On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:44:02 -0500 (EST) Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Andy Farnell wrote:
principles. Without it the slogan "The diagram is the program" fails,
When I came up with that slogan, I wasn't thinking about portability nor functional equivalence, and I still don't see how they are related.
They are related above in that they were both goals of ZenGarden.
« The diagram is the program » only meant that unlike other dataflow
It is the word "only" here that puzzles me Mathieu. Please don't undervalue that slogan (and I apologise if I misattributed it), it is astute if not profound to recognise a one to one correspondence between the image and the logic. In interpreting it further one might say "The diagram is the sound", at least that has been my hope for what is to be taken as an appeal to a visual markup for sound in "Designing Sound" *. So far it seems to have worked out well.
*(Of course some data elements do get hidden, initial states maybe..)
and one cannot use Pd to write books, teach or otherwise share dataflow programs in a purely visual way.
I'm following even less...
Not sure how to help, because not sure where you fell off there. Seems obvious to me that where a picture captures a sound in its entirety it is a powerful pedagogical device. By "purely" I meant sole/only way.
The commercial advantages too, as the RjDj project benefited from and upheld, are ease of maintenance and widespread compatibility across diverse hardware.
Is RjDj using ZenGarden, or LibPd, or both ?
Actually neither right now, tis Miller Vanilla with a little extra goodness by Amaury Hazan and Paul Brossier to make it work on those nasty iThings. Though what we call RjDj as a product rather than software base is now in its adolescence and may assume new forms with ZenGarden and/or LibPd and/or other frameworks AFAIK. You need to ask Martin Roth who is now in the captains seat for technology there.
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