On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 09:46 -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Mon, 9/13/10, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] Hi, new user. Question about max/msp and PD To: "Frank Barknecht" fbar@footils.org Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 5:19 PM On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Oh, and instead of [transport] just use a metro with a
counter sending to some global receiver. Read from this with [select] to get a kind of Max-5's [timepoint] clone. See, there's no magic behind these new Max 5 features, they just unified a bit what all Max/Pd users do anyway in their patches.
It's also that it's more marketable if they add rather trivial features just so that they can say «Max 5 has more features about time scale !». It's easier than to explain to them that Max doesn't need those features.
Better object documentation in Pd is a trivial feature in this sense-- it's easier for you to spend your time documenting GF objects than to explain how to read the source code. (See, there's no magic behind those GF objects!)
Also, it's more marketable if Max has an object like [textedit] where the user can type multi-line text into a box. It's easier than picking through the Toxy graveyard and learning that you can't send messages to the widget unless its containing canvas is visible, then trying to work with [entry] and having the data you typed in the box disappear because you minimized the window. Then realizing that the whole reason you're looking for an object that corresponds to [textedit] is because you can't resize message boxes (and they don't appear on a gop canvas).
-Jonathan
You could try tkwidgets/text. I really should finish that library. Its close to done, and it'll probably a suite of nice GUI objects, including something like textedit.
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