On Jun 19, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Georg Holzmann wrote:
Hallo!
But as I understood e.g. this [1] separating packages of Pd and externals/abstractions is something, Hans did rather not want to deal with (at least at that time), so someone else needs to do it.
[1] http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-04/011410.html
Yes, as I said (or at least that was what I wanted to say).
I think the problem with the pd community is that everyone just
says how he/she would like to have the distribution and is always complaining - but actually only Hans is doing the main work (with some very small contribution as also by myself).I personally think that the pd-extended project is one of the most important things in the pd-community, if not the most important and I cannot understand why people are not able to work with each other and not always against each other. Especially developers are only complaining ...
It is not enough to always say "I want the build system like this"
or "I don't like the current philosophy" - we heard this now many many times on the list and of course some of the criticism is also valid - there really need to be also contributions from other people to get this project working ...LG Georg
PS: I was really fascinated how cooperation can work in other open source communities, but here (in PD world) I simply don't see this
and I don't understand why.
This is a very good criticism of the situation, and I know have been
guilty of this myself as well. I have tried to then stop giving
unproductive criticism and start spending that time fixing things
instead, i.e. less time emailing, more time learning the code and
coding.
.hc
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