hik, i fixed the problem with pidip thanks for your help and sara's tutorial... it was the freetype lib that was missing and i use the precompiled object instead off compiling it and miracle it all works and the best is that all the mp3 objects started to work also. but i still have a problem with mp3streamout~ which is all the time in the red whatever quality i set, and sometimes it plays but only short period off the sound so is this normal and the object is not working properly on osx or can i do something to make it works. (mp3streamin~is working fine) bye.