On 2014-12-20 22:38, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:
Is the idea to package an entire packaging system with Pd Vanilla?
For me the focus is now to create a sort of versionable, installable package for cyclone*. But it could well apply to much more. A possible structure could consist of several packages; pd-vanilla as core, depending on it a ring of libraries making it an 'almost Max/MSP clone' and a set of 'special-interest' libraries for those that want it.
I am happy to see there is an apt-get of sorts for all essential non-linux platforms. There is still a lot of work to do, but we as pd-community with limited resources don't have to 'build it from scratch'.
*) The hard-core crowd is happy with just a set of objects, but new-users might like some guidance. Apart from that, some inherent versioning is a good thing too.
-Jonathan
Greetings,
Fred Jan
On Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:41 PM, András Murányi muranyia@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Fred Jan Kraan fjkraan@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 2014-12-20 19:09, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 12/18/2014 10:13 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: >> If there is a cross-platform repository system out there that is well-tested and built to be _more_ secure than apt (i.e., defense against replay attacks in the original design), perhaps it could be leveraged. >> Unfortunately I don't know anything about binary repo systems, other than Debian's. >> -Jonathan >> >> On Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:04 PM, Fred Jan Kraan <fjkraan@xs4all.nl> wrote: >> >> >> On 2014-12-18 20:34, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: >>> On 12/18/2014 08:16 PM, Samuel Burt wrote: >>>> 1. Opening a patch with [import cyclone] would automatically download the >>> >>> i *strongly* oppose to anything that automatically connects to the >>> internet and fetches or submits data. >> >> And the Pd-community currently does not have the resources to build >> something that is similar or more advanced than the Debian distribution >> system and preferably be cross platform. > > > so why not use apt? > > i mean, we could build on top of apt to do something "more" cross platform. > Debian (and thus apt) already handles multiple architectures and > "operating systems" (well: kernels), so we just need a few others archs: > - w32-i386 > - w32-amd64 > - osx-i386 > - osx-amd64 > > this would of course mean porting (parts of) apt to w32/osx (and i have > no clue how much work *that* means) Porting apt would indeed solve the Pd-distribution problem, and maybe for more cross-platform packages. For MacOSX, the Fink package is based on Debian tools (http://www.finkproject.org/). So that leaves Windows. >From the distant past I remember Inno Setup is free and usable (http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php). As long as there is no native apt for Windows that could do... Somehow, it looks a bit less abstract now :-). > > fgmrds > IOhannes > Greetings, Fred Janhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/windows-get/ https://chocolatey.org/ http://dev.tranquil.it/wiki/WAPT_-_apt-get_pour_Windows ?
András
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