amazing, this makes sense. now I'm just curious to have a look at the code and compare it with the latest version.
thanks for your help :D
cheers,
Mario
On 14/03/18 22:21, Miller Puckette wrote:
Aha! Yes, Dan Wilcox contributed a whole raft of changes to s_midi_alsa.c August 2017. So it looks like we're in the clear after all...
cheers Miller
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:06:10PM +0000, mario buoninfante wrote:
Hi Simon,
yes the message is received and understood by other devices, so at the end of the day it's not a problem, mine is more curiosity :D
btw I've got a little update, after chatting with another Pd user, I figured it out that the problem doesn't occur on Pd 0.48.0 and 0.48.1 . but it does occur on Pd 0.46.1, the version I was using when I discovered this. so my suspect is that something changed in the code. I'll have a look at github. does anyone know anything about that>
cheers, Mario
On 14/03/18 21:49, Simon Iten wrote:
hi there,
i have sent sysex with puredata for some years now, and i never had any problems, even with large chunks. i have used attached abstraction to send sysex, maybe it helps?
midi IS a serial protocol, so it is perfectly valid to send one byte at a time at least over din midi. in fact i am doing that with arduinos all the time. (usb midi is a different beast)
do the “special” midiout noteon and noteoff messages work when a synthmodule or similar is connected?
On 14 Mar 2018, at 21:28, mario buoninfante <mario.buoninfante@gmail.com mailto:mario.buoninfante@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Miller,
yap I'm using ALSA.
btw, I had a look at the source code (I want to clarify I'm not a C programmer :) ) and from what I found in x_midi.c and s_midi.c, it kind of make sense that [midiout] returns 1 byte at time.
it seems to me we're missing a way to detect outgoing sysex messages (maybe having a dedicated object could help), so there's no way to collect a sysex and send it out in one go (ie having an array to return). I apologize for my trivial description of the "problem", but this is what I think is causing this behaviour.
cheers,
Mario
On 13/03/18 04:37, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi Mario -
Perhaps you said this in the previous message which I missed... are you using ALSA MIDI system or OSS?
MIDI support has always been a problem in Pd... largely because I don't have a lot of experience with it.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:04:00AM +0000, mario buoninfante wrote:
Hi,
I ran few more tests on Linux trying to understand what's going on with [midiout] and sysex messages.
I discovered that it's not just about sysex. I'm monitoring MIDI from Pd with /KMidimon /and /GMIDImonitor/, and I noticed that also sending Note On messages with [midiout] seems to be in some way different then sending the same message using [noteout].
when Note On is sent using [midiout], this will spit single bytes that are recognized as single byte sysex messages by the MIDI monitors!!!!!
has anyone ever experienced the same?
cheers,
Mario
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