreds of [osc~] and [noise~] together to create interesting tones, or do you prefer altering a [phasor~] with a [hip~] ? I would like to do CPU-expansive sound generation using [osc~] formants in polyphonic music but I am afraid it is gonna be too slow. (on a 900 MHz Mac OS X, possibly a Linux box soon) What is the importance of samples and audio realtime inputs compared to generated sounds and midi in Pd and Max/MSP ? (in general) Thanks for sharing ! And thanks for your patience to read my so-much wide questions... alexandre quessy

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problem with MIDI Multi-Control patch
by Ryan Supak 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

Here's the patch: http://www.vato9.org/pd/multic.pd Basically, you feed it ctlVal, which is a MIDI CC value, and ctlNum, which is a MIDI CC controller number. If the ctlNum is 74, send controllers 74, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104 along with ctlVal. (It's using one knob to turn six knobs). However, if I send it controller 74, something isn't coming out right. I expect this: 74-ctlVal; 100-ctlVal; 101-ctlVal; 102-ctlVal; 103-ctlVal; 104-ctlVal Instead, I get this: 74-ctlVal; 100-ctlVal; 101-ctlVal; 103-ctlVal; 104-ctlVal; 104-ctlVal <--The last numbers are messed up I'm sure it's something silly, any pointers would be appreciated! rs

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control data from input
by thomas.gorbach 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

Hi, I want to get control data from input to control a sequencer. With adc~ i can get signals from a microfon. How can i measure the volume of the inputstream. If the volume goes over a certain value a controlstatement starts the sequencer. any suggestions ? g TOM

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dynamic table length and envelope change
by pun chik 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

hi list, i need your help . im trying to make a patch where i can change dynamically the length of a table and its content. For example if i have an envelope inside the table, i want that the envelope can adapts-fits to the table when i change its lenght . im stuck with this.... the patch has different behaivors depending of if i change the numbers fast or slow... CAn anybody help me with this??? punchik #N canvas 0 0 1011 695 10; #X obj 677 218 s p1-pitch; #X msg 677 186 resize \$1; #X msg 606 119 505; #X obj 324 426 line~; #X floatatom 178 122 0 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 175 519 cos~; #X obj 324 402 pack 0 50; #X floatatom 326 331 0 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 175 438 -~ 0.5; #X obj 175 467 *~; #X obj 326 355 / 10; #X obj 175 494 clip~ -0.5 0.5; #X obj 324 451 +~ 1; #X obj 326 379 max 0; #X msg 279 118 0; #X obj 175 570 +~ 0.5; #X obj 175 416 phasor~ 181; #X obj 326 271 loadbang; #X msg 326 307 4; #X obj 175 546 *~ 0.5; #X msg 155 77 bang; #X obj 155 595 tabwrite~ p1-pitch; #X msg 117 33 88; #X obj 599 86 loadbang; #X floatatom 671 139 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 511 392 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 511 416 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 608 363 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 778 473 + 1; #X obj 649 407 float; #X floatatom 649 485 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 693 390 0; #X obj 179 209 float; #X floatatom 204 251 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 178 151 t float float; #X obj 393 194 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X floatatom 175 362 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 257 72 0; #X obj 188 303 - 1; #X obj 103 -14 loadbang; #X obj 614 515 / 9; #X text 735 134 move up slowly \, then fast; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 graph20 0; #X array p1-pitch 505 float 1; #A 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0; #X coords 0 1 504 0 200 140 1; #X restore 732 489 graph; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 24 0; #X connect 3 0 12 0; #X connect 4 0 20 0; #X connect 4 0 34 0; #X connect 5 0 19 0; #X connect 6 0 3 0; #X connect 7 0 10 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 11 0; #X connect 10 0 13 0; #X connect 11 0 5 0; #X connect 12 0 9 1; #X connect 13 0 6 0; #X connect 14 0 16 1; #X connect 15 0 21 0; #X connect 16 0 8 0; #X connect 17 0 18 0; #X connect 18 0 7 0; #X connect 19 0 15 0; #X connect 20 0 14 0; #X connect 20 0 21 0; #X connect 22 0 4 0; #X connect 22 0 20 0; #X connect 23 0 2 0; #X connect 24 0 1 0; #X connect 24 0 27 0; #X connect 25 0 26 0; #X connect 25 0 27 0; #X connect 27 0 29 0; #X connect 28 0 29 1; #X connect 29 0 30 0; #X connect 29 0 28 0; #X connect 30 0 35 0; #X connect 30 0 40 0; #X connect 31 0 29 1; #X connect 32 0 33 0; #X connect 32 0 38 0; #X connect 34 0 32 0; #X connect 34 1 32 1; #X connect 35 0 32 0; #X connect 36 0 16 0; #X connect 36 0 20 0; #X connect 37 0 32 1; #X connect 38 0 36 0; #X connect 39 0 22 0; #X connect 40 0 38 1; -- pun chik punchik(a)fastmail.fm

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[OT] any electro stuff going?
by Tom Dunstan 29 Dec '04

29 Dec '04

hi crew. i'm in amsterdam for the next week or so, does anyone know of anything happening round here. i'm also sticking my nose on berlin for a bit aswell so any links wound be noice. thanks tom -- Tom Dunstan tdunstan(a)fastmail.fm

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compiling flext external
by Yvan Vander Sanden 29 Dec '04

29 Dec '04

Hi, I was trying to compile an example from the flext tutorial. I have worked with flext before using linux, but this is the first time i try to program in windows (using borland C++ builder 6.0). I've created a dll and want to load it as an external. This gives me the the error: load object: symbol "lib1_setup" not found I've googled a bit and read that i have to export the setup function if i use windows, so i've changed: static void lib_setup() { to extern "C" __declspec(dllexport) void lib_setup() { but now i get these messages: [Linker Error] Unresolved external '_post' referenced from C:\PD\TUTORIAL1\LIB.OBJ This is strange, because i know the path's to the library files are correct. Obviously my problem comes forth from having no programming experience for windows, but a little help would be nice here... Thanks, yvan vander sanden -- (\(\ (x.x) (")") This is the decapitated bunny virus. Please behead it in your sig, so it can spread.

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erase connection
by nicob 29 Dec '04

29 Dec '04

sorry it was just a disconnect message to send all appologies .....

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erase connection
by nicob 29 Dec '04

29 Dec '04

hi all iwishgoodyeartoeveryone i've test the following patch, i've bang the -connect 0 0 2 0- message and it create the connection between [metro] and bang in the new canvas does anyone know the message to send to delete this connection? thank you very much nicolas #N canvas 0 22 454 304 10; #X msg 77 224 msg 10 10 bang; #X msg 77 272 obj 10 40 metro 500; #X msg 77 248 floatatom 100 10 7 50 5000; #X msg 77 344 obj 10 70 random 127; #X msg 77 392 floatatom 10 100 5; #X msg 78 440 text 10 130 That's it !; #X obj 30 475 s pd-new; #X msg 77 296 connect 0 0 2 0; #X msg 77 319 connect 1 0 2 1; #X msg 77 368 connect 2 0 3 0; #X msg 77 416 connect 3 0 4 0; #X msg 40 79 \; pd filename new ./ \; #N canvas \; #X pop 1 \;; #X text 53 59 click here first; #X text 28 176 And then we fill it with the way describe in 1.add_objects.pd ; #X text 26 15 This describe how to create a new abstraction :; #X msg 290 457 menuclose; #X text 294 483 this will kill it !; #X msg 207 299 connectclose; #X connect 0 0 6 0; #X connect 1 0 6 0; #X connect 2 0 6 0; #X connect 3 0 6 0; #X connect 4 0 6 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 7 0 6 0; #X connect 8 0 6 0; #X connect 9 0 6 0; #X connect 10 0 6 0; #X connect 15 0 6 0; #X connect 17 0 6 0;

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Re: gentoo realtime-lsm for pd+jack realtime?
by chun lee 28 Dec '04

28 Dec '04

Hi there: Finally got round to install realtime-lsm on my newly install gentoo (kernel-2.6.9) I got realtime-lsm form emerge and then added "realtime" to /etc/moudles.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. Upon reboot, realtime starts ok but when I try to start jack with realtime using qjackctl as normal user. I got a error saying Cannot load driver module alsa Could not connect to JACK server as client Does this mean that I need to have the alsa support compiled as modules for the kernel like realtime-lsm instead of compile into kernel? Many thanks CHUN

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