[initbang] also helps with dynamic patching of [inlet]/[outlet], preserving connections in the parent patch. [loadbang] won't do this (last I checked anyway).
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list < pd-list@lists.iem.at> wrote:
There's a startup flag -noloadbang.
-Jonathan
On Monday, January 11, 2016 8:57 AM, Liam Goodacre liamg_uw@hotmail.com wrote:
I'm more interested in stopping the loadbang than starting it. If you have a patch that dynamically creates itself (or worse deletes itself) when loaded, it is very useful to be able to inspect the patch without the the process starting. Initbang provides this because it bangs only when the patch is loaded as an abstraction, not when the patch is opened.
Message: 3 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:41:41 +0100 From: Jack jack@rybn.org To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla Message-ID: 56936AC5.6030301@rybn.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hello,
For dynamic patching, you can :
- import your abstraction in a subpatch
- send the message 'loadbang' to your subpatch
=> all your abstractions with the object 'loadbang' will send a bang when the message 'loadbang' will be send. ++
Jack
Le 11/01/2016 04:27, Liam Goodacre a écrit :
So no chance of getting them in Vanilla then? That's annoying, as they're both really useful objects. I particularly like [initbang] because it bangs only when the patch is loaded as an abstraction, not when it is opened. This is really useful for dynamic patching.
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:31:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com To: Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com, "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla Message-ID: 355667468.2920260.1452432696797.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
They are also in Pd-l2ork.
On Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:36 AM, Roman Haefeli
reduzent@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 09:52 +0000, Liam Goodacre wrote:
Which libraries are [closebang] and [initbang] in? They don't seem
to
load in Vanilla and I can't find the relevant information in the helpfiles so that I can use [declare].
I'm not totally sure, but I believe those are part of the Pd-extended core and cannot be implemented as externals. That's why you can't find them anywhere but in Pd-extended.
Roman
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