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The Wish program will look thru its Frameworks search path to find the frameworks. It something like:
- look Contents/Frameworks
- ~/Library/Frameworks
- /Library/Frameworks
- /System/Library/Frameworks
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Rich E wrote:
Does this wish shell in Contents/MacOS have the Tcl/Tk Frameworks built into it (whether Carbon or Cocoa)?
Its working now, thanks. Nice method, I have one symlinked to the svn repository and one for myself to hack on.
cheers, Rich
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
On Jan 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Rich E wrote:
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
On Jan 17, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Rich E wrote:
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
On Jan 9, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Rich E wrote:
Still in OS X 10.6. I don't have one of these problems with Pd-devel-0.43 (dec 15) nightly build, so it must all be because of the tk/cocoa version that you mention. I'm not sure how to report it a tcl mailing list, as I don't know where the code is that implements these things.
Does it make sense that the arrow keys are detected differently in Tk/Cocoa, so they are just sent to pd's gui C code as spaces?
Not to me... it should be the same, that's why its worth reporting to tcl-mac. You don't need to know the exact code that's causing the problem. I read that list too, so I can fill in the details. I just don't have access to a 10.6 machine these days.
As for the text color issue in the audio settings, you'll have to point me towards what is controlling that. I'll send you a screenshot after this email.
Check out dialog_audio.tcl. Its still mostly the original code, so it can be scary. ;)
Do you know how I can force configure to use Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon?
If you put a version of Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon frameworks into /Library/Frameworks, it should use them over the build in ones. But that means using the Makefile in packages/darwin_app and running "make install". For development, I just rename a nighly build as "Pd-devel.app" then inside the package, remove some guts and symlink it to my pd-gui-rewrite/0.43 sources:
hans@palatschinken.at.or.at:src > ls -l /Applications/Pd-devel.app/Contents/Resources/ total 152 lrwxr-xr-x 1 hans staff 3 2010-01-05 14:27 Scripts -> bin/ -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 47204 2008-08-14 20:03 VolumeIcon.icns -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 545 2008-07-21 13:53 Wish.rsrc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 59 2010-01-05 14:32 bin -> /Users/hans/code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/src/ dr-xr-xr-x 13 hans staff 442 2009-12-15 08:41 doc/ dr-xr-xr-x 180 hans staff 6120 2009-12-15 08:52 extra/ dr-xr-xr-x 6 hans staff 204 2009-12-15 08:41 include/ -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 42741 2008-02-14 18:14 pd-file.icns -r--r--r-- 1 hans staff 37100 2008-02-14 18:14 pd.icns lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 58 2010-01-05 14:31 po -> /Users/hans/code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/po/ dr-xr-xr-x 3 hans staff 102 2009-12-15 08:41 share/ lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 63 2010-01-05 14:31 startup -> /Users/hans/code/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/startup/
I like this way of running the newest sources from within the app bundle, but I can't get it working yet. I had to replace the executable in Contents/MacOS, but then it cannot find pd-gui.tcl (I removed the bin folder in the Resources directory and symlinked it to the pd-gui-rewrite/src/, like you did).
rich
Literally all I did was:
- download nightly Pd-devel build
- cd /path/to/Pd-devel.app/Contents/Resources
- rm -rf bin
- ln -s /path/to/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/src bin
- ln -s /path/to/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/po
- ln -s /path/to/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/startup
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Really. I do this and the executable in the Contents/MacOS folder is still run and not the one in the symlinked directory. Oh well.
Ah, ok, I understand now. The exe in Contents/MacOS is not Pd but the Wish Shell, so you want it to run that. 'pd' resides in Contents/Resources/bin/pd. Pd is two processes: 'pd-gui' (i.e. Wish) and 'pd' (i.e Pd ;)
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Rich
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I'll use the nightly build in the meantime and let you know what comes up.
-rich
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
First off, which platform? Is this still Mac OS X 10.6? If so, 10.6 has a built-in custom version of Tcl/Tk 8.5.7 that uses Cocoa for the back end rather than Carbon. Tcl/Tk 8.6 will only use this Cocoa backend, but will work on Mac OS X 10.5. It would be good to flush out these bugs and report them to the tcl-mac list so that they can get fixed.
One thing to try is using one of the nightly builds, which include Tcl/Tk 8.5.7/Carbon. I think they should work on 10.6: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Rich E wrote:
Hi List, Hans,
I've been using the pd-gui-rewrite-0.43 svn for a couple days now and here are some notes I've taken when finding various bugs (is the better sent to the pd-dev list?):
• In Audio Settings, the text in the drop down menus is hardly visible because it is very light grey
Never seen that, screenshot?
• there is a new menu item called 'apple' with "about pd" and
preferences"
Known issue with the Tk/Cocoa, haven't found a workaround yet.
• editing an object name:
‣ moving with arrows adds a space to the end, but does not move within the object name
Hmm, can't reproduce, Tk/Cocoa issue?
• opening "about pd" gives an error:
‣ Error: can't read "pd_myversion": no such variable" ‣ an't read "pd_myversion": no such variable can't read "pd_myversion": no such variable while executing "regsub -all PD_VERSION $bigstring2 $pd_myversion bigstring3" (procedure "::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext" line 15) invoked from within "::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext "$dirname/$basename"" (".txt" arm line 1) invoked from within "switch -- [string tolower [file extension $basename]] { ".txt" {::pd_menucommands::menu_opentext "$dirname/$basename" } ".c" {::..." (procedure "menu_doc_open" line 4) invoked from within "menu_doc_open doc/1.manual 1.introduction.txt" (menu invoke)
Its not implemented yet... I was hoping to make "About Pd" a pd patch.
I have some time on my hands now that I finished my Master's, and
frankly I think the pd-vanilla GUI is unpleasant, so I could learn tcl/tk and help out, if needed.
That would be great! Your reports have already been helpful. I'm going to be in pretty deep this month till its finished and merged into Miller's 0.43 version. He's been relatively scarse on the lists, but we've been working thru this stuff off-list.
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