Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Other things I find excessively annoying is the inability to wrap objectbox/commentbox text properly.
I like, how Max/MSP does it, it lets you resize everything with the mouse.
I said I'd like abstractions that are included inside .pd files as if they were subpatchers, but otherwise work like abstractions. It would encourage aggressive abstraction; otherwise it is tempting to copypaste subpatchers in order to keep everything in one file.
I'd disagree here. Subpatches and abstractions (in Pd) are fundamentally different. Abstractions are for, well, abstraction as a concept, with local variables, creation arguments and all that, but subpatches have two other goals. One is simply to hide things from view (or let only a GUI be visible via GOP), the other is creating named space inside a patch, that can be e.g. a target for self-modifying messages or struct data. As abstractions can include subpatches and as they pass on the graph-on-parent features, subpatch functionality is available there as well. So if one needs aggressive abstraction, and everyone needs that sooner or later, one should of course use abstractions for that and not subpatches. Having abstractions inside a patch is not aggressive abstraction but only leads to many copies of functionality, that then isn't abstracted (inside a patch file).
ciao
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