Pd-list January 2004

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PDP or GEM linux DV CAM
by Paolo Rudelli 28 Jan '04

28 Jan '04

Hallo Some one know how to grab live DV cam input into PD-PDP or GEM ?? ( under linux ) under WIN32 i use pixel_video_ds and is working just fine i find a not very elgant way : on this page http://www.rmatsumoto.org/camera/dc1394-ohphone.html Grab dv input and do a raw stream to ffmpeg and use PDP_ffmpeg input whit PiDiP some one have another solution ????? tanks PS (and about output to DVcam ??? or (dv to analog) converter ???) ----------------------------------------------------- Paolo Rudelli - http://paolo.rudelli.lickthetoad.org

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PDP or GEM linux DV CAM
by Paolo Rudelli 28 Jan '04

28 Jan '04

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PDP or GEM linux DV CAM
by Paolo Rudelli 28 Jan '04

28 Jan '04

Hallo Some one know how to grab live DV cam input into PD-PDP or GEM ?? ( under linux ) under WIN32 i use pixel_video_ds and is working just fine tanks PS (and about output to DVcam ??? or dv to analog converter ???) ----------------------------------------------------- Paolo Rudelli - http://paolo.rudelli.lickthetoad.org

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Re: [PD] Can anyone tell me not to buy a Quattro or a UA-20?
by Chris Madak 28 Jan '04

28 Jan '04

thanks for your input. so far, i've heard nothing but good about the 828, so i suppose i'll be picking one up soon. i agree with you about latency and dropouts on osx, as i've had similar experiences. who knows, perhaps when i have time, i'll install knoppix plus agnula demudi on the ibook i use for live performance. it's on the to-do list anyway...unless anyone can recommend a better linux distro for audio performance. -chris On Tuesday, January 27, 2004, at 05:30 PM, Matthew Nish-Lapidus wrote: > Hi, > > I have the 828mn2 and I love it.. but PD for audio on OS X is not very > good.. you can't get latency under 15ms no matter what and there are > tons of dropouts for gui activity or loading files. I had better luck > with latency in Windows and Linux... but I -love- the 828mk2.. > > /* > Matt Nish-Lapidus > > www.ekran.org/mn-l > matt(a)ekran.org // mattn-l(a)rogers.com > > "What's this fish doing in my ear?" > */ > > On 27-Jan-04, at 1:14 PM, Chris Madak wrote: > >> Dan Wilken wrote: >> >>> I'm looking to buy a sound-card. According to past posts on the list, >>> both the Midiman Quattro and the Ediroyal UA-20 seem like good >>> options >>> with reliable Linux and OSX experiences. Has anyone had recent >>> experience to the contrary? Is there another 4 channel I'm >>> overlooking? >>> PD, Jack... >> >> For that matter, does anyone have any advice on the Motu 828mk2 with >> pd, under os x and/or linux? >> >> -Chris >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list mailing list >> PD-list(a)iem.at >> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >> >

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more osx/jack issues?
by Chris Madak 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

hello- perhaps this is somewhat of a redundant post by now, but trying to run pd 0.37test6 from miller's site with jack for osx.2.8, i'm running into the following: first, pd doesn't seem to recognize -jack (as in "./pd -rt -jack") at the command line. second, when i try to circumvent this by using "./pd -audioindev 3 -audiooutdev 3" (where "dev 3" is "jack audio server"), i get this: Could not create format converter: error = 0x666D743F = 'fmt?' PaOSX_OpenCommonDevice: PAOSX_DevicePropertyListener failed. : error = 0x666D743F = 'fmt?' Error number -10000 occured opening portaudio stream Error message: Host error. i realize that pd doesn't exactly work per se with jack under osx yet, but i thought i'd take a shot at it. any thoughts? -chris madak

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Problem with PD and ALSA on linux kernel 2.6
by Nuno ferreira 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Hi, Hopefully, this is just a newbie question for some of you... This is a Compaq Armada E500 with Maestro 2E running Debian Stable/Testing with linux kernel 2.6.0-test11 and ALSA enabled with OSS compatibility modules builded. Sound is working fine (ie, I can hear music coming out of XMMS :-)) but I have been unable to get PD running with adc enabled in this, wanted, configuration. A little info about PD, more is available if needed... $ pd -version Pd version 0.37.0 devel compiled 09:11:24 Dec 17 2003 $ pd -alsa -listdev -nogui input devices: 1. ESS ES1978 (Maestro 2E) (hardware) 2. ESS ES1978 (Maestro 2E) (plug-in) 3. VirMIDI (hardware) 4. VirMIDI (plug-in) output devices: 1. ESS ES1978 (Maestro 2E) (hardware) 2. ESS ES1978 (Maestro 2E) (plug-in) 3. VirMIDI (hardware) 4. VirMIDI (plug-in) API number 1 no midi input devices found no midi output devices found snd_pcm_hw_params_set_access (input): Invalid argument Sample width set to 2 bytes pd: pcm.c:1101: snd_pcm_readi: Assertion `pcm->access == SND_PCM_ACCESS_RW_INTERLEAVED' failed. Pd: signal 6 Aborted I did make sure that (chmod +rw) /dev/snd/* accesses were granted. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Nuno Ferreira

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Re: [PD] Can anyone tell me not to buy a Quattro or a UA-20?
by Chris Madak 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Dan Wilken wrote: > I'm looking to buy a sound-card. According to past posts on the list, > both the Midiman Quattro and the Ediroyal UA-20 seem like good options > with reliable Linux and OSX experiences. Has anyone had recent > experience to the contrary? Is there another 4 channel I'm overlooking? > PD, Jack... For that matter, does anyone have any advice on the Motu 828mk2 with pd, under os x and/or linux? -Chris

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Shortening Delays using PD with Windows XP
by Melissa Corso 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Hello everyone, I have been using PD with windows XP and RME card HDSP 9632. Even with a basic patch I am getting a significant delay in the signal ouput. I am using PD to filter speech and would like to use a band reject filter. However, even with a basic low pass filter I am still getting delays. I know others have had success in getting lesser values in the delay. If anyone could let me know how to do this it would be greatly appreciated. Melissa Corso ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005

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HELP with compiling PD for X11
by Sam Roig 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

Already a while ago I tried to compile PD for OS X using the X11 libraries instead of the Aqua version. Although some people on the list tried to help, I never managed to compile it properly. I am trying again now with similar results. Can someone have a look at my makefile and tell me what's wrong? I installed the Tcl/Tk libraries with fink and I also have the Aqua ones installed. Ideally, I would like to compile PD with x11 support (for x-forwarding) and also Jack and Portaudio support. To tell the truth, if the thing compiles with X11 and makes any sound at all, I'll be happy. The makefile follows. Thanks. -- ::: sam ::: VPATH = ../obj:./ OBJ_DIR = ../obj BIN_DIR = ../bin PDEXEC = $(BIN_DIR)/pd EXT= pd_darwin GUINAME= pd-gui INSTALL_PREFIX = /usr/local GFLAGS = -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\"$(INSTALL_PREFIX)\" MANDIR = ${prefix}/man MORECFLAGS = -DMACOSX -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../portaudio_v18/pa_common -I../portaudio_v18/pablio -I../portmidi_osx -Wno-error -DUSEAPI_PORTAUDIO -DPA_BIG_ENDIAN -DUSEAPI_JACK -DUSEAPI_JACK INCLUDE = -I. GINCLUDE = $(INCLUDE) -I/sw/include -I/usr/X11R6/include GLIB = -lX11 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/sw/lib -ltcl -ltk LDFLAGS = -Wl -L/sw/lib -ltclstub -ltkstub8.4 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -framework CoreAudio -framework AudioUnit -framework AudioToolbox -framework Carbon -framework CoreMIDI -framework Jack LIB = -ldl -lm -lpthread # remove -ldl if it fails! OPT_CFLAGS = -O2 WARN_CFLAGS = -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror \ -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch ARCH_CFLAGS = -DPD -DUNIX CFLAGS = $(ARCH_CFLAGS) $(WARN_CFLAGS) $(OPT_CFLAGS) $(MORECFLAGS) # the sources SYSSRC += s_midi_pm.c s_audio_pa.c ../portaudio_v18/pa_common/pa_lib.c ../portaudio_v18/pa_common/pa_trace.c ../portaudio_v18/pa_common/pa_convert.c ../portaudio_v18/pablio/pablio_pd.c ../portaudio_v18/pablio/ringbuffer_pd.c ../portaudio_v18/pa_mac_core/pa_mac_core.c ../portmidi_osx/pmdarwin.c ../portmidi_osx/pmmacosx.c ../portmidi_osx/pmutil.c ../portmidi_osx/portmidi.c ../portmidi_osx/ptdarwin.c s_audio_jack.c SRC = g_canvas.c g_graph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c g_io.c \ g_scalar.c g_traversal.c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c \ g_all_guis.c g_bang.c g_hdial.c g_hslider.c g_mycanvas.c g_numbox.c \ g_toggle.c g_vdial.c g_vslider.c g_vumeter.c \ m_pd.c m_class.c m_obj.c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c \ m_conf.c m_glob.c m_sched.c \ s_main.c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c \ s_loader.c s_path.c s_entry.c s_audio.c s_midi.c \ d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c d_osc.c d_filter.c d_dac.c d_misc.c \ d_math.c d_fft.c d_mayer_fft.c d_fftroutine.c d_array.c d_global.c \ d_delay.c d_resample.c \ x_arithmetic.c x_connective.c x_interface.c x_midi.c x_misc.c \ x_time.c x_acoustics.c x_net.c x_qlist.c x_gui.c d_soundfile.c \ $(SYSSRC) OBJ = $(SRC:.c=.o) EXTERNS = ../extra/*/*.$(EXT) GSRC = t_main.c t_tkcmd.c GOBJ = $(GSRC:.c=.o) # # ------------------ targets ------------------------------------ # .PHONY: pd gui externs all all: $(PDEXEC) $(BIN_DIR)/pd-watchdog $(BIN_DIR)/$(GUINAME) $(BIN_DIR)/pdsend \ $(BIN_DIR)/pdreceive $(BIN_DIR)/pd.tk externs bin: $(PDEXEC) $(BIN_DIR)/pd-watchdog $(BIN_DIR)/$(GUINAME) $(BIN_DIR)/pdsend \ $(BIN_DIR)/pdreceive $(BIN_DIR)/pd.tk $(OBJ) : %.o : %.c $(CC) $(CFLAGS) $(GFLAGS) $(INCLUDE) -c -o $(OBJ_DIR)/$*.o $*.c $(GOBJ) : %.o : %.c $(CC) $(CFLAGS) $(GFLAGS) $(GINCLUDE) -c -o $(OBJ_DIR)/$*.o $*.c pd: $(PDEXEC) gui: $(BIN_DIR)/$(GUINAME) pd-watchdog: $(BIN_DIR)/pd-watchdog $(BIN_DIR)/pd-watchdog: s_watchdog.c cc -O2 $(STRIPFLAG) -o $(BIN_DIR)/pd-watchdog s_watchdog.c $(BIN_DIR)/pdsend: u_pdsend.c cc $(CFLAGS) $(STRIPFLAG) -o $(BIN_DIR)/pdsend u_pdsend.c $(BIN_DIR)/pdreceive: u_pdreceive.c cc $(CFLAGS) $(STRIPFLAG) -o $(BIN_DIR)/pdreceive u_pdreceive.c $(PDEXEC): $(OBJ) cd ../obj; $(CC) $(LDFLAGS) $(DBG_CFLAGS) -o $(PDEXEC) $(OBJ) \ $(LIB) $(BIN_DIR)/pd-gui: $(GOBJ) $(GSRC) cd ../obj; $(CC) $(INCLUDE) -o $(BIN_DIR)/$(GUINAME) $(GOBJ) \ $(GLIB) $(BIN_DIR)/pd.tk: u_main.tk echo set pd_nt 2 > $(BIN_DIR)/pd.tk grep -v "set pd_nt" < u_main.tk >> $(BIN_DIR)/pd.tk #this is for Max OSX only... $(BIN_DIR)/pdtcl: $(GOBJ) $(GSRC) cd ../obj; libtool -dynamic -o $(BIN_DIR)/pdtcl $(GOBJ) \ /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/Current/Tk \ /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/Current/Tcl \ /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib externs: cd ../extra/bonk~;make pd_darwin cd ../extra/choice;make pd_darwin cd ../extra/expr~;make pd_darwin cd ../extra/fiddle~;make pd_darwin cd ../extra/loop~;make pd_darwin cd ../extra/lrshift~;make pd_darwin cd ../extra/pique;make pd_darwin INSTDIR = $(DESTDIR)/$(INSTALL_PREFIX) MANINSTDIR = $(DESTDIR)/$(MANDIR) install: all install -d $(INSTDIR)/lib/pd/bin install $(BIN_DIR)/$(GUINAME) $(INSTDIR)/lib/pd/bin/$(GUINAME) install $(BIN_DIR)/pd-watchdog $(INSTDIR)/lib/pd/bin/pd-watchdog install -m644 $(BIN_DIR)/pd.tk $(INSTDIR)/lib/pd/bin/pd.tk install -d $(INSTDIR)/bin install -m755 $(PDEXEC) $(INSTDIR)/bin/pd install -m 755 $(BIN_DIR)/pdsend $(INSTDIR)/bin/pdsend install -m 755 $(BIN_DIR)/pdreceive $(INSTDIR)/bin/pdreceive install -d $(INSTDIR)/lib/pd/extra install -d $(INSTDIR)/lib/pd/externs install -m 644 $(EXTERNS) $(INSTDIR)/lib/pd/extra cp -r ../doc $(INSTDIR)/lib/pd/ install -d $(INSTDIR)/include install -m644 m_pd.h $(INSTDIR)/include/m_pd.h install -d $(MANINSTDIR)/man1 gzip < ../man/pd.1 > $(MANINSTDIR)/man1/pd.1.gz chmod 644 $(MANINSTDIR)/man1/pd.1.gz gzip < ../man/pdsend.1 > $(MANINSTDIR)/man1/pdsend.1.gz chmod 644 $(MANINSTDIR)/man1/pdsend.1.gz gzip < ../man/pdreceive.1 > $(MANINSTDIR)/man1/pdreceive.1.gz chmod 644 $(MANINSTDIR)/man1/pdreceive.1.gz local-clean: -rm -f ../obj/* $(BIN_DIR)/pd $(BIN_DIR)/$(GUINAME) $(BIN_DIR)/pdsend \ $(BIN_DIR)/pdreceive $(BIN_DIR)/pd-watchdog m_stamp.c -rm -f *~ -(cd ../doc/6.externs; rm -f *.pd_linux) -rm -f makefile.dependencies touch makefile.dependencies chmod 666 makefile.dependencies extra-clean: -rm -f `find ../extra/ -name "*.pd_*"` -rm -f tags clean: extra-clean local-clean distclean: clean rm -rf config.cache config.log config.status makefile tags \ autom4te-*.cache echo all: > makefile echo -e "\t./configure" >> makefile echo -e "\tmake" >> makefile tags: $(SRC) $(GSRC); ctags *.[ch] depend: $(CC) $(INCLUDE) $(CFLAGS) -M $(SRC) > makefile.dependencies uninstall: -rm -r $(INSTDIR)/lib/pd -rm $(INSTDIR)/bin/pd -rm $(INSTDIR)/bin/pdsend -rm $(INSTDIR)/bin/pdreceive -rm $(INSTDIR)/include/m_pd.h -rm $(MANINSTDIR)/man/man1/pd.1.gz -rm $(MANINSTDIR)/man/man1/pdsend.1.gz -rm $(MANINSTDIR)/man/man1/pdreceive.1.gz include makefile.dependencies -- ::: sam :::

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vasp buffer copying / resizing
by Tim Blechmann 27 Jan '04

27 Jan '04

hi all, i'm curious ... is it possible to detach vasp's .copy and .size from the dsp process? and if so, is there a protection, that you don't resize a buffer at a position that is read at the moment of resizing? cheers... Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 -- The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!" Jack Kerouac

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Pd-list January 2004