Pd-list December 2003

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GEM problems
by cjm01＠hampshire.edu 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

hello- i've been using pd 0.37 on osx for quite some time now with no major troubles, and had just summoned the confidence to move into the realm of gem, when i encountered the following issues trying to load an example patch: gemwin ... couldn't create gemhead ... couldn't create rotate ... couldn't create color ... couldn't create square ... couldn't create 01.redSquare.pd 1 0 0 0 (message->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 2 0 8 0 (text->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 3 0 0 0 (message->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 4 0 0 0 (message->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 5 0 0 0 (message->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 6 0 11 0 (text->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 7 0 6 1 (gatom->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 8 0 6 0 (text->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 9 0 8 1 (message->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 10 0 8 1 (message->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 17 0 11 0 (message->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 18 0 11 0 (message->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 19 0 11 0 (message->text) connection failed 01.redSquare.pd 20 0 11 0 (message->text) connection failed i was wondering whether anyone might be able to interpret these errors more usefully than i am able to and tell me what might be done in order to get gem up and rendering. oh, and i'm using pd and gem from hans' installer on pure-data.org, if that's any help. thanks, chris madak

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Re: .pdrc on osx:
by sara＠x-i.net 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

Hi, >> since you probably haven't got the text editor vim installed on osx, use >> "pico": I made the .pdrc file in my home directory. [/Users/sara/] I just added the lines which were given by Rob Canning, so it looks like this now: -path /usr/local/lib/pd/pd_pidip_osx/abstractions \ -path /usr/local/lib/pd/extra:/usr/local/lib/pd/pdp_pidip_osx/abstractions \ -lib /usr/local/lib/pd/pdp_pidip_osx/pdp \ >> how do you start up your pd? by typing pd into a terminal shell, or by >> double >> clicking on a pd.command shell script in finder? bc, if you use the second >> version, you can as well modify the pd.command file to load -lib's for you: If i simply type pd in my terminal, then it says command not found. But if i doubleclick on pd.command in my applications, pd starts up; a terminal window appears which says: /applications/Pd.command; exit Welcome to Darwin! [okaras:~]sara% /Applications/Pd.command; exit reading startup file: /Users/sara/.pdrc Audio channel 0 was unmuted by Portaudio! open: No such file or directory No such file or directory open: No such file or directory No such file or directory open: No such file or directory No such file or directory open: No such file or directory No such file or directory open: No such file or directory No such file or directory open: No such file or directory No such file or directory open: No such file or directory No such file or directory open: No such file or directory No such file or directory When i try to open a helpfile: help-pdp_canvas.pd it says: RCNE SendEventToEventTarget (mous Up )failed, -9874 RCNE SendEventToEventTarget (mous Up )failed, -9874 open: /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/pidip/help-pdp_canvas.pd: Permission denied help-pdp_canvas.pd: Permission denied The cursor keeps on going down in the terminal shell, without giving any output. Sara

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audio interfaces
by miha.ciglar1＠guest.arnes.si 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

Hello! thanks for the info. But i read that the Edirol UA - 1000 card that uses usb2, reaches transfer rates of about 480 kbps. On the other side there is the Hammerfall (PCMCA) that goes with only 170 kbps ? Doesnt this info tell everithyng about speed?? or are there also other facts that need to be concidered. ps I use a pentium 3 (900 Mhz) with Win xp. Miha

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by miha.ciglar1＠guest.arnes.si 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

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Audio interfaces
by miha.ciglar1＠guest.arnes.si 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

Hi! I am looking for an Audio interface (for a laptop) with at least 8 analog inputs and outputs. Because I am doing a lot of live electronic stuff it needs to be as fast as possible. What is faster? a usb 2 card or the RME Hammerfall PCMCIA sollution? Can anyone recomend something? Thanks! miha

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PD Installation locked me out of Terminal OS X
by Dan Wilken 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

Hello, I recently installed Pd version 0.36-0 from a binary for OS X. Since installing, I have not been able to run my Terminal without launching PD and Wish. This is frustrating to say the very least. I've checked the preferences for Terminal and under: When creating a new Terminal window: I have selected "Execute the default login shell using /usr/bin/login I've opened this file in Text Edit but it has enough ampersands and no "PD", so I'm reluctant to change it. I substituted the PD.command file with an innocuous shell command, but without the terminal I'm not sure how to turn the execute permission on. What happened? I need my Terminal back. Thanks in advance, Dan

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a question about pidip, and a comment about programming and art
by thewade 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

Hello, As was stated earlier, a pandoras box was opened on the topic of programming and art. This topic is of special concern as I have a bafa and a minor in comp-sci. THere is also a forum for code-art at runme.org. Code is the next art, as it has the power of text and the power of touch. Anyway, enough of the soapbox, and I promise never to use it again... My question is about pidip. Im running linux and pd ontop of jack. It all seems to start up fine - I use the word seems as this is the first time ive used a linux box for multimedia as I have been using a windows machine for pd - but then I get major crashitude from MR. pd! It dies just after pidip loads: PDP: pure data packet PDP: version 0.12.2 /usr/local/src/pidip-0.12.11/pidip.pd_linux: /usr/local/src/pidip-0.12.11/pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: ScaleShortToQuantum /usr/local/src/pidip-0.12.11/pidip: can't load library audio I/O stuck... closing audio What did I do wrong? pd-0.36 Planed-ccrma kernal (sweet package!) gem is loaded, as well as pdp obviously Im using 0.36 as its installed via rpm, and Im trying to keep things installed via rpm's because it makes my life a little easier. I have no problem with compiling though... Thanks for the help, and for the great peice of software! -thewade

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[ot] hard disk recording
by Maximilian Marcoll 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

hi! does anybody know about a free hard disk recording program and a waveform editor for mac os x (panther)? (i tried to compile snd on my mac without any success..., i know that there is something one has to change in the makefile(s) but the changes in the readme didn't really help...) thank you! max =============================================== _______________maximilian marcoll______________ ___________composition | performance___________ http://icem-www.folkwang-hochschule.de/~marcoll ===============================================

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PD "Projector", Executables or similar
by Richard Skelton 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

Hi List, I'm looking for something suitable to use in developing generative audio-visual pieces that I can distribute as CDROMs. At the moment, I'm using Macromedia Director, which does the job, but has rather limited A-V capabilities. I'd also rather not use a piece of proprietary software. Whilst considering other options, such as C++/DirectX, Java and "Processing" (www.Proce55ing.net), I stumbled across PD, and noticed the following comments by Guenter, in a recent thread : > The ultimate goal would be to be able to build your director-like > GUI within pd directly. .. or implement a flashplayer etc .. :) PD/GEM looks like an incredibly flexible and powerful A-V development environment, but am I right in thinking you need both installed and configured on a target machine in order to run a completed patch/abstraction? If so, are there any plans to develop a PD "Projector" or equivalent, so that performances can be played on machines that don't have PD installed? Forgive me if any of the above seems idiotic, but your comments, nevertheless, would be appreciated. Many thanks Richard Skelton ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted herewith is sensitive information intended only for use by the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer.

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Re: [PD] pdp_pidip_OSX
by Yves Degoyon 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

hi, i don't think we recommend to recompile pdp_pidip_osx, there is a binary ( library ) that you should just load with : -lib <path>/pdp. well, you should be able to recompile it somehow, that's right, but it's not really necessary here. cheers, sevy A.Lister wrote: > all the dependencies including imlib is installed with fink. > But the problem occurs during the make of pdp_pidip_osx. > It just seems like it is while pdp_pidip_osx is going through > the objects in imlib (or whatever it is doing) that the make > exits after it has written > > _imlib_text_draw > > in the terminal. > > > sorry for the confusion :) > > > > > > On lÃ¸rdag, des 20, 2003, at 16:43 Europe/Oslo, Yves Degoyon wrote: > > i was speaking of imlib, not of pdp_pidip_osx. > > imlib should be installed with Fink, > is this when the problem occurs? > > good luck, > sevy > > A.Lister wrote: > > hi > > I downloaded the pdp_pidip_OSX.tar.gz from your site, which is the > same as rob suggests. > And all the dependecies have been taken well care of... > > > > > On lÃ¸rdag, des 20, 2003, at 15:47 Europe/Oslo, Yves Degoyon wrote: > > hi, > > you compile it from sources? which archive ? > maybe use the same release as rob.. > ( and don't forget the ./configure --enable-shared ) > > > cheers, > sevy > > Lister Vitakuben wrote: > > Hello list > > I've been trying to install pdp and pidip for OSX following the > instructions from Pedro "No user, No cry" Soler and Rob Canning, > but the make exits when going through imlib. I have tried removing > an reinstalling all the libraries and progs that pdp and pidip are > depending upon, but with no luck. > > This is where the make exits: > > < snip > > _imlib_context_set_font > _imlib_get_text_size > _imlib_load_font > _imlib_text_draw > make: *** [darwin] Error 1 > > Any suggestions? > > -- > A. Lister > > > > -- > A. Lister > > > > -- > A. Lister >

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