Weirder and weirder. Pd-ext still cannot load 1.list.pd_linux. I get
error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup library'!
but :
~$ ls /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/ | grep list 1.list.pd_linux
So i deinstalled the last auto-build of Pd-extended for ubuntu 12.10 x64 :
~$ sudo dpkg --purge pd-extended (Lecture de la base de données... 303007 fichiers et répertoires déjà installés.) Suppression de pd-extended ... Purge des fichiers de configuration de pd-extended ... dpkg : avertissement : while removing pd-extended, directory '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra' not empty so not removed Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « hicolor-icon-theme »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.index... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « desktop-file-utils »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »...
in the extra directory are ANN library and the missing earplug_data.txt. It shouldn't interfere with the rest.
Then i removed preferences backups i did in my /home/me : .pdextended, .pdextended~, .pdextended.thisoneactuallyworks, etc :)
Then, downloaded Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-quantal-amd64.deb from http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ and
~$ sudo dpkg -i Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-quantal-amd64.deb Sélection du paquet pd-extended précédemment désélectionné. (Lecture de la base de données... 295934 fichiers et répertoires déjà installés.) Dépaquetage de pd-extended (à partir de .../Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-quantal-amd64.deb) ... Paramétrage de pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) ... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »... Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.index... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « desktop-file-utils »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »... Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « hicolor-icon-theme »...
and finally
:~$ pd-extended -stderr -verbose
input channels = 0, output channels = 0
Pd-0.43.4 ("extended") compiled 09:20:08 Jan 20 2013
port 5400
TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-extended/lib/tcl/library"
TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-extended/lib/tk/library" wish8.5
"/usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl//pd-gui.tcl" 5400
priority 6 scheduling enabled.
Waiting for connection request...
priority 8 scheduling enabled.
/usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/pd-watchdog
... connected
opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s).
input channels = 0, output channels = 0
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading
configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
verbose(5): Using /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup as startup.
verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/0.libdir.pd_linux
tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/libdir/libdir.l_ia64 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/libdir/libdir.pd_linux and succeeded
verbose(3): libdir loader 1.9
verbose(3): compiled on Jan 20 2013 at 09:23:51
verbose(3): compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended
verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux
tried ./Lp.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/Lp.l_ia64 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/Lp.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Lp.l_ia64 and failed
tried ./Lp.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/Lp.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/Lp.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Lp.pd_linux and failed
tried ./Lp/Lp.l_ia64 and failed
tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/Lp/Lp.l_ia64 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/Lp/Lp.l_ia64 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Lp/Lp.l_ia64 and failed
tried ./Lp/Lp.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/Lp/Lp.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/Lp/Lp.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Lp/Lp.pd_linux and failed
tried -meta.pd and failed
error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup
library'!
verbose(4): Loading extra in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/extra tried ./extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried ./extra.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/extra.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed tried ./extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed tried ./extra/extra.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed tried ./extra/extra-meta.pd and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/extra/extra-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra/extra-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/extra-meta.pd and succeeded verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'extra' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra' verbose(4): Loading pdlua in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/pdlua tried ./pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried ./pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried ./pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed tried ./pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and succeeded watchdog: signaling pd... verbose(3): pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on verbose(3): lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaximus@goto10.org verbose(3): pdlua: compiled for pd-0.43 on Jan 20 2013 09:23:51 verbose(4): Loading tclpd in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/tclpd tried ./tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried ./tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried ./tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed tried ./tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and succeeded verbose(3): tclpd loader v0.3.0 verbose(3): tclpd: trying to load /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.tcl... verbose(3): tclpd: loaded /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.tcl verbose(4): Loading vanilla in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/vanilla tried ./vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried ./vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried ./vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed tried ./vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed tried ./vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and succeeded verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass path verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'vanilla' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla'
If i try to open a new patch and create and [list], it has only one inlet.
then i restart pd-ext, and If i try to open a new patch and [import list], i get
tried /home/batinste/list.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/list.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/list.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/list.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/list.l_ia64 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/list.l_ia64 and failed tried /home/batinste/list.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/list.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/list.pd_linux and succeeded verbose(3): [import] loaded library: 'list'
Then i try to create a [list], it has 2 inlets.
my .pdextended :
audioapi: 2 noaudioin: True noaudioout: True audiobuf: 50 rate: 44100 callback: 0 blocksize: 64 nomidiin: True nomidiout: True npath: 0 standardpath: 1 verbose: 1 nloadlib: 0 defeatrt: 0 flags:
my /usr/lib/pd-extended/default.pdextended :
audioapi: 1 standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 defeatrt: 0 flags: loadlib1: Gem loadlib2: cyclone loadlib3: zexy loadlib4: creb loadlib5: cxc loadlib6: iemlib loadlib7: list-abs loadlib8: mapping loadlib9: markex loadlib10: maxlib loadlib11: mjlib loadlib12: motex loadlib13: oscx loadlib14: pddp loadlib15: pdogg loadlib16: pmpd loadlib17: sigpack loadlib18: smlib loadlib19: unauthorized loadlib20: pan loadlib21: hcs loadlib22: jmmmp loadlib23: ext13 loadlib24: ggee loadlib25: iem_anything loadlib26: ekext loadlib27: flatgui loadlib28: chaos loadlib29: pdp nloadlib: 29 path1: /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType npath: 1
if it's a bug, i'll happily file it.
On 21/01/2013 02:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:52 PM, batinste wrote:
On 20/01/2013 21:02, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On 01/20/2013 06:36 AM, batinste wrote:
I was intrigued by this [$@< bug (mainly because i didn't knew about this $@ thingy), so i decided to give it a try. Attached is my test patch. It crashes on my ubuntu 12.10 64bits, Pd-l2ork version 20130111 compiled 13:18:07 Jan 11 2013, way before reaching 1000 args. I launch it in my terminal with :
~$ pd-l2ork test-dollar-at.pd
All i have to do is continuously move my mouse over the patch while it's running, and it will crash around 100 args. You can also try to play with the vslider, it will crash. OR (curiously), it won't crash when moving the mouse, but going in and out of edit mode or saving will make it crash...
On a side note, look at the patch cord going out of the vslider : it looks weird to me, like attached a few pixels under the vslider, not directly connected to it.
That's worth a bug report! It worked for me: I left it alone for a while and it went to 24817, then once I clicked in the patch, it crashed instantly. Batinste, could you file a bug report and include your patch?
ok !
Ok now, the fun part : When i open this patch with pd-extended (Pd-0.43.4 ("extended-20130118") compiled 09:30:52 Jan 18 2013), [list] only has one inlet (it should have 2, given that it's supposed to behave like [list append]) and when i want to see [list]'s help file, pd-ext opens bang's help file... When i open the same patch with pd-l2ork, the lists do have 2 inlets. Oh, and pd-extended happened to display lists with their 2 inlets, but i can't reproduce this reliably. I tried to open the patch with -noprefs (to ensure that i didn't have a forgotten [list] abstraction somewhere) same issue.
Am i cursed or something ?
I've never seen the [list] with the single inlet bug. Can you send me a patch to reproduce it? I think that would happen if you run 'pd-extended -nostartup' which will prevent the list lib from being automatically loaded at startup.
-noprefs won't disable loading from ~/pd-externals or /usr/local/lib/pd-externals since that's hard coded in Pd.
.hc
oops my bad, i did not see this : error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup library'! It was with the patch i attached earlier.
Where you able to fix that error? That file is definitely included in the packages that I've tried.
.hc
On 20/01/2013 07:35, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: Ivica Ico Bukvic ico@vt.edu To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancsika@yahoo.com; 'Hans-Christoph Steiner' hans@at.or.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:21 PM Subject: RE: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
> > Why not simply use pd-l2ork? > > I do, but possible reasons why someone might not use Pd-l2ork: > * no binary for windows > * no binary for OSX On the flip-side pd-l2ork provides a solid, bug-free environment on Linux and looks a lot more contemporary than the aged default tk iteration. In other words, it is a targeted Linux distribution of pd (something that can be easily lost in a cross-platform effort with inadequate developer support, as I am sure Hans can attest to). At this point I would go as far as challenge you to find something that does not work or exhibits a buggy behavior
$@ in msg box probably still crashes when incoming args > 1000 (same with pd-extended)
-Jonathan
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