Re: [PD] cartopol~ and poltocar~

-- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Associate Professor Computer Music ICAT Senior Fellow Director -- DISIS, L2Ork Virginia Tech School of Performing Arts – 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico@vt.edu www.performingarts.vt.edu disis.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu Ico.bukvic.net On Oct 17, 2015 12:42 AM, "Jonathan Wilkes" jancsika@yahoo.com wrote: > > Hi Ivica, > > When we discussed the threading feature before, I advocated against it > since > it breaks determinism. > > However, the Max/MSP documentation (as well as the outlet interface > itself) > suggests that Max's implementation is threaded, too. Why else would you > need a bang to signal when it has finished reading the file, for example? > > Can someone test how it works in practice in Max? > > I'm in favor of the default behavior for the sake of > backwards-compatibility within > Pd. But if Max is actually threading the reads/writes, that would make > this an > important general feature for Max compatibility. > > -Jonathan > > > > > On Friday, October 16, 2015 11:50 PM, Ivica Bukvic ico@vt.edu wrote: > > > cool = coll > -- > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > Associate Professor > Computer Music > ICAT Senior Fellow > Director -- DISIS, L2Ork > Virginia Tech > School of Performing Arts – 0141 > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540) 231-6139 > ico@vt.edu > www.performingarts.vt.edu > disis.icat.vt.edu > l2ork.icat.vt.edu > Ico.bukvic.net http://ico.bukvic.net/ > On Oct 16, 2015 11:48 PM, "Ivica Bukvic" ico@vt.edu wrote: > > I am sure this has been covered on this list before--if it is not too much > of a trouble where can one get the new version of cyclone? > Also, there are some improvements on pd-l2ork side of things that I've > implemented that may detract from Max behavior but also offers other > benefits. For instance, coll object can be threaded and as such allows > loading of large files without dropping samples, albeit at the expense of > determinacy, so one in these cases must rely on outputting done loading > bang signal before working with the cool object. This option is fully > backwards compatible and the default behavior is non-threaded. It would be > great if we could have those merged so that we don't have to maintain two > separate versions of the cyclone library. > Best, > -- > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > Associate Professor > Computer Music > ICAT Senior Fellow > Director -- DISIS, L2Ork > Virginia Tech > School of Performing Arts – 0141 > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540) 231-6139 > ico@vt.edu > www.performingarts.vt.edu > disis.icat.vt.edu > l2ork.icat.vt.edu > Ico.bukvic.net http://ico.bukvic.net/ > this has been corrected in the new cyclone library > > actually, both cartopol~ and poltocar~ were "wrong" in the same way, but > for extended 0.42 only poltocar~ was corrected, this incomplete fix ended > up ruining spectral processing that was actually working before that. > > get the new cyclone, many objects are being corrected > > cheers > > 2015-10-16 18:14 GMT-03:00 Gilberto Agostinho via Pd-list < > pd-list@lists.iem.at>: > > Just a little update: the problem is with [cartopol~], its rightmost > outlet is outputting the correct value multiplied by -1. > > > On 16/10/15 22:55, Gilberto Agostinho wrote: > > Hello, > > I believe I found a bug with the objects [cartopol~] and [poltocar~]. > Basically, if I would connect both outlets of [cartopol~] to the inlets of > [poltocar~], I would expect to receive the same values as I would input. > The problem is that the output of the second outlet of [poltocar~] is > multiplied by -1! I tested this with both Pd 0.46.5 and pd-extended 0.43.4 > (and this bug isn't present in Pd-l2Ork). > > Here is an image of the problem: > http://s1.postimg.org/bs79w4d5b/Screenshot_from_2015_10_16_22_50_23.png > > Is this a known bug? > > Cheers, > Gilberto > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > >