hi, I never touched any of those pd on OSX mails in the past. but (some) people are starting to give away their old mac computers and so ... I am looking for the "any" object in my pd environment. I have a G3 with OSX 10.4 and tried some different packages. hcs packages 0.39 and 0.38-4 worked fine but the any object, which should be in the iemlib??? cannot be created. So I tried also tigitals package, but that says something like "this version was compiled for another cpu system. and I didn't find any iemlib.pd_darwin files on the iem page to use them with millers 0.39 version. so I went back to hcs installer and wonder if maybe the iemlib is there, but I don't get it loaded or maybe the any object has changed? hmmm. marius.