On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote:
With Flash you copy using : command-c you paste in the center of your doc using : command-v you paste in place using : command-shift-v I like the command-d under Pd to duplicate because it is easy to align using shift-arrow keys. ++
It sounds like these are pretty standard across Adobe's products, as these sound like all the keyboard command used in all their other graphics products...
Mike
Jack
Le 1 sept. 08 à 13:17, Miller Puckette a écrit :
Another possibility would be to use command-shift-paste to paste and immediately go into the "stick" state. I think I might have to try a few different ways to see which is most natural.
M
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 01:09:49PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote:
Right, control-D should probably stay as it is, but separately copying and pasting migt want to do something "smarter".
What about this idea/specification for a possible smart placement:
user presses Ctl-C and copies objects from coordinates (xc,yc)
user presses Ctl-V, mouse is at (xm, ym)
Objects get pasted at position: (xc, yc) - the original
coordinates - but they don't get "anchored" yet.
Now comes the new part:
4.1 a) If user moves the mouse now, the objects move to the mouse coordinates (xm, ym) and they "stick" to the mouse from that point on, until the next click.
4.1 b) Alternatively one could enter the "sticky" phase only if the user clicks the mouse, i.e. as soon as the user after step 3) clicks into the canvas, the objects move to the mouse position and stay selected for mouse movement until the button is released at which point the objects are anchored and possibly deselected. Deselecting could also require a second click. I like b) better than a): it contains less surprises.
4.2) This alternate path is taken, if the user doesn't use the mouse, but the cursor keys instead after step 3): The objects move relative to their new position at (xc, yc). They are still selected. Mouse movements don't affect their position anymore, mouse clicks will deselect the objects. That's basically the old, non-smart placement, which has its uses, too.
THe current strategy for figuring out which object you clicked on is that, if more tan one object is selected, Pd prefers to drag an already- selected one; this is much better than whatever I had going before.
Yes, that's good.
Ciao
Frank
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