Pd-list December 2004

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Re: [PD-dev] Re: prepend w/ set message - ignore
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 08 Jan '05

08 Jan '05

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >>> Whatever prepend I'm using now (?) does support the "set" message. > > FYI: the build system uses the [prepend] from cyclone. just because i am interested and i don't want to think right now. how do you prepend something to a "set" message with [cyclone/prepend]? e.g. i want to construct [foo set bar( out of [foo( and [set bar( fla.mni.g IOhannes

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PD WIKKI defaced
by derek holzer 06 Jan '05

06 Jan '05

Looks like the pd.iem.at WIKKI pages got hacked alongside every other WIKKI on earth over the last week [including the one set up on electric-boogaloo.goto10.org/pdzilla for me and Aymeric's recent UK workshop series]. Are there backups of the pages which are older than the ones available on the web interface? Anyone going to update the PHP/WIKKI versions to keep this from continuing into infinity? Defacing WIKKIs is like knocking over little old ladies in the street. I just can't imagine how anyone could have fun doing it... d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 36: "Consult other sources -promising -unpromising"

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controlling stuff with tables
by pun chik 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

hi list, im controlling some amplitudes using signals, from tables. i create the signals multiplicating osc~ and phasor~. i want to know is there is a way to make that the last number in my table can be the first one in the table , otherwise it produces clicks. seconds question is , how can i make that my first number and the last one in the table always be cero? it would nice if there is a way of doing this automatically. so i can create complex signals dynamically without worry about clicks thanx punchik -- pun chik punchik(a)fastmail.fm

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iemlib for mac os X
by oren ishii 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

i have not installed the library but i use mac os X 10.3 and i can#t find the iemlib for this system on your website... can you help.. another question how can i install the iemlib? mfg margit blauhut > oren ishii wrote: > > hello > > i used the mp3play~ patch from the mp3 iemlib. when i open the patch and > > i want to load a mp3 file it doesn't work and i get this message on my > > console. can anyone help me? it is really urgent! > > thx > > > > > > > > mp3play~ > > ... couldn't create > > mp3play~ > > ... couldn't create > > speedlim 50 > > ... couldn't create > > > do you really have the iemlib installed ? > make sure you load the libraries prior to creating objects they provide: > either create an object [iem_mp3] _before_ you create [mp3play~]s; or > use "-lib iem_mp3" as startup-flag. > > (and you need to load iemlib2 to get [speedlim]) > > > mfg.a.dr > IOhannes > -- Psssst! Mit GMX Handyrechnung senken: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail 100 FreeSMS/Monat (GMX TopMail), 50 (GMX ProMail), 10 (GMX FreeMail) -- +++ Sparen Sie mit GMX DSL +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl AKTION für Wechsler: DSL-Tarife ab 3,99 EUR/Monat + Startguthaben

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Rradical [originator] with no [prepend] solution....
by chun lee 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

Hi there: While reinstalling my system, I have encountered this problem with [originator] in the memento of rradical abstractions. Because there is a [prepend RRADICAL.dummy] in the originator.pd and although I have a [prepend] but its not the right [prepend] wanted by the [originator]. As far as I know, there are at least 2 [prepend] our there. I did a quick work around using [pack],[symbol] and [route], which seems to work so far and it eliminates the [prepend] dependency. Please see the attached patch. Could anyone take a look and see if this is a better way then having [prepend]. I am particularly not too sure about the [route list] I did at the end, I think there is a better way. #N canvas 260 166 978 591 10; #X text 425 22 responsibilities:; #X text 98 10 ORIGINATOR (the mixing engineer); #X text 447 59 * set memento (restore settings from photo); #X text 448 40 * create memento (take photo); #N canvas 76 23 720 450 createMemento 0; #X obj 48 84 inlet; #X obj 97 117 symbol \$1; #X obj 97 90 loadbang; #X obj 97 150 s \$0-memento; #X text 75 49 \$1 is the default name of the memento \, that this originator creates \, but it can be changed later.; #X obj 74 179 outlet; #X text 292 108 What is a memento?; #X text 275 121 a memento is a directory in a global (data)pool; #X obj 305 139 r \$0-memento; #X msg 309 180 state \$1; #X obj 319 213 s \$0-pool; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X restore 122 321 pd createMemento; #X obj 122 104 inlet; #N canvas 600 185 664 406 setMemento 0; #X text 238 12 setMemento is responsible for restoring all registered variables.; #X obj 64 26 inlet; #X obj 109 286 outlet; #X obj 109 249 r \$0-restore; #X msg 64 126 getall; #X obj 64 183 s \$0-pool; #N canvas 468 415 450 300 change2substate 0; #X obj 92 39 inlet; #X obj 113 198 outlet; #X obj 185 93 r \$0-memento; #X obj 280 93 r \$0-substate; #X obj 113 144 pack s s 0; #X obj 92 93 symbol chdir; #X obj 92 67 t b; #X obj 113 167 route list; #X text 218 163 un-list again; #X connect 0 0 6 0; #X connect 2 0 4 1; #X connect 3 0 4 2; #X connect 4 0 7 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 6 0 5 0; #X connect 7 0 1 0; #X restore 131 127 pd change2substate; #X text 186 104 change to dir memento substate; #X obj 64 52 t b b b; #X obj 130 75 s \$0-set-ON; #X connect 1 0 8 0; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 6 0 5 0; #X connect 8 0 4 0; #X connect 8 1 6 0; #X connect 8 2 9 0; #X restore 256 446 pd setMemento; #X text 431 90 What is a memento?; #X text 463 111 a memento is a directory in a global (data)pool; #X text 432 135 What is a state?; #X obj 563 328 r \$0-pool; #X symbolatom 691 374 10 0 0 3 memento - -; #X msg 170 103 create help; #X msg 261 103 set memento; #X obj 777 348 inlet; #X obj 178 297 s \$0-substate; #X obj 828 482 r \$0-substate; #X msg 828 511 substate \$1; #X msg 99 471 copy; #X msg 210 472 paste; #X obj 134 514 s \$0-pool; #X obj 309 341 symbol; #X obj 156 440 t b b; #X msg 620 389 set \$1; #X obj 563 460 s \$2-in; #X obj 197 418 r \$0-set; #X obj 148 472 s \$0-set; #X obj 828 540 s \$0-pool; #X obj 225 274 s \$0-pool; #X text 462 154 a state is the content of a memento subdirectory named by a number.; #X text 819 348 OSC inlet; #X obj 777 377 OSCroute \$1; #X text 462 154 a state is the content of a memento subdirectory named by a number.; #X obj 535 273 r \$2-RRADICAL-MEMENTO; #X text 443 248 \$2-RRADICAL-MEMENTO is sent by commun objects; #X obj 777 413 s \$2-RRADICAL-OSC; #X obj 385 520 outlet; #X obj 235 196 prepend get; #N canvas 468 415 450 300 ch2subs 0; #X obj 92 39 inlet; #X obj 113 198 outlet; #X obj 185 93 r \$0-memento; #X obj 280 93 r \$0-substate; #X obj 113 144 pack s s 0; #X obj 92 67 t b; #X obj 113 167 route list; #X text 218 163 un-list again; #X obj 92 94 symbol chdir; #X connect 0 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 4 1; #X connect 3 0 4 2; #X connect 4 0 6 0; #X connect 5 0 8 0; #X connect 6 0 1 0; #X connect 8 0 4 0; #X restore 255 252 pd ch2subs; #X obj 225 230 t a b; #X obj 563 382 spigot; #X obj 448 520 spigot; #N canvas 548 386 450 300 tgl 0; #X obj 155 198 outlet; #X obj 240 198 outlet; #X msg 151 120 0; #X msg 184 120 1; #X msg 233 120 0; #X msg 266 120 1; #X obj 295 55 r \$0-set-ON; #X obj 292 85 loadbang; #X obj 185 65 r \$0-get-ON; #X text 20 7 This tgl is to prevent some loops when using get and set. ; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 0 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 1 0; #X connect 6 0 2 0; #X connect 6 0 5 0; #X connect 7 0 5 0; #X connect 7 0 2 0; #X connect 8 0 3 0; #X connect 8 0 4 0; #X restore 486 348 pd tgl; #X obj 235 177 t a b; #X obj 287 175 s \$0-get-ON; #X msg 505 463 set \$1; #X obj 448 493 prepend RRADICAL.dummy; #X obj 385 493 spigot; #X obj 448 544 outlet; #X text 353 541 Value outlet; #X text 494 545 Value/Key outlet; #X obj 370 228 s \$0-substate; #X obj 340 203 t b f; #X obj 563 351 rradical.state \$1; #X obj 22 197 route ldxdir svxdir; #X msg 23 285 ldxdir \$1; #X msg 102 289 svxdir \$1; #X obj 23 316 s \$0-pool; #X obj 646 494 outlet; #X text 641 515 OSC outlet; #X obj 637 461 OSCprepend \$1; #X msg 720 487 setsub \$1; #X obj 720 547 s \$0-setsub; #X obj 173 77 r \$0-setsub; #X obj 161 378 select copy paste set; #X obj 122 132 route create substate get setsub; #X obj 340 251 s \$0-set; #X obj 25 261 symbol; #X obj 101 267 symbol; #X obj 12 220 t b a; #X msg 12 360 set; #X text 12 382 after loadx \, set; #X obj 12 77 r SET_ALL_RRADICALS; #X text 14 47 global send to do something crazy with!; #X obj 818 245 r \$0-substate; #X text 795 218 \$2 == \$0 parent; #X msg 818 270 set \$1; #X obj 818 298 s \$2-parentstate; #X obj 535 300 prepend set; #X obj 764 437 OSCroute /preset /substate; #X msg 745 513 /preset \$1; #X obj 583 527 print; #X symbolatom 385 410 10 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 385 389 t b f; #X obj 385 433 pack s f; #X obj 385 455 route list; #X connect 5 0 65 0; #X connect 10 0 53 0; #X connect 11 0 60 1; #X connect 12 0 65 0; #X connect 13 0 65 0; #X connect 14 0 31 0; #X connect 16 0 17 0; #X connect 16 0 80 0; #X connect 17 0 27 0; #X connect 18 0 20 0; #X connect 19 0 20 0; #X connect 21 0 64 0; #X connect 22 0 26 0; #X connect 22 1 19 0; #X connect 23 0 82 0; #X connect 25 0 6 0; #X connect 31 0 35 0; #X connect 31 0 79 0; #X connect 33 0 60 0; #X connect 33 0 78 0; #X connect 37 0 39 0; #X connect 38 0 28 0; #X connect 39 0 28 0; #X connect 39 1 38 0; #X connect 40 0 83 0; #X connect 41 0 48 0; #X connect 42 0 41 1; #X connect 42 0 47 1; #X connect 42 1 40 1; #X connect 43 0 37 0; #X connect 43 1 44 0; #X connect 45 0 46 0; #X connect 46 0 41 0; #X connect 47 0 36 0; #X connect 52 0 66 0; #X connect 52 1 51 0; #X connect 53 0 40 0; #X connect 53 0 46 0; #X connect 53 0 47 0; #X connect 53 1 23 0; #X connect 53 1 45 0; #X connect 53 2 11 0; #X connect 54 0 69 0; #X connect 54 1 68 0; #X connect 55 0 57 0; #X connect 56 0 57 0; #X connect 60 0 58 0; #X connect 61 0 62 0; #X connect 63 0 65 0; #X connect 64 0 18 0; #X connect 64 1 22 0; #X connect 64 2 6 0; #X connect 65 0 4 0; #X connect 65 1 15 0; #X connect 65 2 43 0; #X connect 65 3 52 0; #X connect 65 4 21 0; #X connect 65 4 54 0; #X connect 67 0 55 0; #X connect 68 0 56 0; #X connect 69 0 70 0; #X connect 69 1 67 0; #X connect 70 0 21 0; #X connect 72 0 65 0; #X connect 74 0 76 0; #X connect 76 0 77 0; #X connect 78 0 53 0; #X connect 79 0 61 0; #X connect 79 1 61 0; #X connect 80 0 60 0; #X connect 82 0 84 0; #X connect 83 0 82 0; #X connect 83 1 84 1; #X connect 84 0 85 0; #X connect 85 0 24 0;

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adding new objects while audio is on
by John Nowak 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

One thing which drives me nuts about Max/MSP is that adding signal processing objects or adding/deleting connections while audio is playing results in clicks and nastiness as the DSP chain sorts itself out all over again. Someone mentioned in passing on the max list that PD does not have this problem. I have always assumed that PD had the same issue, but perhaps this is not so. A quick bit of googling didn't turn up much (as indeed it would be a weird thing to come out and say a problem you do NOT have...). If PD were to allow me to create patches which could repatch themselves and spawn new objects during audio playback, I'd be quite excited. Is such a thing possible? I assume the answer is no, but it never hurts to ask... - JN

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RE :[PD] adding new objects while audio is on
by abel.jerome＠free.fr 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

after some tests, I think in Pd, the first "clicks maker" is certainly the graphical system. But I think too it depends of your computer performance. with this patch : http://impala.utopia.free.fr/pd/patchs/test_limitations_pd.pd after 10 [osc~] added, it makes clicks when I move > 10 [osc~] after 60 [osc~] added, it makes clicks when I delete/create > 10 [osc~] after 252 [osc~] added, it makes sometimes clicks when I delete/create just one [osc~] Certainly audio connections are fragiles, and connect/disconnect audio objects is a origin of clicks too. jerome http://impala-utopia.org

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m-audio duo device
by philippe 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

Hi everybody ! I'm new suscriber to this list ,i'm actually expecting some help for having the m-audio duo usb working with pure data on linux... the card is working fine with the alsa drivers, in duplex too, But when i use it with pure-data and alsa drivers ,the sound dosn't follow ,and is very fuzzy at 44100Hz and at 48000 Hz ,the internal pd-time drops dramatic (the osc~ 440 sounds 3 or 4 times lower) even if the sound seems to be fluent. I think this can be corrected with a samplerate convertion in .asoundrc ,but i didn't find any help from the old maling lists. So if anyone have a working m-audio duo ,make me a sign ! thanks. philippe

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Re: [PD] m-audio duo device
by rodrigo.derteano＠hgkz.net 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

Hi philippe, IŽm not an expert in the isue, but as long as I know, the alsa port of pd is not good. I suggest you try jack with realtime capabilities (and preempt in the kernel). cheers rodrigo Hi everybody ! I'm new suscriber to this list ,i'm actually expecting some help for having the m-audio duo usb working with pure data on linux... the card is working fine with the alsa drivers, in duplex too, But when i use it with pure-data and alsa drivers ,the sound dosn't follow ,and is very fuzzy at 44100Hz and at 48000 Hz ,the internal pd-time drops dramatic (the osc~ 440 sounds 3 or 4 times lower) even if the sound seems to be fluent. I think this can be corrected with a samplerate convertion in .asoundrc ,but i didn't find any help from the old maling lists. So if anyone have a working m-audio duo ,make me a sign ! thanks. philippe _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list

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Mondbass Live Set - Best wishes for 2005
by Frank Barknecht 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

Best wishes to everybody celebrating a new year from "Mondbass", my new deep house dance project. For your pleasure a 20 minutes live set: Mondbass: The Love Mix (ogg, 15mb) http://footils.org/snd/2005-final.ogg Keep up your heart in 2005! -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__

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