Pd-list July 2003

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Re: [PD] GEM woes update
by Jeffrey Hildebrand 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

i just checked out the pixvid binaries and the documentation confirms what you just said: Usage: ~~~~~~ Load after GEM when using PD. For example, this is my PD invocation: c:\pd\bin\pd -path c:\pd\gem-0.87;c:\pd\jade -lib Gem;pix_video_ds where pix_video_ds has been installed into c:\pd\jade\ on my system. > On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 09:58 PM, Jeffrey Hildebrand wrote: > > > > > still no go. this is probably my 4th time trying to get this to work in > > windows but it just doesn't want to. the machine i'm on could have > > something to do with it because it's all locked up and i don't have > > admin > > priviledges. > > > > what i learned today is that i don't need to compile on windows > > because i > > can just use the Gem.dll. the problem with that is you have to install > > the > > GEM sources anyway because that's where the tutorials and demo patches > > are > > right? other than that i can't link to the Gem.dll with any of these > > methods i've tried from the Run and Command programs (and yes i put the > > Gem.dll in the bin directory) > > > > \pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -lib /pdforwindows/bin/Gem > > I:\pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -lib I:/pdforwindows/bin/Gem > > uh, > > ...just as a shot in the dark try: > > > \pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -lib \pdforwindows\bin\Gem > > ...seems like you should always use the backwards slash on windoze > (insert obvious joke here) > > l8r, > jamie >

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GEM woes update
by Jeffrey Hildebrand 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

still no go. this is probably my 4th time trying to get this to work in windows but it just doesn't want to. the machine i'm on could have something to do with it because it's all locked up and i don't have admin priviledges. what i learned today is that i don't need to compile on windows because i can just use the Gem.dll. the problem with that is you have to install the GEM sources anyway because that's where the tutorials and demo patches are right? other than that i can't link to the Gem.dll with any of these methods i've tried from the Run and Command programs (and yes i put the Gem.dll in the bin directory) \pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -lib /pdforwindows/bin/Gem I:\pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -lib I:/pdforwindows/bin/Gem pd without the .exe doesn't work. i even copied the folder to a local hard drive and changed stuff and that didn't work. i've tried several things and none of them work. scott

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Re: [PD] Pd and GEM installation woes
by bbogart＠ryerson.ca 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

Hey Scott Compiling Gem is a pain, but you only have to do that on linux! (or if you want to run the CVS versions) but there are pre-compiled binaries for OSX and Windows. Not that easy to find. for gem-87 only windows binaries are available. But you can get OSX binaries from chris clepper's site. As for PD the windows comes per-compiled, as well you can get an easy double-click installer from Adam Lindsay's site. Has someone make a package of all the CVS externals compiled for windows/osx? I think you can get both of these links from the PD webring. Keep hacking/asking, you'll make it happen! Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Scott Hildebrand" <jshildebrand(a)ucdavis.edu> Date: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:18 pm Subject: [PD] Pd and GEM installation woes > > i consider myself pretty technically able. i've only started > VC++ in > windows so that's new territory for me, but i have a few years > experiencein linux programming, just school stuff though (nothing > very deep). > > getting GEM to work in either platform has been fucking hell. i > realize it's a good idea to have every extention to Pd made available > separately, but if I CAN'T GET THIS SHIT TO WORK, you can sure as hell > believe that casual users won't be able to. i think this is all good > software but it's just too hard to set up. i believe this stuff > can go > really far and its user base can get bigger and bigger, but there > needs to > be some ease-of-installation improvements. > > for windows how about having an EXE file that installs everything > like a typical program would? i'm talking about Pd, GEM, all the > extentions like GrIPD, IEMLIB, GGEE, and ZEXY. still make the > individualparts available to install the old way as well... for > purposes unknown and > the obvious one of portability; if you want to run pd on a PDA or > something and definitely don't need other useless stuff. > > for macOS have a same sort of EXE and do the same stuff in > linux via > the typical .compile and .configure stuff. good idea???? YES!!! do > it! i > would except i don't know how. > > your friendly but irritated visionary, > > scott > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >

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Re: [PD] installing GEM ?
by bbogart＠ryerson.ca 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

hello Adrian, the pd.darwin is precompiled, so all you need to do is tell PD about it. on command line: pd -lib [path to gem]/Gem eg: if your Gem.pd_darwin is in the root of your "home" you type: [wherever pd is]/pd -lib ~/Gem you must not specify the .pd_darwin part. If your using the double click installer you should find the .pdrc file (invisible in OSX) and add at the bottom -lib [path to gem] same as above without the pd part. I'm currently doing a private beta of a program that will do all this for you, if your interested in bleeding edge let me know. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: adrian vacca <sc(a)civilrevoltage.com> Date: Friday, July 25, 2003 5:16 pm Subject: [PD] installing GEM ? > hi list, > > i need help with installing gem on osx > i downloaded the g4 version (Gem.pd_darwin) > but i'm not sure what to do next. > (do a ./configure make in terminal or whatever), > i cannot find any docu on this. > many greetings, > > adrian > > > On Wednesday, Jul 9, 2003, at 08:22 Europe/Amsterdam, chris > clepper > wrote: > > >> Hi all GEM & PD users, > >> > >> I have a couple of GEM related questions: > >> > >> > >> Is it so that the gemwin only can be maximized on the primary > display > >> ? > >> > >> If I have my second display on svideo out at 800 600 and send > the > >> message: > >> 'offset -800 0, border 0, dimen 800 600' the gemwin fills my > tvset > >> nicely, > >> but if I set the gemwin at a lower resolution and send a > 'fullscreen > >> 1' > >> instead, the resolution on my primary monitor is changed and > the > >> gemwin > >> ends up there instead. > >> > >> Is there som other way to use different 'render' and 'display' > >> resolutions > >> in GEM ? > > > > What platform are you using? The answers rely on that info. > > > >> Another question Is if the dimen of the gemwin influences the > render>> resolution in video processing with the pix_ objects ? > > > > No, not at all. The scaling of the pix_ objects output via > > pix_texture + geo is done entirely in hardware using OpenGL. > > > > cgc > > > >> > >> All the best / > >> > >> Martin malm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list mailing list > > PD-list(a)iem.at > > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > >

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newbie GEM questions
by lists＠martinmalm.com 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

Hi all GEM & PD users, I have a couple of GEM related questions: Is it so that the gemwin only can be maximized on the primary display ? If I have my second display on svideo out at 800 600 and send the message: 'offset -800 0, border 0, dimen 800 600' the gemwin fills my tvset nicely, but if I set the gemwin at a lower resolution and send a 'fullscreen 1' instead, the resolution on my primary monitor is changed and the gemwin ends up there instead. Is there som other way to use different 'render' and 'display' resolutions in GEM ? Another question Is if the dimen of the gemwin influences the render resolution in video processing with the pix_ objects ? All the best / Martin malm

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compiling GEM on win xp
by lists＠martinmalm.com 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

Hi everyone ! After having enyojed experimenting with PD and GEM for some time I have realized thet I need to learn how to use the CVS and how to compile GEM for my winXP system. I have managed to learn how to use CVS, but when it comes to actually compiling the sources I'm a bit unsure how to set it up. I imported the MS Visual C++ project from the CVS into Dev-C++ (wich i found on sourceforge), but when i try to compile it I get a lot of errors. I have put the GemLibs besides the Gem folder, are there any other files or folder that I need ? If someone please could point me in the right direction on how to do this I'd be so happy ! Cheers / Martin Malm

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[PD]Audio IN??? ADC~
by Bradon Webb 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

I am having a couple problems using PD's adc~ and configuring my soundcard. Using my soundcard which is a basic 2 channel in 2 channel out ess maestro that cam with my laptop, I can ether select mic or line. 1. If I select the line in on the soundcard, I can process the audio fine in PD and send it to the dac~, however a huge drawback is that the incoming sound is also automatically looped to the output of my soundcard unaltered. so I get a mixture of what I have processed in PD and what is the dry signal comming in. 2. If I select the mic in on the soundcard then I will sometimes get a really choppy stuttering input. It sometimes works, but then it seems like the audio crashes and it cannot import audio anymore, and the only way to fix it is to restart PD. can anyone tell me if there is a real time audio input setting that I want to be using with PD or if there is something that I am missing????? I am on a winxp thanks Bradon~ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

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k_vst~ problems
by Daniel Hawthorn 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

Hi list, I have the k_vst~ external up and running on my Debian system but am experiencing some problems related to sending series of rapid note changes. I wired up a k_vst~ to some notein's to create messages to control the vst synth, but when sending lots of note changes, many get dropped, making it nearly impossible to use in a performance setting. Anyone else experience this problem? And, any ideas how I can fix it? Thanks in advance, -Daniel

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windows: DLL files
by Jürgen Hall 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

Hi, i'm quite new to pd but somehow achieved to set up some kind of console, with audio master bus (throw+catch), in order to combine and mix some doc. patches. the hole thing makes use of subpatches and each time i open the main patch, PD tries to open DLL files, with the same name as the subpatches: opening subpatch1.dll failed... opening subpatch2.dll failed... do i have to create these DLLs ? ? thanks ! juergen

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Midi controller problem with PD 0.37
by Brad KLIGERMAN 25 Jul '03

25 Jul '03

I was using an Evolution UC-16 midi controller connected to a USB port with winXP and PD 0.36 without any problems. I started using PD 0.37-test 6 and get the following message when PD loads : >midi input enabled; warning, don't close the DOS window directly! >could not open midi input device number 1: PortMidi: `Invalid device ID' >could not open midi output device number -1: PortMidi: `Invalid device ID' >12 audio buffers with the following pd.bat : >@echo off >cd bin >pd -midiindev 1 -path ... I still have 0.36 loaded, and I verified that the midi controller works fine, but using the same pd.bat, it doesn't work with 0.37. Is there something I'm missing here?? bradKLIGERMAN

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