On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 19:06 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 17:01 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Me, too. Debian rules. Other than that pure:dyne rules as well.
i agree, though ubuntu is also a debian derivative, but sometimes much easier to use than debian and from my experience comes with better maintained repos. as a beginner, i'd still vote for ubuntu.
Most of the packages in Ubuntu come directly from Debian. When I was running Ubuntu on my laptop, I found, that I wasn't using the stuff, that's not in Debian, at all, so I reverted this system from Ubuntu to Debian again. OTOH packages from Ubuntu often flow back to Debian. In the end, it's a matter of taste.
i don't want to be an ass and please don't get me wrong, when i hook into it again. i fully agree with you. i started doing linux with debian, too. though in the end, all problems i had turned out to be manageable (and based on my lack of knowledge), i wish i had started with ubuntu first retrospectively, just because you have to make less decisions in order to get a working box, that 'just works' in everyday life. i dare say, that ubuntu is the most easy os to install at all, not only the easiest linux. when starting with linux, i had to realize that i hardly know anything about computers. i didn't even know, what a window manager is (least of all, that also windows uses a window manager, but the fact that windows tries to hide essential stuff from the user, so that he/she stays unaware about computers is anothe story) and that i was supposed to choose and install one, if i want to have a graphical interface. quite many steps were involved, until i had a running pd. i believe, in ubuntu much lesser steps are needed until pd runs. for a sligthly more advanced user, many steps seem to be obvious and are done fast, but for an innocent, naked, virgin noob (sorry for the strange wording), like i was two and a half years ago, each step can be a real pain. of course, at the end you don't have more or less possibilities in one or the other.
just my 4cents (now, i'm broke :-)
roman
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