hm .. i think it's not appropriate to compare pd to programmng languges we do call it a languge, but it's rather more corect to call it like and visual engeneering environment whch hase a set of object or something like that, if you could at least compile them into some sort of binaries - that would be a bit more comparable ..and pd is not a virtual machine either .. may be it is in some way, but all these VM thing is inapropriate anyway, that way you are putting it in the row with Java and dot.net ..and that is not were ost of us wanna be .. you can put pd (max and perhaps reactor) into the row with LABVIEW and Simulink(mayb), and those are rather engenering environmnts then languages as such, i think the langueges should be rather limited to those you code with in a tet editor..
anyhow these disscussions are inappropriate cause they don't make any difference - i just wanted to give my poiint, as Mathieu said about [demux] .. that leads to flae wars like between tclers and lispers ..but to me both are actually quite simpatic ;)) and i can see my self coding in both one day ..
and once again - i don't see them programmers using software like pd or max or labview - those are more for engeneers yeah some people are proper engeneers and progammers at the same time, but they are not the majority.. if we all where great at both things everything be working much better and much moreusable perhaps .. ;) On 25/03/2009, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Chris McCormick wrote:
IIRC, one of their complaints from last year was that our application had
too many parts. Next time we should pick just one or two specific tasks and go with them. Maybe with a community vote or whatever. Also, I hate to be cynical, but I can't see any way even remotely in which Google could use Pd to make a profit. ;) Thanks for your huge effort anyway, Hans and Georg.
It's not just that, it's that Pd is still relatively non-mainstream. I can imagine plenty (or even most) of programmers being allergic to Pd and thinking it's messy, difficult to program with, and generally an exercise in contorsion. I mean, what do you do with a language that has no builtin [demux] (that's called an if-else anywhere else), in which hot-vs-cold is troublesome (else [expr] wouldn't be *so* attractive), etc.; if programmers that don't use pd had a better opinion of pd, some things like this could have more of a chance. That's when supposing Google is trying to stay neutral and not selecting for profit. Else it's an ever harder game, I suppose.
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