Pd-list June 2002

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VST-plugin object - no longer available
by mark 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

It has become apparent to me that primarily because Of time comitments that I am unable to support the vst~ Object. Therefore it is no longer available - if someone Wishes to take over (and provide the support that it requires) Then I will be more than happy to hand it over - I still belive It is a useful object but there are so many different versions Of Pd ,different setups and different VST's that I cannot Support it at present. I will give thought to an unsupported source code only release if There is enough demand. Thankyou for all your interest in this external and total respect To all you guys out there who are managing to run this kind Of project - in particular Miller for PD itself. Cheers Mark _________________________________________ junklight - dark experimental electronics http://www.junklight.com

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RE: [PD]VST-plugin object
by mark 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

I am sorry you haven't been able to get the vst~ external working - >From the emails you sent the problem is with PD finding the external as far as I can tell rather than any problem with the External itself. There aren't any other VST externals that support VST instruments But the plugin~ object does support some VST 1 plugins. Check Pure-data.org I guess or do a google for it. Failing that you will have to do what I did and write your own That works to your satisfaction Mark -----Original Message----- From: Riet Bobbaers [mailto:rietbobbaers@yahoo.com] Sent: 18 June 2002 10:47 To: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at Subject: [PD]VST-plugin object Does anybody know of a PD-object where I can use VST-plugins? Since I can't get Mark's VST-object to work I was wondering if there are any other objects available. Riet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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Using zexy under Windows 98
by Joseph Zitt 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

When I try to use zexy externals under Windows 98, installed from zexy-nt-1_1.zip, I get a raft of errors to the console. Opening the externals, I see that there are no connectors between objects. For example, trying multiplex~ gives the messages: error: multiplex~ : can't load abstraction inside itself multiplex~ ...couldn't create error: multiplex~ : can't load abstraction inside itself multiplex~ ...couldn't create mux~ ...couldn't create multiplex~.pd 1 0 8 0 <text->env~> connection failed multiplex~.pd 3 0 1 0 <sig~>text> connection failed multiplex~.pd 4 0 1 1 <sig~>text> connection failed multiplex~.pd 5 0 1 2 <sig~>text> connection failed multiplex~.pd 6 0 1 4 <sig~>text> connection failed multiplex~.pd 7 0 1 0 <gatom->text> connection failed -- | josephzitt(a)josephzitt.com http://www.josephzitt.com/ | | http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/ http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt/ | | == New book: Surprise Me with Beauty: the Music of Human Systems == | | Comma / Gray Code Silence: the John Cage Discussion List |

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PD on handhelds
by Dupras, Martin 18 Jun '02

18 Jun '02

Has anyone successfully managed to run PD on a handheld? If so, I would be very grateful if you would let me know which handheld and OS you tried, what kind of difficulties you encountered, and other such things. Thanks. - martin

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RE: [PD] PD on handhelds
by mark 18 Jun '02

18 Jun '02

I am currently working on an iPaq as part of our (at work this is ) wireless strategy - building a proof Of concept for my designs. Obviously when I got this lovely bit of kit my thoughts Turned to PD - the bit I am missing is TCL/TK - there is One availble but it doesn't have the bits (libraries/header Files) needed to link it into PD. This is a real bugger 'cos I Believe that the rest of PD would compile for Pocket PC 2002 My new theory is to build a control app that connects to PD via a plugin external - the control app would have knobs, Number boxes etc and just do send messages. As it happens the Interface kit I am writing for the stuff at work will nicely Double up for this job too. Hmm odd that... Anyway far to Busy at the moment but hopefully I will get something out Sometime over the summer. I'm also working on a (non dance oriented) Drum machine based on my monorythm thingy that will hopefully be released for Pocket PC as well as the desktop. This little contraption (iPaq) is crying out for music software. Cheers Mark _________________________________________ junklight - dark experimental electronics http://www.junklight.com -----Original Message----- From: Dupras, Martin [mailto:Martin.Dupras@uwe.ac.uk] Sent: 18 June 2002 17:08 To: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at Subject: [PD] PD on handhelds Has anyone successfully managed to run PD on a handheld? If so, I would be very grateful if you would let me know which handheld and OS you tried, what kind of difficulties you encountered, and other such things. Thanks. - martin

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Re: [PD] Notebook and PD... an advice
by elise 18 Jun '02

18 Jun '02

Dear Claudio, There have bee some quite detailed discussions on the list with regards to this topic. Go here: http://iem.kug.ac.at/mailinglists/pd-list/ and type "laptop" in the search and check "search all paths". You get loads, but a couple of good threads are: Re: [PD] It really works!,,and laptops, from round about December 2001, and Re: [PD] PD on a laptop??, round about September 2001. But check out others as well - just to be sure! ; ) Cheers, Elise. -----Original Message----- From: claudio <c.scozzafava(a)tin.it> To: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> Date: 16 June 2002 16:27 Subject: [PD] Notebook and PD... an advice Hi, I'm using Pd under Linux, and for pratical matter I would like install PD on a notebook. Reading in some forum I've pondered the idea that notebook are not good for audio despite the power in terms of memory and processor. If someone works with a notebook Could help me to choose a model that work well with PD under Linux? Ciao Claudio

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latency results?
by Andrew (Andy) W. Schmeder 18 Jun '02

18 Jun '02

Hi all, I'm trying to fine tune the latency for a pd/realtime setup. The system: Debian/Unstable Intel P4 1.8ghz M-Audio Delta-44 (ice1712 driver) Alsa 0.9 Kernel 2.4.19-pre10 + A. Morton's latest Low-Latency patch echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/lowlatency pd -alsadev hw:0,0 -rt So far PD's best possible latency is 8 fragments (11 millisec. audio buffer). Below this it is completely unable to keep up. Is there room for improvement in this setup? (Replacing the sound device is an option... I need as many channels as possible and latency in the 1-3 ms range). -- Andy

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[PD]VST-plugin object
by Riet Bobbaers 18 Jun '02

18 Jun '02

Does anybody know of a PD-object where I can use VST-plugins? Since I can't get Mark's VST-object to work I was wondering if there are any other objects available. Riet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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RE: [PD] Using zexy under Windows 98
by Matthew Allen 18 Jun '02

18 Jun '02

no it needs to be listed as a -lib argument. the -path just gives PD a bunch of places to look for stuff if it cant find say, a user made abstraction. m. > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Zitt [mailto:jzitt@josephzitt.com] > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 8:52 PM > To: IOhannes zmoelnig > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > Subject: Re: [PD] Using zexy under Windows 98 > > > On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 05:19, IOhannes zmoelnig wrote: > > Joseph Zitt wrote: > > > When I try to use zexy externals under Windows 98, installed from > > > zexy-nt-1_1.zip, I get a raft of errors to the console. > Opening the > > > externals, I see that there are no connectors between objects. > > > > > > > seems, like you do not load the correct version of the external. > > make sure that no older version of the zexy.dll is loaded before. > > a proper install should have overwritten the > pd/externs/zexy.dll file > > (but maybe you are searching other paths and/or have an old > zexy.dll in > > your pd/extra-folder) > > After trying this again, I'm still not getting it to work. > > Do I understand correctly that to get zexy to run under Windows: > > - there must be one and only one copy of the file zexy.dll on the > system, > - that file must be in the pd/externs directory. > - that directory must be listed as an argument to -path in > the pd batch > file. > > > -- > | josephzitt(a)josephzitt.com http://www.josephzitt.com/ | | http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/ http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt/ | | == New book: Surprise Me with Beauty: the Music of Human Systems == | | Comma / Gray Code Silence: the John Cage Discussion List |

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Re: [PD] debian, pd and alsa
by Orm Finnendahl 18 Jun '02

18 Jun '02

> Maybe you didn't load the oss compatibility modules? Could you send > your alsa-modules configuration and the output of "lsmod | grep snd"? That might be it. Here's my output: grisey:/etc/init.d# lsmod | grep snd snd-ali5451 11660 0 snd-pcm 57120 0 [snd-ali5451] snd-timer 11176 0 [snd-pcm] snd-ac97-codec 24804 0 [snd-ali5451] snd 30860 0 [snd-ali5451 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec] soundcore 3556 0 [snd] With this combination, asound plays o.k. and alsamixer works. BTW, in my first mail I didn't realize it used an old pd version installed by Debian (0.34). With the new one (after deinstalling the old one), I get the following error: couldn't open MIDI output device 1 opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s). /dev/dsp (read/write): No such device (now will try write-only...) /dev/dsp (writeonly): No such device error: OSS: SNDCTL_DSP_CHANNELS failed /dev/dsp audio I/O stuck... closing audio The /dev/dsp exists. (About the MIDI: That's not my problem. That's taken care of as soon as I insmod my midi-driver. I'm just concerned with sound i/o). Thanx Frank, Orm

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