Pd-list January 2004

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Re: PD-list digest, Vol 1 #919 - 12 msgs
by Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

"marius schebella": > > From: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans(a)eds.org> > > > I think that a > > lot of people who use Pd would be willing to give money to get the > > features that they want. > > > I don't think so. None of the average Pd-users is voluntary (??is this the > right word??) willing to pay a Cent. Yes, if someone really needs a feature > and is willing to pay for it, then he will give money for it, sure, but I > never heard that happened. People pay artists/composers for their work and > applications using Pd... but programmers don't see any of that money, only > if they are programmer and artist in one person. > > it is good that Pd is free and open source, in that way there is no > financial barrier to use it (only technical, ....) BUT: i still dont > understand, why software should be free at all??? i think the main reason > is, that it is still unusual to pay via internet or bank transfer, and that > there is no copy protection and people have no scruple about stealing > software. so solving those two problems: 1) finding an easy way of payment > and 2) making it unpossible to do illegal copies would give a totally new > view of the software/programmer/Pd/money problem. Its not about money. Its about making good software. To be able to make good software, its extremely nice to have access to other peoples sources so we can pick up tricks, develop further, fix bugs, etc. And by sharing our sources, we can get bugfixes and patches from other people working on our programs. Its also a matter of safeness. By having the source, I can much easelier (is that a word?) fix bugs the software might have (happens all the time) if I need to use that software. If you are not a developer, its might not be that easy to see the great advantage that open source gives, but for a programmer its kind of addictive. I don't want to touch non-open source programs. I simply don't trust such things. --

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(no subject)
by luigi rensinghoff 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

Hi ! There ! I wonder if someone has had a similar behavior ?? I am running Jack and PD as User with Planet CCRMA kernel on REDHAT 8. When i open the Test MIDI and Audio Patch and select the Properties of one of the Toggle Buttons PD Freezes. It happened as well with Properties of tabwrite and sthg else ? Any Idea what that could be ??? Maybe it has to do with Jack & PD and capbilities ??? Whats the latest bugfix-state on the CVS-Version ? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/

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writesf~ blockalign bug
by Emmanuel Rio 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

Dear list, I noticed a very little bug in writesf~ when trying to read in Windows Media Player sound files written with PD's writesf~. This problem occurs when writing WAV files with 2 or more channels. Such files are not recognized by Windows Media Player, whereas Adobe Audition (in my case) manages to read them. By saving the file read by Audition and comparing the original with the copy, I noticed that the BlockAlign value written by writesf~ in the WAV header is not correct. Whereas it should be : nBlockAlign = nChannels * (nBitsPerSample / 8) it remains nBitsPerSample/8, i.e. 2 in my case, and does not change according to the number of channels. My configuration (if helpful) : OS : Windows XP PD : pd-0.37-0.msw BTW, any link to a bug list for PD would be appreciated. Best regards, Emmanuel Rio

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Re: quattro, oss layer and 0.37-1 test3
by t.barrass＠pgrad.unimelb.edu.au 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

Just a note- changing to the latest alsa fixed the problems. Thanks Tim

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PD Freeze when opening Properties was: no subject ;-)
by luigi rensinghoff 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

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Re: [PD] Re: [PD-announce] k_guile v0.0.1
by Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

Larry Troxler: > > Kjetil, speaking of paths, it would be better IMO if you use the PD search > path to load your scheme files, instead of only looking in the current > directory. What I did in my pd_scheme external was to define a C callback in > scheme, which callled the PD path search routine. > Okey, I'll let it look in the current directory first and the check out the PD search path, and after that, perhaps the guile %load-path? > I think this bit is very much needed for practical use, unless people want to > copy all the scheme files they use into the directory that they run PD from. > I allways do it like that. Cd into a project directory where and have all my files, and start pd. > For example, your help file doesn't run as is, with your current approach. > No, you must cd into the k_guile directory. :) Oh well. > Understand, please, that this is a minor point overall, and I thank you for > providing this way cool tool for us PD users! > > Another minor point, it would be nice if PD timers (or maybe "clocks" is the > PD nomenclature, I don't remember) were supported as well. > Hmm, are you sure its not easier to use metro or something? It shouldn't be to hard to implement though. > But really, actually, either of the above two points I could tackle myself. > Just let me know (a) if you want me to, Yes, that would be very nice. If you have access to the pure data cvs, please commit. If not, just e-mail the patches to me. --

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Re: readanysf~ 0.11 crashes PD
by Norbert Math 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

i have readanysf~ running solid on debian testing with pd 0.36-0, oss. n > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:11:53 +0100 (CET) > From: august <august(a)alien.mur.at> > To: stotz <oliver(a)klingt.org> > cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] readanysf~ 0.11 crashes PD > > > > hi, august, list > > > > I'm still using pd 0.36 (probably a bad idea) on a debian system. > > > > although i succeeded in compiling readanysf~, it crashes PD anytime i create it. > > i use alsa-drivers and -rt flags. > > > > can anyone help me ? should i switch to 0.37 ? > > oliver, > > > where can I get a pd-36 ? > > I haven't touched readanysf in over 4-5 months. I just downloaded it > yesterday and compiled with a cvs flext and a cvs pd. all seemed to work > just fine.: > > does pd crash anyway with alsa ? mine does. I simply can't get alsa to > work with PD anymore. > > -august. >

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howto: starting PD in your patches directory (for windows users)
by Eric Skogen 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

hi kids running windows (i'm on xp) you can start pd from your patches directory. this way, when you click "open file", you will see your patches right there instead of having to navigate to them. 1. create a shortcut to your pd batch file containing startup options with an absolute path (ie: "c:\pd\bin\pd.exe") 2. in the properties for this shortcut make sure the "start in" directory is the path to your patches this streamlines my process a bit, so i thought others might find it useful as well. though it still would be nice to set default directories for openpanel and savepanel ... eric

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PD Jack error
by joseph moore 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

Dear List, I'm trying to get Jack working with PD on OSX but am receiving the following error every time I attempt to set jack as the built in audio input device via the PD audio settings window. What am I doing wrong? input channels = 2, output channels = 2 input device 1, channels 2 output device 2, channels 2 framesperbuf 64, nbufs 34 Could not create format converter: error = 0x666D743F = 'fmt?' PaOSX_OpenCommonDevice: PAOSX_DevicePropertyListener failed. : error = 0x666D743F = 'fmt?' Error number -10000 occured opening portaudio stream Error message: Host error. Thanks, Joe _________________________________________________________________ There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Learn more. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1

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lenght from zexy
by Michael Iber 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

Hi, length.c seems to have mystically disappeared from actual zexy ...... could anyone post it to me? thanks Michael

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Pd-list January 2004