Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On May 18, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 05:40 -0400, Enrique Erne wrote:
Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 19:50 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> i'm not a developer but i would vote for declare > i.e. [declare -stdlib mrpeach] to packOSC-help.pd > then it would work with pd vanilla too. The declare/namespace/import stuff is still very undefined, so I think some experiementation would be good. I think you should go ahead and try it using what you propose. That will be a good test case. Then we'll figure out what works best.
putting the helppatches besides the objects should fix most of the problems, no? no need for [declare] orgies and such
yo.. it would seem strange having to put [declare]s into help- patches in order to load the the objects, that they are explaining, IMO.
maybe i miss something:
to it seems _not_ strange to have a working help patch. the
declare is documenting how one can use the object-class of the external (one
of the 4, 5... 6 ways).there are only so many in pd-extended, there aren't that many in pd-vanilla ( i can think of [declare] and pd-settings file only).
or do you think a user should configure the plist/pdrc/registry first and restart Pd before he can use the documentation/helpfile?
i think, as IOhannes said, that it would make sense to put classes (libraries, abstractions, single-object files) and their help-files at the same place. i don't see a benefit in having to tell a help-file where to find the class.
Yeah, that's the idea of libdirs. It just needs to be implemented
fully. It's pretty close.
I have all my help files in the same place as the source code in the svn repository but they end up separated in pd-extended (the binaries go to extra/mrpeach and the help files are in doc/5.reference/mrpeach). As has already been remarked, I can instantiate for example [mrpeach/tcpclient] but not [tcpclient] but in either case the help file isn't found and if I open it manually it won't make [tcpclient] either. So I'm just wondering what I can do about that... If I put [mrpeach/tcpclient] in the help file it will work but it doesn't do anything to make the help file findable. Is there some make file I need to edit or does the libdir thing fix this?
Martin