Pd-list November 2004

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Re: [PD-announce] devel_0_38 win32 binaries
by Michael Iber 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

At 12:51 24.11.2004, you wrote: >hi all ... > >to make it easier to debug the native asio implementation, i uploaded >precompiled binaries to my website ... Hammerfall 9652 (1st generation) 5.8 ms Creamware ScopeFusion (2nd generation) 8.7ms Tascam US428: it was not even possible to get a clear testtone .... according to latency.pd-patch Regards, Michael

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UK Pure Data Workshops in November & December
by derek holzer 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

PD.ZILLA --- PURE DATA STOMPS THE UK! Workshops and Demos on Free + Open Source Software for artists by Aymeric Mansoux and Derek Holzer. While many tools exist for sound, multimedia and VJ purposes, few of them are designed with an open architecture which allows artists to configure the tools they use themselves. Fewer still are free to use, share and rebuild. This workshop introduces the software combination of Pure Data, GEM and PDP/PiDiP, running on the Linux operating system, as a platform for audio, video and multimedia artists to explore. Full workshop program [actual program varies with venue]: http://electric-boogaloo.goto10.org/pdzilla/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Coming to an arts venue near you: Tuesday Nov 30: Glasgow ----------------------- "FOSS [Free + Open Source Software] tools for artists" Presentation by Derek Holzer 19.00, CCA, 350 Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow http://www.yourmachines.org/dh_talk.html http://www.cca-glasgow.com Registration/Contact: 0141 352 4900 Thursday Dec 02 to Saturday Dec 04: Glasgow ------------------------------------------- Pure Data/Free + Open Source Software Workshop "Your Machines" @ Centre for Contemporary Arts - Glasgow (CCA) CCA, 350 Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow http://www.yourmachines.org/pd_workshop.html http://www.cca-glasgow.com Registration/Contact: 0141 352 4900 Tuesday Dec 07 to Saturday Dec 11: Newcastle -------------------------------------------- Pure Data/Free + Open Source Software Workshop Waygood Gallery and Studios 2nd Floor, 39 High Bridge, Newcastle upon Tyne http://www.waygood.org/ Registration/Contact: pd(a)electronicartist.net Tuesday 14 Dec - Saturday 18 Dec: Brighton ------------------------------------------ Pure Data/Free + Open Source Software Workshop Lighthouse, 9-12 Middle Street, Brighton http://www.lighthouse.org.uk/ Registration/Contact: +44 (0)1273 384 222 / info(a)lighthouse.org.uk Wednesday Dec 15: Brighton -------------------------- Portfolio Presentation by Aymeric Mansoux & Derek Holzer 17.45-18.45, Fabrica & 19.00 Lighthouse Fabrica, 40 Duke Street, Brighton Lighthouse, 9-12 Middle Street, Brighton http://www.lighthouse.org.uk/ http://www.fabrica.org.uk/ http://tinyurl.com/5t6nn Contact: +44 (0)1273 384 222 / info(a)lighthouse.org.uk Monday 20 Dec - Tuesday 21 Dec: London -------------------------------------- Pure Data/Free + Open Source Software Workshop Mute Magazine Studio, The Whitechapel Centre, Myrdle Street, London Details forthcoming at: http://3d.openmute.org/ Registration/Contact: services(a)metamute.com Tuesday 21 Dec: London ---------------------- Pure Data Demo Party w/ Derek Holzer, Aymeric Mansoux and OpenLab Venue to be confirmed! Pls check the pdzilla or 3d.openmute.org website for details soon! http://3d.openmute.org/ http://www.pawfal.org/openlab Contact: services(a)metamute.com For more info on these workshops, please visit: http://electric-boogaloo.goto10.org/pdzilla/ -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 155: "The most important thing is the thing most easily forgotten"

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Re: [PD] about [serial] object -OSX PD
by slimboyfatboyslim 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

hi, Koray Tahiroglu wrote: > Hello, > thanks for the comport object, I put the comport.pd_darwin under the > extra folder where the other external objects are, then when I ran pd > it didn't see it as a functioning object. I am using Mac OSX did you > come across anything like the following error mesages? > > ** ERROR ** could not open device /dev/ttyS1: > failure(2): No such file or directory > > comport 1 9600 > ... couldn't create when I compile he object, I've set comport 0 for the keyspan, so try comport 0 > > > /dev/ttyS1 seems like a windows file structure, I have tried all the > ports but it doesn't see the keysapan-basicstamp. On the other hand I > have Max/msp Runtime in the same computer and it can communicate with > basicstamp. /dev/ttyS1 is linux serial port, I don't know if it's the same as Windows, so you mean you want to use the comport object in Max also? In Max, there's a serial object from Jeremy Bernstein but I never try it, ask Max list instead. > > It might be comport.pd_darwin not a proper compiled extra file. > do you have any idea, what is wrong? in you osx /dev, if you correct install the keyspan, there should /dev/key.US18..... (sth like that), comport 0 belongs to that port. > > cheers, > Koray > cheers, SFS > > > On Nov 23, 2004, at 16:48, slimboyfatboyslim wrote: > >> hi, >> >> I'm not sure which serial external you're talking but I've got the >> comport object for osx, here's the link >> >> http://www.slimboyfatboyslim.org/gl.html >> >> (scroll down to the bottom) >> >> Cheers, >> SFS >> > ----------------- > M.Koray Tahiroglu > DA student/researcher > Media Lab, > University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK > Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland > http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/ > tel: +358 40 754 8449 > fax: +358 9 75630 555 > >

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GEM in WinXP, Nvidia video error
by Jon B 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Trying Gem in windows; most of it works fine. The video patches don't work, giving the error: couldn't determine video-driver name error: GEM: pix_videoNT: Unable to connect to video driver This is under Win XP, Dell Inspiron 8600, Nvidia GeForce FX Go5200 I also get the error: error: GemGlutObj: compiled without GLUT-support - no rendering of GLUT-objects I don't see anything online. What do these mean? Jon

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Re: [PD-announce] new [hid] release + simple mapping objects
by patrick 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

a quick question hans, how are you doing? :) i want to thank you for hid, i've been waiting for this! my wacom tablet is working fine! pressure is there from 0 to 512. but when i pressed the middle button of my pen, nothing happen (not really important now), just want to let you know. question : will it be possible to support the p5 glove. i think there's a lot of people (well, 2 or 3 actually...) having the p5 glove but no external to use it in pd. have a good day hans! see ya, pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans-Christoph Steiner To: pd-announce(a)iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:40 PM Subject: [PD-announce] new [hid] release + simple mapping objects This version of [hid] fixes the crasher bug when you try to open a non-existant device. I am currently working on making a suite of objects for mapping controller data. I am making a number of objects like [mouse], [joystick], etc. which all output range (0 to 1 for axes). Then the mapping objects all take data of this range and output 0 to 1 so that the data can be easily mapped and scaled to parameters. Included are log, square root, and cube root; and exponent, square, and cube; as well as a basic smoothing object. The overarching idea for these objects is to make clearly defined, high-level objects for beginners and for rapid prototyping when using external controllers in Pd patches. At least point I am looking for ideas, comments, etc. about other possible mapping functions http://puredata.org/Members/hans/downloads .hc ____________________________________________________________________________ "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity." -John Gilmore

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Re: [PD] in-memory sample players?
by Stefan Turner 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

Hi Sven, For pitch-shifting, get the plugin~ external (dunno the address at the moment I'm afraid, let me know if you can't find it and I'll email it) which will let you use pitchScaleHQ from the LADSPA plugins collection at plugin.org.uk. For Windows I guess there's a free VST somewhere, and apparently plugin~ supports VST on Windows; I think there might also be a vst~ object. Don't know about the other thing, but I've never had any problems storing several minutes of audio in tables. If the samples are stored on disk already you could use tables to store the very first few milliseconds, covering the gap between sending 'open' and '1' to a readsf~ which then plays the rest of the file. Stefan Turner ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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OSX -pd0.38Test10 and percolate
by Ulrich Reuter 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

Hello this is my 1st post from me after lurking for some weeks, so again a friendly "hello": hello. I've tried this and that but i can't successfully get percolate for pd macos X to run with the "application" style pd0.38Test10 for Macos X. (The File I try to use is from http://www.akustische-kunst.org/puredata/percolate/ and is called "PeRColate0.09-osx.zip (279k) - version 0.09 of PeRColate for pd (binary for Mac OS X)") I admit I'm not really deep into installing and such. All I'm aware of is the location of the Extras folder... ;) But following the readme of the percolate download does not succeed. Could one of you be so kind to give me a short step-by-step howto? Thank you a lot, Ulrich -- Ulrich Reuter Filmmusikkomponist Föhrenweg 8 D-82223 Eichenau b. München Tel +49 - (0)8141 - 81 83 80 Fax 81 83 67 Mobil +49 - (0)170 - 269 66 58 www.uli-reuter.de

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problems compiling gem x86_64 again
by thewade 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

hello list, I was hoping Gunter Geiger and/or IOhannes Zmoelnig could help me with my gem configure script again? I have the CVS version of Gem and the 0.90.0 patch Gunter supplied me with of course wont patch. It gets as far as GL but wont find it despite GL existing as follows: ldconfig -p | grep GL libGLw.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGLw.so.1 libGLw.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLw.so.1 libGLU.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGLU.so.1 libGLU.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/libGLU.so.1 libGLU.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 libGLU.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 libGLU.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGLU.so libGLU.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/libGLU.so libGLU.so (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so libGLU.so (libc6) => /usr/lib/libGLU.so libGL.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGL.so.1 libGL.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/libGL.so.1 libGL.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 libGL.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 libGL.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/X11R6/lib64/libGL.so libGL.so (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib64/libGL.so libGL.so (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so libGL.so (libc6) => /usr/lib/libGL.so its the same problem I had before I think. Once again its fedora core 3 test 1 on a AMD 64 laptop. Thanks! -thewade PS. TCL/TK 8.4.8 has 64 bit optimizations. I wonder what they do? We\'ll see...

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Re: Re: [PD] Framestein and GEM
by " <tboulanger＠voila.fr> 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

Thanx for your reply... GEM seems to be an absolutely exciting plateform, as I tried messing around for several days. You told me about PDP and GridFlow. Shame is that I'm only working on Windows XP. So, sorry for PDP. But if I'm right I can run GridFlow under windows, no ? Arf... > Message du 23/11/04 à 10h41 > De : "Johannes M Zmoelnig" > A : tboulanger(a)voila.fr > Copie à : pd-list(a)iem.at > Objet : Re: [PD] Framestein and GEM > " wrote: > > Hi listers ! > > Hmmm, as everybody knows, PD is build for making really interesting audio stuff as video. > > So I had a look at GEM and Framestein and I have to say that I'm quiet lost : > > - Are GEM and Framestein utterly apart one from each other ? > yes > > > I mean is it possible to merge GEM objects with Framestein ones and conversely ? > no > > > - As for the rendering window : I noticed that GEM came with create/destroy objects and that Framestein came with its own rendering window : is it possible to have a unique window which displays both GEM and Framestein patches ? > no > > > - And in term of possibilities : eventually, which one of Framesteind and GEM is the most powerfull tool ? > this is a question i cannot answer. > > > Are they both specialised in a certain area ? > yes > Framestein is about image-processing (pixel-oriented, 2D) > Gem is about computer-graphics (vector-oriented, 3D, with some > possibilities to do pixel-processing) > > > > > These questions may appear to be stupid but I have to hear about your opinions... (the goal : creating a video clip to accompaign a track I've done recently, an interactive one to say...) > > well, all pd-packages that have something to do with graphics (3D, 2D, > video,...) can be used to create "a video clip to accompaign a track". > you could even do this in plain pd (remember franks tgb-patch), it is > basically a matter of aesthetics. > > as for power of Framestein and Gem: > Framestein is Windos-only; Gem is available on win, lin and osX (older > versions are available for irix too) > I have no idea how "big" Framestein is, but Gem is contains about 400 > objects (half of which are rather useless if you don't know how to > program openGL in a patcher language) > Framestein allows multiple "frames" (even embedded into a patch), Gem > has only one single window (which will change in the future...) > Framestein needs your CPU, Gem needs a hw-accelerated graphics card. > Framestein allows you to use Photoshop-plugins, Gem does not (but has > some (un)common fx built in) > > > > PS : about PDP, is it a customed-video oriented version of PD ? I think this one doesn't exist on XP) > > no, pdp is just another library to do graphics. > it is (basically) oriented on doing video-processing, and is highly > optimized. > if you have ever heard of "forth", go pdp. > if not, there is a library called pidip (which is an extension to pdp) > which has some high-level video-effects plus a lot of other cool stuff > (like streaming, ...) > > and best: pdp/pidip are available (only) on linux+osX > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > do not forget GridFlow. > > > Thanx for your support ! > > Gem, Framestein, pdp and GridFlow are really completely different > things, although all are dedicated to produce some "graphical" output. > > I think the biggest difference is not in possibilities but rather in the > "way of thinking". > so you should look at all of them carefully and then decide which fits > you and your need best. > > > mfg.a.sdr > IOhannes > > ------------------------------------------ Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr

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gem dual screen linux
by cyrille henry 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

hello, i'm having somes problem configuring my linux computer for gem. for diferents (and stranges) reasons, the only way I found to have DRI working on my dual screen (ati 9000) is to use 2 diferents drivers. in this mode, I have 2 diferents desktop, applications can't be moved from 1 desktop to the other. i'm triing to have my pd patch on 1 screen and the gemwindow on the other. offset messages on gemwin don't work. (the gem window is moved but does not go to the other screen) is it possible to have only the gemwin on the second display? thanks cyrille

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