Pd-list November 2004

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problems to write in an array
by oren ishii 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

in 80% it is not possible for me to write in a defined array. sometimes it is working and sometimes not (and i don't know why, i have tried almost everything (different values, different sizes,..) i found out, that it worked when i didn't change the size of the array and it was the original size (the predefined value in the appearing option window) of 100. but when i changed the size in the appearing option window to ex. 15 the array didn't take my values. who can help me? it is really urgent!!! -- NEU +++ DSL Komplett von GMX +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl GMX DSL-Netzanschluss + Tarif zum supergünstigen Komplett-Preis!

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Re: [PD] Use Linux and you will be sued
by Stefan Turner 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Thanks to whoever posted the two links a while back. >From ffio.org I found http://petition.eurolinux.org/ where you can add your name to an anti-patent petition in a few seconds. Do it!! (if you're European) Stefan Turner > From: =?windows-1252?Q?Marc_Lavall=E9e?= > <marc(a)hacklava.net> > To: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > Subject: Re: [PD] Use Linux and you will be sued > > slimboyfatboyslim a =E9crit : > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/18/ballmer_linux_lawsuits/ > > I know it's a bit off-topic, but here's a little > follow-up. > Excerpts from > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1730114,00.asp > (as seen on /.) ___________________________________________________________ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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activate patch window at startup?
by Palle Dahlstedt 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Hi, I'm running an installation that has to startup a pd patch on unattended boot (in Windows2000), and then accept keyboard inputs (via [key]). However, the console window gets the focus by default. I've found some previous answers to this question, but they don't work. I've tried sending "vis 1" messages with loadbang, and that opens up windows, but does not give them primary focus in Windows. It seems like when the console has the focus (as on startup), focus can never be transferred to patch windows by "vis 1" messages. Only when a patch window has focus (e.g., after clicking in it), the "pd-mypatch vis 1" message makes subpatches appear _and_ get focus. I've tried this in both 0.37 and 0.38. No difference, it seems. Any hints or workarounds? Thanks, Palle Dahlstedt

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Re: Read 256 values from a netserver connection and holding them in a table
by Stefan Turner 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Probably easier and more efficient (since I guess this method with 256 iterations would be quite slow) is to send a message '<startindex> <table[startindex]> <table[startindex+1]>...' to the table. See 16.more.arrays.pd. If you don't know the table name and/or size in advance, you can use the [prepend] with two inlets (I've lost track of which one that is :) ) You'll need the [tabwrite] method if you need more flexibilty (sorry if that's the case and I misunderstood). Stefan Turner >if i understand you right, you want to store 256 >values from java into >an array. it is possible to 'netsend' or 'netreceive' >a list of 256 >elements, but you cannot 'tabwrite' lists.[tabwrite] >has two inlets, >the >right for the 'index', the left for the value. so i >thinks it's better >to send your 256 values as a sequence of 256 >float-msgs. to store them >into the array, a counter is needed, which tells the >array on what >position (index) we are. >this is the way i would solve it, but it is surely not >the only one. > >roman ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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[Fwd: FADAIAT((i)): deaf /makrolab]
by Yves Degoyon 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

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Re: [PD] GEM and video synthesis
by wolfgang schwarzenbrunner 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

At 05:38 22.11.2004, Paris Treantafeles wrote: >hello all, > >i'm very new to pd and gem. >i've gone through a gem tutorial and get the idea of some of what can be >done with respect to manipulating images, movie clips, and 3d. >what i'm wondering is about is using gem to create patches closer to >analog video synthesis. if you`re thinking of emulating analog video synthesizers you maybe should rather have a look at the possibilities of pdp and pidip than gem (as its more like a 3d environment while pdp is more like the 2d video stuff). the problem (well somehow maybe only for me) is that pdp is only available for linux (and about one year ago it always took me about a month to get a real good working debian/pd/gem/pdp/gemtopdp/ pdptogem working environment... maybe its easier nowadays... all i can say is that if you have time its for shure worth the effort) >a friend and i work on this type of equipment, analog signal generators, >pulse generators, etc. and create video images on tv screens. >i'm curious to find a software solution and wondering if gem is the way to go. > >if anyone has some experience with this, i would appreciate any links to >info or patches. > >thanks, >paris regards wolfgang >_______________________________________________ >PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list

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Does PDP support the Eye Toy cam?
by Frank Barknecht 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Hallo, I consider to get an Playstation 2 Eye Toy cam to use with PDP as well. Reading http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/status.html I find that is is supported in Linux, but that it needs "an application that supports JPEG" compression: Replacement for the OV511 and OV518. JPEG compression, up to 800x600, 24Khz audio, 8051 microcontroller. Used in Sony EyeToy. Supported by experimental ov51x driver (you need an application that supports JPEG). Supposedly there is a 100-pin version of this, in addition to the more common 64-pin version. I have no idea what this requirement means for pdp: Does pdp "support JPEG? Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__

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pool xml file editor
by Tim Blechmann 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

hi all ... although i love emacs, it's not the best tool to edit pool's xml files ... does anyone know of a tool, that can be used to edit these kind of xml files? cheers ... tim -- mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say "I want to see the manager." William S. Burroughs

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can't find an indexable and selectable item?
by chunlee 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

hi there: while experimenting with the Pd internal message, i got this error message: can't find an indexable and selectable item ".x9396760.t939d7f8" my idea was that to have a window (say a sub-patch called [pd test]) that does nothing else but hosts things that are dynamically created/deleted. as a result, the [s pd-test] is not inside of the [pd test]. please see the attached patch as example. many thanks #N canvas 390 316 542 277 10; #N canvas 386 0 518 131 test 0; #N canvas 0 0 391 262 clone 0; #X text 23 23 cloned content; #X text 284 233 cloned content; #X restore 3 4 pd clone; #X restore 20 241 pd test; #X msg 46 159 vis 0; #X obj 20 185 s pd-test; #X msg 20 121 vis 1 \, editmode 1 \, mouse 5 5 0 0 \, mouseup 10 10 0 0 \, duplicate; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 3 0 2 0;

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Re: [PD] Read 256 values from a netserver connection and holding them in a table
by IOhannes m zmoelnig 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

luisalamas(a)sapo.pt wrote: > Thank for your support ... thanks for the ascii-mail. but please reply not only to me but to the whole list. other people might be interested as well. > I will send in attachment the patch (FinalServer.pd) i see. i am still not sure what you want to achieve in the first place: i can think of 2 possibilities: a) each time you get a value from [netserver] you write this value to the table and increment the index by one ("asynchronous"); after the table is full you re-start at the beginning i guess this is not what you want b) a counter increments the index according to a reference clock. whenever a value comes in from [netserver] it is inserted at the "correct" place in the table ("synchronous"); i guess this is more what you want. your patch does following: a new value comes in you start a clocked index-counter ([metro]) that counts *quite fast* (but *not* immediatly) from 0. "in the meanwhile" you send the "value" to the first inlet of the [tabwrite]; as the index (2nd inlet) happens to be 0, you write this value into the first element of the array. the counter continues to increment the index each dsp-tick (the "grain" of pd's message system) until it reaches 256 and then stops. if nothing comes in in this time (1.3ms*256) the result would be: the value is stored in the first element of the table; the rest of the table is untouched. if a value arives while the counter is still counting, this value will be inserted at the "current" index (which is a function of time but looks rather random) what is going wrong ? your index-counter does not behave well (i think, but of course i might be wrong) for scenario-a use something like | [t f b] _______ | | | | | [i] | | | | | [+ 1] | | | | | [% 256] | | |_______| | | [tabwrite bla] for scenario-b you should detach the clock of the counter entirely from your input values. and just as a tip, try to make the index the "master" that defines the time, when a new value is inserted. and why do you run metro at full speed ? [tgl] | [metro 10] | [i]/[+ 1]/[% 256] | | [netserver] | | [pack] | [$2 $1( | [tabwrite bla] oh, i tried to not give the full solution... mfg.a.sdr IOhannes original patch: #N canvas 344 21 944 851 12; #X symbolatom 221 252 10 0 0; #X floatatom 182 292 5 0 0; #X floatatom 153 328 5 0 0; #X text 266 271 IP do cliente; #X text 216 312 numero do sockect; #X text 183 346 numero de ligacoes; #X text 60 374 dados recebidos; #X obj 553 272 route float list; #X obj 620 338 print list; #X floatatom 548 368 5 0 0; #X obj 688 315 print anything; #X floatatom 654 228 5 0 0; #X msg 523 103 connect localhost 3000; #X msg 586 143 disconnect; #X floatatom 57 358 5 0 0; #X obj 584 193 netclient; #X msg 100 96 client 1 234 \;; #X msg 218 136 client 2 418 \;; #X msg 458 56 send 18 \;; #X msg 51 69 print \;; #X obj 82 209 netserver 3000; #X obj 10 424 print ola; #X obj 13 661 table vermelho 256; #X text -10 702 array de 256x1 de valores que se chama vermelho; #X obj 73 767 tabread vermelho; #X floatatom 25 818 5 0 0; #X msg 418 572 bang; #X obj 418 602 metro; #X msg 358 608 0; #X obj 418 637 float; #X obj 511 640 + 1; #X floatatom 511 678 5 0 0; #X obj 514 713 moses 257; #X msg 490 571 stop; #X obj 11 605 tabwrite vermelho; #X text 407 738 contador de 256 valores; #X obj 213 506 f; #X obj 252 507 mod 257; #X obj 330 508 + 1; #X obj 207 469 metro; #X floatatom 212 535 5 0 0; #X msg 196 436 stop; #X msg 114 426 bang; #X obj 240 573 moses 256; #X floatatom 42 733 5 0 0; #X obj -15 445 s mi; #X obj -17 482 r mi; #X obj 112 810 print vermelho; #X obj 2 520 t f; #X obj -4 552 unpack; #X connect 7 0 9 0; #X connect 7 1 8 0; #X connect 7 2 10 0; #X connect 12 0 15 0; #X connect 13 0 15 0; #X connect 14 0 21 0; #X connect 14 0 42 0; #X connect 14 0 45 0; #X connect 15 0 7 0; #X connect 15 1 11 0; #X connect 16 0 20 0; #X connect 17 0 20 0; #X connect 18 0 15 0; #X connect 19 0 20 0; #X connect 20 0 14 0; #X connect 20 1 2 0; #X connect 20 2 1 0; #X connect 20 3 0 0; #X connect 24 0 25 0; #X connect 24 0 47 0; #X connect 26 0 27 0; #X connect 26 0 28 0; #X connect 27 0 29 0; #X connect 28 0 29 1; #X connect 29 0 30 0; #X connect 30 0 29 1; #X connect 30 0 31 0; #X connect 31 0 32 0; #X connect 32 0 44 0; #X connect 32 1 33 0; #X connect 33 0 27 0; #X connect 36 0 38 0; #X connect 36 0 34 1; #X connect 36 0 40 0; #X connect 37 0 36 1; #X connect 38 0 37 0; #X connect 39 0 36 0; #X connect 40 0 43 0; #X connect 41 0 39 0; #X connect 42 0 39 0; #X connect 43 1 41 0; #X connect 44 0 24 0; #X connect 46 0 48 0; #X connect 48 0 49 0; #X connect 49 0 34 0;

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