Pd-list July 2003

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RE: [PD] PD n00b: counter kludge
by Matthew Allen 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

They both do the same thing, I think the second one is a little cleaner and easier to read/figure out what is going on. m. Frank you should really do a how to or design document thing. Your patches are usually really easy to pick up and figure out what is going on. > -----Original Message----- > From: matthijs(a)devdsp.net [mailto:matthijs@devdsp.net] > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:13 AM > To: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > Subject: Re: [PD] PD n00b: counter kludge > > Thanks - don't have time right now to study the difference between the > two versions or to figure out why one is (potentially) better than the > other, but thanks all the same.

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Newbie question: shell object
by lists＠martinmalm.com 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

Hi ! I have heard about something referred to as the 'shell object' a couple of times here on the list. It sounds very interesting, especially the things one could use it for,but I cant really figure out which object that is the 'shell object' in PD ? /martin

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freeverb~ mono/stereo
by David NG McCallum 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

Dear all, I've noticed that the wet output of freeverb~ sounds like the signal's always panned centre, regardless of how the input's panned. Is this a mistake, or the nature of the reverb model? David . . David McCallum . Music wants to be free . http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta .

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connection failure
by portholeaccel 27 Jul '03

27 Jul '03

hello new to list nice to meet you i am getting connection failure all over gem and pd and cant load library anything appreciated thank you on windows_xp depARTURES Vs. arRIVALS _________________________________________________ *************Bullauge Beschleuniger********* --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

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Re: [PD] GEM woes update
by bbogart＠ryerson.ca 27 Jul '03

27 Jul '03

Whoa, I did not know you could use "gem" rather than "Gem" (note Gem is the proper name, not gem) I think in linux you have to be case sensative so I got used to using Gem, I think the same goes for OSX. Load my Libs is on test3 currently, and it's purpose is to manage sets of PD flags stored as batch files (windows) and scripts (linux/osx). Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Fredericks <iamonthebeach(a)hotmail.com> Date: Saturday, July 26, 2003 7:55 pm Subject: Re: [PD] GEM woes update > You got the slashes going the right way! > > I use a batch file to run pd and gem and in it I use > gem > and not > Gem > > The capital G might be a problem... what error message do you > get.. It loads > the dll and the main dll function in direct relation to the file name > > It is easier if you create a batch file with the command > > I:\pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -path I:/pdforwindows/bin/ -lib gem > > afterwards you can easily add more externals like > > I:\pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -path I:/pdforwindows/bin/ -lib gem - > lib zexy > > but if I were you I would move all the external libraries and > objects into > the externs folder and use the following launch command just for > (because > there already are a lot of useful externs in thos folders) > > c:\pd\bin\pd.exe -path c:/pd/externs/ -path I:/pd/extras/ -lib gem > -lib zexy > > > > >still no go. this is probably my 4th time trying to get this to > work in > >windows but it just doesn't want to. the machine i'm on could have > >something to do with it because it's all locked up and i don't > have admin > >priviledges. > > > >what i learned today is that i don't need to compile on windows > because i > >can just use the Gem.dll. the problem with that is you have to > install the > >GEM sources anyway because that's where the tutorials and demo > patches are > >right? other than that i can't link to the Gem.dll with any of these > >methods i've tried from the Run and Command programs (and yes i > put the > >Gem.dll in the bin directory) > > > >\pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -lib /pdforwindows/bin/Gem > >I:\pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -lib I:/pdforwindows/bin/Gem > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! > http://search.msn.fr/worldwide.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >

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Pd .37t6: alt-h in Windows, and MIDI
by David McCallum 27 Jul '03

27 Jul '03

Dear all, Something I noticed after leaping into .37t6: when I press ALT-H for an hslider the "help" menu is expanded. This is pretty annoying. Also, I took Brad Kligerman's serendipitous results and put -listdev before my -mididev flags and lo and behold, .37 now works with MIDI in Windows. But I noticed that even though I have 8 MIDI Yoke devices, which show up with .36, only 7 show up as outputs in .37. I don't plan on using all of them anyway, but still I imagine this shouldn't be happening. David . . David McCallum . Music wants to be free . http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta .

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Re: [PD] GEM woes update
by Thomas Fredericks 27 Jul '03

27 Jul '03

You got the slashes going the right way! I use a batch file to run pd and gem and in it I use gem and not Gem The capital G might be a problem... what error message do you get.. It loads the dll and the main dll function in direct relation to the file name It is easier if you create a batch file with the command I:\pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -path I:/pdforwindows/bin/ -lib gem afterwards you can easily add more externals like I:\pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -path I:/pdforwindows/bin/ -lib gem -lib zexy but if I were you I would move all the external libraries and objects into the externs folder and use the following launch command just for (because there already are a lot of useful externs in thos folders) c:\pd\bin\pd.exe -path c:/pd/externs/ -path I:/pd/extras/ -lib gem -lib zexy >still no go. this is probably my 4th time trying to get this to work in >windows but it just doesn't want to. the machine i'm on could have >something to do with it because it's all locked up and i don't have admin >priviledges. > >what i learned today is that i don't need to compile on windows because i >can just use the Gem.dll. the problem with that is you have to install the >GEM sources anyway because that's where the tutorials and demo patches are >right? other than that i can't link to the Gem.dll with any of these >methods i've tried from the Run and Command programs (and yes i put the >Gem.dll in the bin directory) > >\pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -lib /pdforwindows/bin/Gem >I:\pdforwindows\bin\pd.exe -lib I:/pdforwindows/bin/Gem _________________________________________________________________ MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! http://search.msn.fr/worldwide.asp

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Re: [PD] -outchannels 6 -noadc
by PAGANO,PATRICK RALPH 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

windows -- PAGANO,PATRICK RALPH On Sat Jul 26 14:02:21 EDT 2003, pix <pix(a)test.at> wrote: > linux, windows? > > under linux you need to use alsa, or the patched version of the > oss usb > audio driver which allows >2 channels (last time i checked it > wasn't in > the main kernel yet). > > because of this, i use jack (which has better alsa performance > than pd for > me)... in which case it was just a matter of -outchannels 6 > (after getting > jack compiled, which was less trivial), i didn't test if adc was > working > at the same time, but i didn't have to explicitly disable it. > > pix. > > On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:38:03 -0400 > "shreeswifty" <bigswift(a)ufl.edu> wrote: > >> >> Recently in th elast month or so i recall someone posting an >> example >> commandline that got the 6 channels out working with pd and my >> usb audio >> card by disabling -noadc . I cannot for the life of me find this >> post >> and i have scanned the archives. >> >> DOes someone have the line to get 6 out with an emi 2|6 working? >> >> >> PAt >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list mailing list >> PD-list(a)iem.at >> http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > > -- _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > >

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Pd and GEM installation woes
by J. Scott Hildebrand 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

i consider myself pretty technically able. i've only started VC++ in windows so that's new territory for me, but i have a few years experience in linux programming, just school stuff though (nothing very deep). getting GEM to work in either platform has been fucking hell. i realize it's a good idea to have every extention to Pd made available separately, but if I CAN'T GET THIS SHIT TO WORK, you can sure as hell believe that casual users won't be able to. i think this is all good software but it's just too hard to set up. i believe this stuff can go really far and its user base can get bigger and bigger, but there needs to be some ease-of-installation improvements. for windows how about having an EXE file that installs everything like a typical program would? i'm talking about Pd, GEM, all the extentions like GrIPD, IEMLIB, GGEE, and ZEXY. still make the individual parts available to install the old way as well... for purposes unknown and the obvious one of portability; if you want to run pd on a PDA or something and definitely don't need other useless stuff. for macOS have a same sort of EXE and do the same stuff in linux via the typical .compile and .configure stuff. good idea???? YES!!! do it! i would except i don't know how. your friendly but irritated visionary, scott -------------------------------------------------------------------- "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 --------------------------------------------------------------------

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compiling devel_0_37
by Thomas Grill 26 Jul '03

26 Jul '03

Hi list, making 0.37 without having ALSA installed is not possible in the moment since some portaudio files are dependent on it. In configure.in three ../portaudio/pa_linux_alsa/ files are present which cause the trouble and which should only be included with SOUND_ALSA defined. Since i'm not familiar with autoconf and the likes i can't change it, but maybe someone else can do that? best greetings, Thmas

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